Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Alan, Juri's flies were designed for targeting atlantic salmon. Cheers, Hans On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: Thanks Hans, very nice looking flies. Can you tell me what kind of fish these are for? Thank you, Alan Di Somma You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Hi All; I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? Wayneb --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Hi Wayne, In the case of Atlantic Salmon flies I expect its to get some weight into the fly via the metal tube to get the fly done to the bottom in cold water. Others, tied in certain ways, allow the 'fly' to be fished in a different way to conventional flies such as half-hitched where one end of the tube is sealed and a hole drilled in the centre of the tube causing the fly to create a wake when finished in/on the surface. Thats my theory anyway. Ashley On 9 November 2010 17:55, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All; I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? Wayneb --- On *Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Hans, That set of flies are really nice. I can find several pages with patterns (mostly on danica.com) which help when I tye for others but I'm presuming that Alan was after sites that showed how to tye tubes. May have to send one or two Snelda tubes as there seems to be a shortage of patterns for these on the web, including instructions in fitting the cone heads. Information which I couldn't find on the web. This site does have a few articles on tubes:- http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/ Ashley On 9 November 2010 14:23, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com wrote: Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a small treble hook or double hook - much used over there. Here in the Pacific NW, tube flies are a great way to build a long fly with little weight and to put a small hook at the back. For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3 inches long. Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some reservations about the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook more consisitently. Jay From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Blake-Hedges Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies Hi All; I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? Wayneb --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
I know that a lot of people like to use single hooks for their tubes, I notice that Partridge market them. I also remember Deb, who used to be on the list, saying that she liked to use tubes for Bluefish tied on plastic tubes because when the fish takes the fly slides up the leader and if the leader breaks she can just pick up the floating fly. Although I thought that tubes were held in place at the tube/hook join by a length of rubber tubing. Ashley On 9 November 2010 19:01, Jay Paulson rustyh...@centurytel.net wrote: In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a small treble hook or double hook – much used over there. Here in the Pacific NW, tube flies are a great way to build a long fly with little weight and to put a small hook at the back. For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3 inches long. Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some reservations about the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook more consisitently. Jay *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Blake-Hedges *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:56 AM *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies Hi All; I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? Wayneb --- On *Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Many tube diameters can hold the hook by itself. I also glue a larger diameter tube over the smaller tube the fly is tied on for large hooks. This is actually preferable as the rubber tubing doesn't hold the hook well for hooking (IMHO). The reason many people in Europe use treble hooks is that salmon are very good at throwing a single hook. I fished Norway this year and can attest to that. I also think that salmon are good at this cause they know if landed, they are going to get bonked. I must admit to not understanding this, especially the killing of grilse. However, my buddy from London landed a 20 pounder (netted by me) that was released! There are many short-shanked, large-gapped hooks available now for tube flies. For a great source of tubes, check out: http://www.hmhvises.com/tubesconeshooks.htm Jay From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ashley strutt Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:14 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies I know that a lot of people like to use single hooks for their tubes, I notice that Partridge market them. I also remember Deb, who used to be on the list, saying that she liked to use tubes for Bluefish tied on plastic tubes because when the fish takes the fly slides up the leader and if the leader breaks she can just pick up the floating fly. Although I thought that tubes were held in place at the tube/hook join by a length of rubber tubing. Ashley On 9 November 2010 19:01, Jay Paulson rustyh...@centurytel.net wrote: In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a small treble hook or double hook - much used over there. Here in the Pacific NW, tube flies are a great way to build a long fly with little weight and to put a small hook at the back. For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3 inches long. Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some reservations about the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook more consisitently. Jay From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Blake-Hedges Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies Hi All; I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? Wayneb --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Hans Weilenmann hans.weilenm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Thanks Hans, very nice looking flies. Can you tell me what kind of fish these are for? Thank you, Alan Di Somma You know your a redneck when: You have the local taxidermist on speed dial... http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Hans Weilenmann To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies Like this set maybe? http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm Cheers, Hans You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
check out http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/coloring-raw-tubes/, this is one of my favorite internet sites. Joyce On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:03 AM, ashley strutt galeforce1...@gmail.comwrote: There doesn't seem to be that many sites dedicated to tubes flies when I google search. I think there are one or two books but its a case of picking up a bit from several sources. Ashley Ashley: I am becoming more interested in tube flies. Is there a web site or a list like this one that discussed tube flies? Thank you, Alan Di Somma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
