[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

2009-11-14 Thread Mark Romero

Reuven, here's the answer to your question, put public, in the hopes that 
someone may learn something.

Ron Reinhold would sell them whenever he had a certain number put aside. And he 
ALWAYS had a waiting line, big time. i got a couple of them one time and one 
time only. It was a tricky kinna deal.cause you had to call him, to make 
sure you were not gonna be forget.but as everybody who ever dealt with Ron 
knows.once you got him on the phone.you could not get him 
off the phone. He's one of those people who will keep talkin' til you hang up. 
LMAO.course he is always so interesting to talk toyou really 
don't mindbut three hours later you may have had something you hadda 
do, lmao. i only started buying/collecting/whatever, blind eye hooks about 6 
years ago, and Ron sold out to Ronn (Lucas Sr.), but 4 years ago. So the Master 
Ron Reinhold was outta the picture not that long after i got into it. Ronn 
Lucas went and spent time with Ron Rienhold at his house in Michigan, (Lucas 
lives in Oregon) and learned from the Master himself. Ron taught Ronn 
everything he could over a few weeks i think it was.and Ronn bought 
everything Ronn had, EXCEPT his antique hook collection. For a while the 
antigue collection was up for sale in it's entirety for $10K.but inevitably 
it got sold off peace meal to a whole lotta different people. i got to see the 
entire thing when Ronn brought it with him to show us in Cleveland at the 
Atlantic Salmon Fly Tying/Steelhead Fly Fishing Symposium that was held there 
bout 4 times over the course of bout a 6 years period. They've never held it 
again since that year i went in 2004. It happend a couple years in a row and 
then a couple more times with time in between times.it was Cool. A half 
dozen or so, of the best in the world would come and teach and you took 
classes. And there was a dinner and an auctionhehehehehehe. It was 
at the Natural History Museum in Cleveland. 

As far as i know.all the so-called rejects are in the hands of tyers at 
this point in time.and i would think that they have all been dressed by 
now. Since they were inexpensive, i'm sure they've all been used up. "Most" 
serious (Atlantic) Salmon fly tyers go thru a process of "chopping' their flies 
while they get to a certain level.in other words reusing hooks over and 
over again, to save money until they feel that they can consistantly dress a 
fly to the point where they no longer need to just simply "practice." Or until 
they can afford hooks in numbers. And there are those very highly qualified 
Salmon fly tyes who never do really get into using the best hooks. Those are 
rare though, and i would believe that its just cause they're CHEAP! LMAO..

Personally i never chop a fly.i mean i havebut that was 
when it was just such a piece of crap when it was finished...blah blah 
blah...it's only happen less times than i could count on one hand. Not that 
MOST of my flies aren't horrible in my eyes...they are.but i 
just don't believe in choppin' flies OR being cheap, lol. A fly is a 
performancelive with itDEAL.."get over it." 
.You dig?
 
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:34:48 +1100
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: markflie...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it
> 
> Hi Mark:
> 
> Just out of curiousity, you mentioned that some hooks were once sold off 
> for $5 (rejects) for a couple of years. What happens with these hooks 
> now? Is it possible to access these hooks through someone, or are they 
> just labelled differently now?
> 
> Reuven
> 
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta 
> > done it...lmao. But i just couldn't help 
> > myself.lol. i just sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the 
> > Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly 
> > long shank.
> > i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back 
> > on May 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, 
> > (which is actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for 
> > $40. He was asking $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which 
> > never happened) to make up the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble 
> > P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 
> > 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i can't believe 
> > how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on ebay 
> > right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not 
> > Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals 
> > because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between 
> > them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he 
> > could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, 
> 

[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

2009-11-13 Thread Mark Romero

never spent that much for a single hook before.i gotta be frickin' 
nuts.but what the hell...it's not about the money when you 
tye on somethin' that beautiful...they actually DO inspire when you 
tye on them..not that i'm really worthy of thembut 
like i said, what the hell...somebody gotta do it, lmao. 
 
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:16:23 +
> From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
> 
> 
> omg i cant believe that you just did that wow lol but like you said if you 
> snooze you loose lol ha ha ha wow cant wait to see what you tie on that lol 
> hope all is well 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Romero" 
> To: "virtual fly box" 
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
> 
> old saying my Pal Rick Richardson (Walid, after he got religion, lmao) a 
> door-man at the Keystone Korner in S.F. WAY back in the days.(70's) use 
> to say. "It be "COLD" when the Jones come down on ya." rotflmao... 
>   
> 
> From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it 
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:58 -0800 
> 
> Mark, 
> Yep! You have the "Hook Monkey" and your "Jones" is BAD! 
> 
> May your GOD be your fishing partner.   
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> From: markflie...@hotmail.com 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it 
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700 
> 
> i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done 
> it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself. lol. i just 
> sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's 
> bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. 
> i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 
> 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is 
> actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking 
> $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up 
> the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his 
> $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's 
> a Gold Lable. i can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. 
> He's got 4 more on ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all 
> Traditionals, not Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as 
> traditionals because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca 
> between them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he 
> could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is 
> why they are sometimes refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a 
> number of years), what were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those 
> were beautiful. Seems bout every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to 
> where the Gold Lables (Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. 
> You'd think the dang things were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right 
> now is an Emerald Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. 
> And there's also a Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, 
> lmao. Who'da ever thunk it. But the dang things are just so 
> beautiful.it's what Doc Schwiebert was talkin' 
> bout.."Beauty." . 
> 
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[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

2009-11-13 Thread mystikalraven

omg i cant believe that you just did that wow lol but like you said if you 
snooze you loose lol ha ha ha wow cant wait to see what you tie on that lol 
hope all is well 
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From: "Mark Romero" 
To: "virtual fly box" 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

old saying my Pal Rick Richardson (Walid, after he got religion, lmao) a 
door-man at the Keystone Korner in S.F. WAY back in the days.(70's) use 
to say. "It be "COLD" when the Jones come down on ya." rotflmao... 
  

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Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it 
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:58 -0800 

Mark, 
Yep! You have the "Hook Monkey" and your "Jones" is BAD! 

May your GOD be your fishing partner.   
  






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Subject: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it 
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700 

i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done 
it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself. lol. i just 
sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. 
That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. 
i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 
1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually 
the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i 
was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. 
So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 
i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i 
can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on 
ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not 
Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he 
considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the 
Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions 
always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes 
refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what 
were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout 
every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables 
(Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things 
were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald 
Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a 
Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk 
it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc 
Schwiebert was talkin' bout.."Beauty." . 


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[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

2009-11-13 Thread Mark Romero

old saying my Pal Rick Richardson (Walid, after he got religion, lmao) a 
door-man at the Keystone Korner in S.F. WAY back in the days.(70's) use to 
say. "It be "COLD" when the Jones come down on ya." rotflmao...
 


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Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:58 -0800



Mark,
Yep! You have the "Hook Monkey" and your "Jones" is BAD! 

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 










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Subject: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700



i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done 
it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself.lol. i just sent 
$60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout 
an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. 
i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 
1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually 
the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i 
was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. 
So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 
i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i 
can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on 
ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not 
Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he 
considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the 
Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions 
always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes 
refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what 
were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout 
every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables 
(Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things 
were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald 
Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a 
Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk 
it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc 
Schwiebert was talkin' bout.."Beauty." .



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[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it

2009-11-13 Thread jim phillips

Mark,

Yep! You have the "Hook Monkey" and your "Jones" is BAD! 

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700



i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done 
it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself.lol. i just sent 
$60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout 
an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. 
i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 
1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually 
the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i 
was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. 
So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 
i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i 
can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on 
ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not 
Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he 
considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the 
Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions 
always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes 
refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what 
were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout 
every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables 
(Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things 
were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald 
Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a 
Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk 
it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc 
Schwiebert was talkin' bout.."Beauty." .



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