Andreas, I'm glad you took my post in the spirit with which it was intended ;-)
> Since my name is mentioned I should say something, huh. :o) I was hoping you would! After I pressed submit, I noticed my tone was a little aggressive, but I can't take it back, just move forward. I was "calling you out" based on the difficulty with which people are able to comment on your blog (not the number of trackbacks you have). A commenter must already have their own blog, which I think is not realistic for the next few years for most people. You may have chosen intentionally to only accept "comments" (as trackbacks) only from those that have advanced enough to have their own blog AND post with tools that handle trackbacks for them (and I don't know which tools or online services that is, even). My implicit proposal was that if you want comments, 1) avoid requiring the commenter to have a blog (which means avoid trackbacks as the ONLY means of "commenting"), 2) avoid requiring the commenter to visit a web page interactively, 3) > My kind of snarky answer to you is: Why should I care about PDA users? I > mean, you're trying to fir in online actions to an offline device. > Shouldn't it be your problem to work out, and not mine? :o) As far as being "my problem to work out" for PDA users, I agree to the extent that I can work within the specifications as implemented. With respect to fitting "online actions to an offline device": my main point is that if the specifications are such that they CAN accommodate offline devices, then maybe we should all work toward allowing such devices to participate. And partly my slant is a result of my belief that we will be (potentially slowly) moving away from the desktop computer toward mobile devices and living room viewers. After all, a huge reason this all exists is a result of RSS Feeds, which are VERY convenient on mobile devices. Let's go ahead and make the whole process of publishing and interacting convenient on mobile devices. Who wants to be chained to their desktop to interact? All you with 23" widescreen Macs can put your hands down now ;-). > One way to get something like the <comments> element to "work" is to > locally allow your user to write his comment. Save these associated with > the <comments> data (or the <link> or <guid> or 15 other ways of > designating a permalink in RSS 2.0). When a connection is available pulls > up the comments page and have the comments text saved in a clipboard like > function. The user can then insert his comment (and name, url, email - all > saved in a setting somewhere) and click the submit button. Actually, the "permaLink" is only on the GUID, and it is not required. And the LINK element can be any HTML link. I've actually seen the LINK element be the HTML blog page (which may or may not have a comments FORM or may or may not have a link called "Comment"), the LINK element be another HTML page (when the blog was commenting on that other page), and the LINK element be the RSS feed (in the case of a "Top 10" RSS feed list. The problem is that none of this is specified or standardized. And may not have to be, if we can all use the "wfw:comment" which IS standardized as a URL that accepts a HTTP POST of a specific format. It seems like the server developers could make it much easier to enable commenting from an aggregator by implementing the CommentsAPI. That's what it is for! We shouldn't have to parse the (nonstandard) fields on an online form (in addition to requiring us to PRECACHE that form on every feed so we know what fields are necessary, on the CHANCE that the user might want to comment while offline...a LOT of extra work and processing that will be wasted most of the time). > Of course by the time the guy is online again his comments will already be > obsolete because someone else commented the exact same point while he was > messing around with his PDA. :o) Only because he enjoys it ;-) Plus duplicate comments are not always bad. Sometimes it's nice to know that several people have the same thought (like "nice video, Andreas!"). Thank you for engaging me in this discussion. I'd love to hear your further thoughts on this! Greg Smith Author, FeederReader - Pocket PC *direct* RSS text, audio, video, podcasts www.FeederReader.com - Download on the Road --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:47:22 +0100, ecomputerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I took a look at two proponents of interactive videoblogs (I'm a > > little bit sorry for calling you out, but correct me if I'm wrong on > > any of this!) Andreas' blog looks like it only has trackbacks to > > blog posts on another (presumably your own) blog. > > - Andreas > -- > <URL:http://www.solitude.dk/> > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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