Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Mart, I ordered the Midge book, I have Mike's book. If you ever get to come back out here, I will have you sign the Midge book where your flies are. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:22 PM Yes, Sorry for the typo. It is Rick Takahashi. He contacted me some 2 years ago and asked me to contribute some midge patterns for a book he was doing. So I tied and sent him some patterns, and sortof forgot about the whole thing. Recently he emailed me and told me that the book was ready, so I ordered it, along with Valla's Catskill book. I was *very* pleasantly surprised when I saw both books. The Midge book is an encyclopedia of midge biology, midge tying and fishing, chapters on materials nicely divided into patterns for the various stages. And the Valla Catskill book was just as nice and informative, with lots of photos of the giants of the Catskill flies, their patterns, and the historic waters. Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing BooksGary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing BooksI think you are qualified to that title. Gary S. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
DAA
I AM?
Got to be kidding.
LOL
Tony
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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I think you are qualified to that
title.
Gary S.
- Original Message -
From:
Anthony
Spezio
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04
AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly
Fishing Books
I will have to get the books out and make that
inscription. LOL
Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a
notation about a friend or as a fly tyer.
Does that make me famous, I
guess not.
Tony
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Gary: What I was
saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It
would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just
signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck,
Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want
the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case.
Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book
signed
withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open
market. Chuck
Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony
Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-)
a.
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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Booksafter four major operations I'm just glad to still be here - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Be thankful. You're famous, while I'm merely infamousJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:53 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books DAA I AM? Got to be kidding. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/4/10, the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:06 PM I think you are qualified to that title. Gary S. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I guess I have about 600 books on Fly Fishing and Fly Tying. I have a good number inscribed to me. I have been told that that lowers the value. In some cases I have photos of the author signing the book. I have put these photos in the book. I am not worried about what the books are worth at this time but there might be a time when I will need to let them go. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:19 AM There will be a string of numbers in sequence near the bottom of the page. so if it were the number two it indicates a second printing. first printings will have the number one in the string of numbers. keep your books out of direct sun light, room temp around 72 degrees and humidity in the low 50s. put them up right and never pack them in tight as this will cause the boards (covers) to warp. If the book hangs over the edge of the shelf lay it flat so there is no over hang. Martink's books are very collectable just lay them flat. An inscribed book seems to have more value because the person was present when it was signed or was a person known to the author and he/she took more time to personalize the book. many times a signed book can be bought from a book dealer. Something I have seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond is a signed paste in card with the authors signature on it. For me to paste into his book! To me that is the height of laziness. Many of my books are inscribed to Diane. I had them done that way as I expected her to out live me. She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer. The only time the to will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to someone more or less famous. Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some collectors go to the extreme of storing them separate and flattened. Any sunlight will cause fading over time even indirect light, so pick your site for your bookcases with care. Gary S. From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary, I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people. Darren On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Good advise on the non smoking home if you are collecting. I bought Warren Duncan's 'Forgotten Flies' on ebay from his sister and still today the smoke smell is in the book. But, I did buy if for reference... Peggy B the smith's wrote: Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - *From:* mel hocken mailto:softhac...@shaw.ca *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I collected first edition equine books for about 30 years, I had a surprise when I went to sell them all. Most were worth what I paid or less for them, but one book I paid for near nothing was a 4 figure book to sell. Had a entire set of Dick Frances books, all signed, but near the end of his wifes life there was a rumor that she in face had written a lot of the books so the value dropped like lead right when I wanted to empty the shelves for fly tying materials. So now my advise is collect what you like to read, not just to have shelves lined with good books never read. I admit I have a weak spot for a author sitting at a show signing what they have written. The Catskill Fly book is great. I have a Nook somewhere and am going to ebooks for mystery's and the like. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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Yes it is Mikes book, very well done. Peggy B Anthony Spezio wrote: Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony I'm not Mart, but I'll chip in my 2 cents: It is called Modern Midges: Tying Fishing the World's Most Effective Patterns, by Rick Takahashi and Jerry Hubka. (the Takahashi was missing an H at the end previously, in case you googled it) My 2 cents are that it is a great book for any and all things midge (eh, chironomids - midge, larvae, AND adult) I think the pattern count that was promoted was 1013 patterns? something unworldly like that - but it isn't just a tying pattern book. Case in point, the last 40-something pages are a sort of tips and tricks from pros, panel discussion of sorts - quite worth it for that alone. There are some 'sample pages' sites out there - assuming OK to post a link here (not just 'ok by the list rules' but 'ok by the copyright rulings and such'): http://www.flytyingclips.com/takahashi/katonk.html http://www.flytyingclips.com/takahashi/katonk.htmlAmazon (no affiliation obviously) has it here: http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Midges-Fishing-Effective-Patterns/dp/1934753009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1250039910sr=1-1#reader http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Midges-Fishing-Effective-Patterns/dp/1934753009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1250039910sr=1-1#readerAbsolutely NO affiliation, but I think Angler's Roost has some agreement or something, so they can get you a signed copy. (Rick is the guy in the photo at the link below) http://www.anglers-roost.com/Contact/index.htm Just my opinions, and just trying to help you out. Tight wraps, -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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Thanks Pete, Looks like a book I have to have. I think I bought a book from Anglers Roost this past summer. It was Dry Flies by, I can't spell his name., It was also Japanese. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Peter Gramp pete.gr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Gramp pete.gr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 11:26 AM On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony I'm not Mart, but I'll chip in my 2 cents: It is called Modern Midges: Tying Fishing the World's Most Effective Patterns, by Rick Takahashi and Jerry Hubka. (the Takahashi was missing an H at the end previously, in case you googled it) My 2 cents are that it is a great book for any and all things midge (eh, chironomids - midge, larvae, AND adult) I think the pattern count that was promoted was 1013 patterns? something unworldly like that - but it isn't just a tying pattern book. Case in point, the last 40-something pages are a sort of tips and tricks from pros, panel discussion of sorts - quite worth it for that alone. There are some 'sample pages' sites out there - assuming OK to post a link here (not just 'ok by the list rules' but 'ok by the copyright rulings and such'):http://www.flytyingclips.com/takahashi/katonk.html Amazon (no affiliation obviously) has it here:http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Midges-Fishing-Effective-Patterns/dp/1934753009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1250039910sr=1-1#reader Absolutely NO affiliation, but I think Angler's Roost has some agreement or something, so they can get you a signed copy. (Rick is the guy in the photo at the link below) http://www.anglers-roost.com/Contact/index.htm Just my opinions, and just trying to help you out.Tight wraps, -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Yes, Sorry for the typo. It is Rick Takahashi. He contacted me some 2 years ago and asked me to contribute some midge patterns for a book he was doing. So I tied and sent him some patterns, and sortof forgot about the whole thing. Recently he emailed me and told me that the book was ready, so I ordered it, along with Valla's Catskill book. I was *very* pleasantly surprised when I saw both books. The Midge book is an encyclopedia of midge biology, midge tying and fishing, chapters on materials nicely divided into patterns for the various stages. And the Valla Catskill book was just as nice and informative, with lots of photos of the giants of the Catskill flies, their patterns, and the historic waters. Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing BooksLOL.. We read each others minds. See my latest email, Chuck - Original Message - From: Allan Fish To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 03:41:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first editions from one of the other sites he is on. First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different titles. which are insured for $35,000. first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting. Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is 1932 Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket without any major tears. $40-$50 Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important. $40-$50 Fly rod Trouting $20-$30 Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60 Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value. Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving clues as to which printing. Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only clue as to a first or second printing. Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose value because of the stamps and gluing of covers adding the decimal system numbers to the spine etc. Signed books have more value than none signed and inscribed to someone even more. Age has little to do with value. I have books form the late 1800s that can be gotten today for $20.00. My book with the highest value was published in1992 it is one of 150 copies. Buying books as an investment is a very bad idea. Buy the writers you like to read and collect their works. Gary S fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of Fly-Tying Methods by Darrel Martin that somebody can steal from me for only $25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any site on the net. It's in Like New condition with no writing, missing, loose, or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of Fly Fishing books. but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books this afternoon. I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from distinguished fly fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check, but this'll do for now. While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present, I'd like to have a 'ball park figure of what you think they might be worth. Would I be able to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have my guns and Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books. You can do this on List for I'm sure there are others who would like to know also. Thanks, JIMMY D My First Editions Trout Madness - Robert Traver, 1992, Northmont Publishing Fishing W/ Ray Bergman 1970, Alfred Knopf Fly Rod Trouting - Ed Shenk, 1989 Stackpole Books Flick's New Streamside guide, 1969 Crown Publishing Art Flick's Master Fly Tying Guide, 1972 Crown Publishing Fishless Days, Angling Nights - Alfred Miller, (Sparse Grey Hackle) Crown 1971 Royal Coachman - Paul Schullery, 1999 Prospecting for Trout - Tim Rosenbauer 1993 Trout Magic- Robert Traver, 1974 Crown Trout Hunting - Frank Woolner 1977 Winchester Press Misadventures of a Fisherman - Jack hemingway, 1986 Taylor Publishing ( autographed copy) Tying Dry Flies - Lefty kreh, 1998 Crown Publishing Tricks that Take Fish - Howard Blaisdell 1954 H. Holt Co. The Longest Silence - Thomas McGuane, Knopf 1999 Just Fishing - Ray Bergman, 1945 Knopf Western Trout Fly Tying Manual - Jack Dennis, Snake River Books 1974 Mastering the Art of Fly tying - Richard Talleur,1979, Stackpole Books -- º ** JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, author Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition. I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society? Regards Mel - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first editions from one of the other sites he is on. First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different titles. which are insured for $35,000. first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting. Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is 1932 Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket without any major tears. $40-$50 Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important. $40-$50 Fly rod Trouting $20-$30 Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60 Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value. Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving clues as to which printing. Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only clue as to a first or second printing. Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose value because of the stamps and gluing of covers adding the decimal system numbers to the spine etc. Signed books have more value than none signed and inscribed to someone even more. Age has little to do with value. I have books form the late 1800s that can be gotten today for $20.00. My book with the highest value was published in1992 it is one of 150 copies. Buying books as an investment is a very bad idea. Buy the writers you like to read and collect their works. Gary S fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of Fly-Tying Methods by Darrel Martin that somebody can steal from me for only $25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any site on the net. It's in Like New condition with no writing, missing, loose, or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of Fly Fishing books. but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books this afternoon. I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from distinguished fly fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check, but this'll do for now. While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present, I'd like to have a 'ball park figure of what you think they might be worth. Would I be able to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have my guns and Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books. You can do this on List for I'm sure there are others who would like to know also. Thanks, JIMMY D My First Editions Trout Madness - Robert Traver, 1992, Northmont Publishing Fishing W/ Ray Bergman 1970, Alfred Knopf Fly Rod Trouting - Ed Shenk, 1989 Stackpole Books Flick's New Streamside guide, 1969 Crown Publishing Art Flick's Master Fly Tying Guide, 1972 Crown Publishing Fishless Days, Angling Nights - Alfred Miller, (Sparse Grey Hackle) Crown 1971 Royal Coachman - Paul Schullery, 1999 Prospecting for Trout - Tim Rosenbauer 1993 Trout Magic- Robert Traver, 1974 Crown Trout Hunting - Frank Woolner 1977 Winchester Press Misadventures of a Fisherman - Jack hemingway, 1986 Taylor Publishing ( autographed copy) Tying Dry Flies - Lefty kreh, 1998 Crown Publishing Tricks that Take Fish - Howard Blaisdell
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: mel hocken To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition. I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society? Regards Mel - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first editions from one of the other sites he is on. First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different titles. which are insured for $35,000. first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting. Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is 1932 Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket without any major tears. $40-$50 Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important. $40-$50 Fly rod Trouting $20-$30 Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60 Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value. Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving clues as to which printing. Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only clue as to a first or second printing. Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose value because of the stamps and gluing of covers adding the decimal system numbers to the spine etc. Signed books have more value than none signed and inscribed to someone even more. Age has little to do with value. I have books form the late 1800s that can be gotten today for $20.00. My book with the highest value was published in1992 it is one of 150 copies. Buying books as an investment is a very bad idea. Buy the writers you like to read and collect their works. Gary S fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of Fly-Tying Methods by Darrel Martin that somebody can steal from me for only $25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any site on the net. It's in Like New condition with no writing, missing, loose, or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of Fly Fishing books. but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books this afternoon. I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from distinguished fly fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check, but this'll do for now. While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present, I'd like to have a 'ball park figure of what you think they might be worth. Would I be able to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have my guns and Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books. You can do this on List
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Gary, I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people. Darren On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck - Original Message - *From:* the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - *From:* mel hocken softhac...@shaw.ca *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books *Gary* *Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition.* *I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?* *Regards* *Mel* - Original Message - *From:* the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first editions from one of the other sites he is on. First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different titles. which are insured for $35,000. first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting. Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is 1932 Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket without any major tears. $40-$50 Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important. $40-$50 Fly rod Trouting $20-$30 Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60 Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value. Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving clues as to which printing. Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only clue as to a first or second printing. Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose value because of the stamps and gluing of covers
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Gary The fellows you mention are some of my favorites. I'm saddened to hear about Tapply he was a real down to earth writer. M.R. Montgomery is another writer I enjoy very much. Mel - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
There will be a string of numbers in sequence near the bottom of the page. so if it were the number two it indicates a second printing. first printings will have the number one in the string of numbers. keep your books out of direct sun light, room temp around 72 degrees and humidity in the low 50s. put them up right and never pack them in tight as this will cause the boards (covers) to warp. If the book hangs over the edge of the shelf lay it flat so there is no over hang. Martink's books are very collectable just lay them flat. An inscribed book seems to have more value because the person was present when it was signed or was a person known to the author and he/she took more time to personalize the book. many times a signed book can be bought from a book dealer. Something I have seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond is a signed paste in card with the authors signature on it. For me to paste into his book! To me that is the height of laziness. Many of my books are inscribed to Diane. I had them done that way as I expected her to out live me. She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer. The only time the to will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to someone more or less famous. Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some collectors go to the extreme of storing them separate and flattened. Any sunlight will cause fading over time even indirect light, so pick your site for your bookcases with care. Gary S. From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary, I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people. Darren On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: mel hocken To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition
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And to complicate things even more, Sometimes a First edition can have a #2 in the Number line... Go figure.. I read that in the book called collecting rare and antiquarian books or something like that.. I know I read it somewhere. maybe it was on my box of cereal in the morning LOL.. Seriously, as has been stated by Gary, sometimes it's hard to tell if you have a first edition, much less a first PRINTING of a First EDITION.. And sometimes the SECOND edition can be more valuable than the first.. I think that would have to do with the number of books printed in a certain printing. If one printing was way less, the books in that printing might be worth more that is the first edition had a million books printed... Confused?? Good, cause I sure am LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books There will be a string of numbers in sequence near the bottom of the page. so if it were the number two it indicates a second printing. first printings will have the number one in the string of numbers. keep your books out of direct sun light, room temp around 72 degrees and humidity in the low 50s. put them up right and never pack them in tight as this will cause the boards (covers) to warp. If the book hangs over the edge of the shelf lay it flat so there is no over hang. Martink's books are very collectable just lay them flat. An inscribed book seems to have more value because the person was present when it was signed or was a person known to the author and he/she took more time to personalize the book. many times a signed book can be bought from a book dealer. Something I have seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond is a signed paste in card with the authors signature on it. For me to paste into his book! To me that is the height of laziness. Many of my books are inscribed to Diane. I had them done that way as I expected her to out live me. She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer. The only time the to will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to someone more or less famous. Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some collectors go to the extreme of storing them separate and flattened. Any sunlight will cause fading over time even indirect light, so pick your site for your bookcases with care. Gary S. From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary, I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people. Darren On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of Fly-Tying Methods by Darrel Martin that somebody can steal from me for only $25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any site on the net. It's in Like New condition with no writing, missing, loose, or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of Fly Fishing books. but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books this afternoon. I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from distinguished fly fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check, but this'll do for now. While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present, I'd like to have a 'ball park figure of what you think they might be worth. Would I be able to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have my guns and Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books. You can do this on List for I'm sure there are others who would like to know also. Thanks, JIMMY D My First Editions Trout Madness - Robert Traver, 1992, Northmont Publishing Fishing W/ Ray Bergman 1970, Alfred Knopf Fly Rod Trouting - Ed Shenk, 1989 Stackpole Books Flick's New Streamside guide, 1969 Crown Publishing Art Flick's Master Fly Tying Guide, 1972 Crown Publishing Fishless Days, Angling Nights - Alfred Miller, (Sparse Grey Hackle) Crown 1971 Royal Coachman - Paul Schullery, 1999 Prospecting for Trout - Tim Rosenbauer 1993 Trout Magic- Robert Traver, 1974 Crown Trout Hunting - Frank Woolner 1977 Winchester Press Misadventures of a Fisherman - Jack hemingway, 1986 Taylor Publishing ( autographed copy) Tying Dry Flies - Lefty kreh, 1998 Crown Publishing Tricks that Take Fish - Howard Blaisdell 1954 H. Holt Co. The Longest Silence - Thomas McGuane, Knopf 1999 Just Fishing - Ray Bergman, 1945 Knopf Western Trout Fly Tying Manual - Jack Dennis, Snake River Books 1974 Mastering the Art of Fly tying - Richard Talleur,1979, Stackpole Books -- º ** JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, author Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release Date: 12/29/09 01:47:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
