I'm not sure we're talking about the same weave here anymore. I thought
'Aaaah... with a Norvise maybe' (which offers more space under the hook than
a bobbin cradle does).
So I tried simulating a Norvise setup using two vises... the second one
closer to me, just holding the thread. But it still doesn't work. You get to
Step 4 (on my SBS)... but when you then, on Step 5, are to lay back the
right hand strand over the hook, you have to go with your right hand between
your left and the hook. You can't go with your right hand over the hook and
under your left here, because there you will have the thread closing the
door. On the Step 5 picture, it would be like closing the way between the
hook eye and the bottom of the picture... which needs to be open for your
right hand to get that strand over the hook, but under the left hand strand.
I just can't see a way to get around this without letting go of the strands.
This is just like wrapping a material having a waiting thread in front of
it... with the bobbin hanging under the hook. It can be done because you
still can get your hand between the bobbin and the table. But when hanging
it up (on Norvise rod or regular bobbin cradle), the one hand wrapping
doesn't work anymore, since the hook eye technically has been connected to
the back of the hook (through thread, rod, bench, vise).
Using this weave with a bobbin hanging under the hook is very uncomfortable,
but still possible. But when the door between the hook eye and the hook bend
is closed, then it's impossible without having to let go of materials during
the weaving process.
At least this is what I have come up with after experimenting now...
/Nick
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Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
The Nor Vise has a vertical rod opposite the vise jaws w/ a button on the
side. When you hang the bobbin over the button, the thread is straight out
from the hook, leaving both hands free to manipulate material. Also makes
dubbing easy, because you spin the vise head. For your weaving process, all
I have to do is turn the pedestal that the vise is on sideways.
J
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:46 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?
If you mean hanging it up using the bobbin cradle, then the cradle's
horizontal part under the jaws, will block the way completely and you won't
be able to get any material under the hook.
/Nick
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Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
Don't have the bobbin hanging directly below the hook, have the thread
straight out from the hook similar to the way the Nor vise is setup, w/ the
bobbin closer to your chest instead of off to the right. It might be a
little more awkward, but it would make finishing the weave easier. Think of
it as though the hook shank extended out beyond the eye; you're crossing
under the thread the same way you're already crossing under the hook.
J
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Of Niclas (Gmail)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:30 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in
during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving
back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way.
Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing
it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the
thread has been tied in again.
/Nick
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:
I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end of
weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
hold both strands of woven material in one hand wrap thread w/ the other.
As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.
J
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Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?
I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing.
It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I
would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just from
you, Allan).
Anyone having any comments on them?
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com
