Re: [VFB] Emerger

2012-10-07 Thread Chuck Alexander
Tony: Thanks to you (and Denny too). I'll have to try some of those out. It 
looks like it would be a good bluegill fly right?? Chuck

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http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080105fotw.php

Denny was kind enough to send this to me. It is the Step by step on 
tying the Still Born. I noticed I did not have the step on wrapping the silver 
wire rib but the rib can be seen in the photos. For the Antron wing emerger the 
Antron yarn is not cut off after wrapping the body. Just fold the yarn back and 
over wrap the yarn to make it lean back. Then the Peacock head is wrapped and 
tied off. The folded back yarn is then cut to the length that you want the 
wing.. The Still Born has a trailing shuck, I leave it off on the Antron Wing 
Emerger. On the size 20 midge, I tie it the same way with and without a wing 
but use thread for the body. If I tie in a wing, it is just a few strands of 
Antron tied in before I wrap the head.
Denny can receive the VFB posts but can't seem to post on the VFB. Can 
someone help him out on this.
Tony 


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Re: [VFB] Emerger

2012-10-07 Thread Anthony Spezio
Blue Gill Trout bass and even Carp. I have a fly here with a straightened hook 
that I hooked a Carp on. After about 15 minuets of fighting the Carp, it let 
go. I found the Scud Hook straightened out. It is a sz 10 scud hook.
Tony

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Tony: Thanks to you (and Denny too). I'll have to try some of those out. It 
looks like it would be a good bluegill fly right?? Chuck
 

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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:39 AM
Subject: [VFB] Emerger






http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080105fotw.php
 
Denny was kind enough to send this to me. It is the Step by step on tying the 
Still Born. I noticed I did not have the step on wrapping the silver wire rib 
but the rib can be seen in the photos. For the Antron wing emerger the Antron 
yarn is not cut off after wrapping the body. Just fold the yarn back and over 
wrap the yarn to make it lean back. Then the Peacock head is wrapped and tied 
off. The folded back yarn is then cut to the length that you want the wing.. 
The Still Born has a trailing shuck, I leave it off on the Antron Wing Emerger. 
On the size 20 midge, I tie it the same way with and without a wing but use 
thread for the body. If I tie in a wing, it is just a few strands of Antron 
tied in before I wrap the head.
Denny can receive the VFB posts but can't seem to post on the VFB. Can someone 
help him out on this.
Tony
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Re: [VFB] Emerger

2012-10-07 Thread Chuck Alexander
That's good. I have a ton of those scud hooks, because I bought 100 each in 
sizes 16,14,12, and 10 a long time ago, and just haven't had many patterns to 
tie on them. Chuck

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Blue Gill Trout bass and even Carp. I have a fly here with a 
straightened hook that I hooked a Carp on. After about 15 minuets of fighting 
the Carp, it let go. I found the Scud Hook straightened out. It is a sz 10 scud 
hook.
Tony

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  From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 2:42 PM


  Tony: Thanks to you (and Denny too). I'll have to try some of those 
out. It looks like it would be a good bluegill fly right?? Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:39 AM
Subject: [VFB] Emerger


  http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080105fotw.php

  Denny was kind enough to send this to me. It is the Step by 
step on tying the Still Born. I noticed I did not have the step on wrapping the 
silver wire rib but the rib can be seen in the photos. For the Antron wing 
emerger the Antron yarn is not cut off after wrapping the body. Just fold the 
yarn back and over wrap the yarn to make it lean back. Then the Peacock head is 
wrapped and tied off. The folded back yarn is then cut to the length that you 
want the wing.. The Still Born has a trailing shuck, I leave it off on the 
Antron Wing Emerger. On the size 20 midge, I tie it the same way with and 
without a wing but use thread for the body. If I tie in a wing, it is just a 
few strands of Antron tied in before I wrap the head.
  Denny can receive the VFB posts but can't seem to post on the 
VFB. Can someone help him out on this.
  Tony 

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Re: [VFB] Emerger

2012-10-07 Thread Anthony Spezio
Chuck,
I tie a lot of patterns on Scud Hooks. I like them and I think they hook up 
better.
I tied on the sz 20 at the Conclave and that is the size a lot asked for. I did 
not think I would be able to still do it because of my eyesight but I was still 
able to tie them.
Tony

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From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger
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Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 3:26 PM




That's good. I have a ton of those scud hooks, because I bought 100 each in 
sizes 16,14,12, and 10 a long time ago, and just haven't had many patterns to 
tie on them. Chuck
 

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From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger






Blue Gill Trout bass and even Carp. I have a fly here with a straightened hook 
that I hooked a Carp on. After about 15 minuets of fighting the Carp, it let 
go. I found the Scud Hook straightened out. It is a sz 10 scud hook.
Tony

--- On Sun, 10/7/12, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:


From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 2:42 PM






Tony: Thanks to you (and Denny too). I'll have to try some of those out. It 
looks like it would be a good bluegill fly right?? Chuck
 

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:39 AM
Subject: [VFB] Emerger






http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080105fotw.php
 
Denny was kind enough to send this to me. It is the Step by step on tying the 
Still Born. I noticed I did not have the step on wrapping the silver wire rib 
but the rib can be seen in the photos. For the Antron wing emerger the Antron 
yarn is not cut off after wrapping the body. Just fold the yarn back and over 
wrap the yarn to make it lean back. Then the Peacock head is wrapped and tied 
off. The folded back yarn is then cut to the length that you want the wing.. 
The Still Born has a trailing shuck, I leave it off on the Antron Wing Emerger. 
On the size 20 midge, I tie it the same way with and without a wing but use 
thread for the body. If I tie in a wing, it is just a few strands of Antron 
tied in before I wrap the head.
Denny can receive the VFB posts but can't seem to post on the VFB. Can someone 
help him out on this.
Tony
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Re: [VFB] Emerger

2012-10-07 Thread Chuck Alexander
You're right. I did even tie some of my PPP flies on them and had a great hook 
up to landing ratio. Chuck
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  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 3:55 PM
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Chuck,
I tie a lot of patterns on Scud Hooks. I like them and I think they 
hook up better.
I tied on the sz 20 at the Conclave and that is the size a lot asked 
for. I did not think I would be able to still do it because of my eyesight but 
I was still able to tie them.
Tony

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wrote:


  From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 3:26 PM


  That's good. I have a ton of those scud hooks, because I bought 100 
each in sizes 16,14,12, and 10 a long time ago, and just haven't had many 
patterns to tie on them. Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger


  Blue Gill Trout bass and even Carp. I have a fly here with a 
straightened hook that I hooked a Carp on. After about 15 minuets of fighting 
the Carp, it let go. I found the Scud Hook straightened out. It is a sz 10 scud 
hook.
  Tony

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chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:


From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Emerger
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 2:42 PM


Tony: Thanks to you (and Denny too). I'll have to try some 
of those out. It looks like it would be a good bluegill fly right?? Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:39 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Emerger



http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080105fotw.php

Denny was kind enough to send this to me. It is the 
Step by step on tying the Still Born. I noticed I did not have the step on 
wrapping the silver wire rib but the rib can be seen in the photos. For the 
Antron wing emerger the Antron yarn is not cut off after wrapping the body. 
Just fold the yarn back and over wrap the yarn to make it lean back. Then the 
Peacock head is wrapped and tied off. The folded back yarn is then cut to the 
length that you want the wing.. The Still Born has a trailing shuck, I leave it 
off on the Antron Wing Emerger. On the size 20 midge, I tie it the same way 
with and without a wing but use thread for the body. If I tie in a wing, it is 
just a few strands of Antron tied in before I wrap the head.
Denny can receive the VFB posts but can't seem to 
post on the VFB. Can someone help him out on this.
Tony 

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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Don Ordes
What were they blowing dry?  The head cement?  Problem with that is that 
wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty 
outer layer on it.


I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and 
after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, 
not actually blow on the flies.


Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. 
The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather 
quickly in the sun or UV light.


Was there another reason they were applying a blower?

DonO


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I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a YouTube 
video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger.


Larry Johnson
Springville, Utah

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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Rene Zillmann
drying after use. Some ppl fish the fies we used to ty.
G
Rene


On 11/11/2010 08:06 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
 What were they blowing dry?  The head cement?  Problem with that is
 that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put
 a frosty outer layer on it.

 I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying
 wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough
 to move the air, not actually blow on the flies.

 Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it
 up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure
 rather quickly in the sun or UV light.

 Was there another reason they were applying a blower?

 DonO


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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM
 Subject: [VFB] emerger


 I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a
 YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger.

 Larry Johnson
 Springville, Utah

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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Larry Johnson
He was using it for the heat to soften the plastic (polymer) tinsel he had 
mixed with peacock.  He used the same combination for the tail, body, and head.

LJ 

 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 12:06 PM 
What were they blowing dry?  The head cement?  Problem with that is that 
wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty 
outer layer on it.

I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and 
after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, 
not actually blow on the flies.

Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. 
The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather 
quickly in the sun or UV light.

Was there another reason they were applying a blower?

DonO


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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: [VFB] emerger


I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a YouTube 
video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger.

 Larry Johnson
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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Larry Johnson
He was using a home-made cement liberally throughout the tying process.

LJ

 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 12:06 PM 
What were they blowing dry?  The head cement?  Problem with that is that 
wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty 
outer layer on it.

I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and 
after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, 
not actually blow on the flies.

Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. 
The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather 
quickly in the sun or UV light.

Was there another reason they were applying a blower?

DonO


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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: [VFB] emerger


I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a YouTube 
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 Larry Johnson
 Springville, Utah

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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Guys;

That guy blow dries the material to get it to shrink and I think it causes some 
type of color change.

Wayne

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
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Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 2:06 PM

What were they blowing dry?  The head cement?  Problem with that is that wind, 
especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer 
layer on it.

I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and 
after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not 
actually blow on the flies.

Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 
'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in 
the sun or UV light.

Was there another reason they were applying a blower?

DonO


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 I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a YouTube video 
 from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger.
 
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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Don Ordes

Got a url for that video?


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I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before.  I saw this on a YouTube 
video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger.


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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Larry Johnson
I didn't get the url for the video, but I found it quickly again by googling 
NUCLEE-R  flies, peacock emerger 

LJ  



 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 2:12 PM 
Got a url for that video?


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RE: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Neville Gosling
Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that!

Nev Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC Canada


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I didn't get the url for the video, but I found it quickly again by googling
NUCLEE-R  flies, peacock emerger 

LJ  

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RE: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Allan Fish

Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that!


Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it.  I may have to try 
one of those out.  Who knows?  Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P


I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for 
true rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary 
function.  The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at 
the far side AFTER they've finished the fly.





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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Bliss
Okay Fish - that's getting kinda personal!



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that!


 Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it.  I may have to try one of
 those out.  Who knows?  Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P

 I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for true
 rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary function.
  The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at the far side AFTER
 they've finished the fly.




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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Allan Fish

Okay Fish - that's getting kinda personal!



What?  That I find it interesting?

I'm interested in a lot of things.  G

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RE: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Neville Gosling
You might as well use a flatfish!

Re: NorVise I have one. I bought it secondhand and I like it for certain
types of flies. You can sure apply dubbing very quickly and effectively with
it using the full rotary function. I use different vises for different
purposes. I use a 1984 Regal Inex for tying tubes and larger steelhead
flies. Each vise has its own advantages and disadvantages.


Neville Gosling


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Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that!

Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it.  I may have to try 
one of those out.  Who knows?  Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P

I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for 
true rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary 
function.  The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at 
the far side AFTER they've finished the fly.



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RE: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Allan Fish

You might as well use a flatfish!


Do you have a good pattern for me?   :-)

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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Don Ordes
Neville, 
I agree.  I watched the YT- all 4min21sec. of it, and he already had the anchor 
and foam down.  Now I see what he's using the blow-drier for- to melt the 
fly-away junk.

This fly, startting where he did, would take 45 seconds to tie (at most) using 
the rope-dub, and give a perfect shape not needing melting.  Kinda' like the 
one material swap.  Tail, segmented abdomen, wing- all in one pass.

Sometimes I think about posting a reply, but then again...naah.  
Not bragging, just comparing.  (Yes you are!  Buggs)

Yeah...Why DIDN'T he use the rotation ability of his vise?

DonO


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 Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that!
 
 Nev Gosling
 Greater Vancouver
 BC Canada
 
 
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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Jack Lehman

You mean like a Wiggle Bug?

http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php

At times a very effective panfish fly for me.

Jack
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Do you have a good pattern for me?   :-)



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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Don Ordes

I got one of those from Tom Tullis at a Denver show.
Still have it in my collector's flies box.
He had a tank with a pump in it pushing water over the fly, making it 
wiggle.

That's probably why it's called a Wiggle-bug, huh.
DonO

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You mean like a Wiggle Bug?

http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php

At times a very effective panfish fly for me.

Jack
Austin

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Do you have a good pattern for me?   :-)



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Re: [VFB] emerger

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Bliss
Larry Tullis I think Don.  He is the one I think originated that wiggle bug.

Mike

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 I got one of those from Tom Tullis at a Denver show.
 Still have it in my collector's flies box.
 He had a tank with a pump in it pushing water over the fly, making it
 wiggle.
 That's probably why it's called a Wiggle-bug, huh.
 DonO

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 You mean like a Wiggle Bug?

 http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php

 At times a very effective panfish fly for me.

 Jack
 Austin

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