Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why do so many schools talk about and teach on other cultures and beliefs including their religious practice's but so very often gloss over Christianaty? or they don't even talk about it at all. Probably because

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread Timelord128
In a message dated 20/03/2008 21:51:12 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nazi is short for the German phrase for National Socialist -- Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Nazism is a form of Socialism. And since Socialism is left wing, it follows that Nazism is left

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread David Meade
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why do so many schools talk about and teach on other cultures and beliefs including their religious practice's but so very often gloss over Christianaty? or they don't even talk about it at all. I don't know it its fair to

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread Heath
Both my kids had situations when being taught, I think it was in social studies where they had a couple of chapters on diversity and cultures and in that they were taught various thingsnow understand I am not saying I disagree with that, I thought it was great. However, when it came to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread David Meade
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both my kids had situations when being taught, I think it was in social studies where they had a couple of chapters on diversity and cultures and in that they were taught various thingsnow understand I am not saying I

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-24 Thread Heath
They went into pretty great detail, at least they did here, And no, personaly I did not feel slighted, I love to learn and I wanted my kids to be the same wayI was more talking to the feeling that some conseritives have that 'everything else' is being taught...again for me, I say teach

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Heath
Well, that certainly explains a lot.. Heath --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, a common misconception. Respect is only afforded *between* religious groups because their beliefs are all based on unreliable evidence and neither one

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Heath
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, standing up for the separation of church and state guaranteed by the First Amendment isn't in any way an attack on people's religions but is often sold as such by religious leaders. Then why do so many schools

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Jay dedman
Fair enough. I also find it hypocritical that groups that claim to be for tolerance but seem to have zero tolerance when it comes to religious expression and speech and cry foul every turn. I think its a cycle of hypocrisy all around. Do we really want to hear each other or just WIN. The

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Jay dedman
Fair enough. I also find it hypocritical that groups that claim to be for tolerance but seem to have zero tolerance when it comes to religious expression and speech and cry foul every turn. I think its a cycle of hypocrisy all around. Do we really want to hear each other or just WIN. The

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Jay dedman
By the way, we do have 2 active videobloggers in this group who are also evangelical christians. I always enjoy their work because they ask questions and are open to dialogue. (they also make good videos) Dennis: http://ymimexico.youthministrytv.com/2007/12/06/church-and-state-part-1/

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Chris
Then why do so many schools talk about and teach on other cultures and beliefs including their religious practice's but so very often gloss over Christianaty? or they don't even talk about it at all. If that's the case, I agree with you, Heath. If a class is talking about religions in an

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread brogan_kerry
Hey all- Let me start off by saying I certainly wouldn't call myself and evangelical Christian. No hard feelings towards Jay. He's great and he and Ryanne have been a big encouragement to me since I started videoblogging. I do occasionally make videos about belief or exploring aspects

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-23 Thread Brook Hinton
I think a slightly modified version of Scoop Nisker's If you don't like the news go out and make some of your own applies here. ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan
There is the demographic factor that Terry originally brought up: younger people tend to be both more comfortable with technology (though there are huge exceptions) and more liberal in their political/social views (again, with exceptions). This probably accounts for a lot of the skew on YouTube

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Adrian Miles
I would have thought this extended way beyond the video blogging community and could reasonably be asked of the community in general, where the video community is a smaller mirror of the larger one. On the other hand you're using community to equal audience, I think the video community (and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
Ah, a common misconception. Respect is only afforded *between* religious groups because their beliefs are all based on unreliable evidence and neither one can say which is the true religion. On the other hand, because I'm not religious I can criticize religion as much as I want. For example, I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Sull
If someone were to question my beliefs I would probably call it an intellectually stimulating conversation. Not an intolerant attack. It all depends on what you base your beliefs. Cheers! To backbones and and alcohol! On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread terry.rendon
If someone were to question my beliefs I would probably call it an intellectually stimulating conversation. Not an intolerant attack. It all depends on what you base your beliefs. I think you are assuming that religious people don't like their beliefs criticized. I'm often critical of my own

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Gena
In regards to your question about 3rd party candidates the answer if simple. They do not make collective use of the opportunity they have to get their viewpoints across. They do not vlog. I was doing some kind of research, I think around the time of Pixeloden. I truly wanted to find Libertarian,

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you are assuming that religious people don't like their beliefs criticized. I'm often critical of my own faith beliefs. I think here in America there are many people who are critical of religion. However, I

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread terry.rendon
True enough. But it doesn't make it any less hypocritical when religion is used as an ivory tower from which people can launch vicious attacks at other groups but then cry intolerance when their own group is attacked. And that is a fairly frequent occurrence. Fair enough. I also finding

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread terry.rendon
True enough. But it doesn't make it any less hypocritical when religion is used as an ivory tower from which people can launch vicious attacks at other groups but then cry intolerance when their own group is attacked. And that is a fairly frequent occurrence. Fair enough. I also find it

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair enough. I also find it hypocritical that groups that claim to be for tolerance but seem to have zero tolerance when it comes to religious expression and speech and cry foul every turn. I'm admittedly biased, but

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-22 Thread Adrian Miles
because for for most communities outside of North America tolerance is probably understood and experienced to be something that is largely free of religion, I live in what I regard as a (sometimes) tolerant society, and religion plays quite a small role over all. An important one, but

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hey Steve, I looked at this a little closer... http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 There's some criticisms I have about it. (This is of course assuming I'm understanding it correctly. Feel free to point out any problems in my reasoning.) Criticism #1: I don't think the 2 properties

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello, After reading this, I think you're under the impression that I'm making an argument for the Neocons -- for the dominant faction of the Republican Party. I'm not! Replies below. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it quite apt, actually. Did

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Ron Watson
No, no no...I know you're not supporting the neo-cons. I just think you're naively enabling them. Probably about what you think about me and the Neoliberals. Actually I bet we have a boatload in common on many issues, and after reading your post, I know we do. What a great conversation

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Heath
diveristy and tolerance goes both ways. Heath --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if religious people can't speak comfortably, it probably means the online video community is rational and intelligent. If republicans can't speak

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Thanks for the response :) Regarding fascism, I would love to learn more about your definition of Fascism. I have read that the Austrian School think it is a form of socialism, and from previous discussions I guess you are influenced by the Austrian School, but I dont actually know the details of

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Or to put it another way, this is a disagreement about how humans may organize themselves in the absence of authoritarian control. I tend to think that neither way has much chance of coming into being, because the vast majority of people would need to agree and be united behind one

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread David Meade
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The U.S. is very polarized at the moment. Americans like to think a Republican ideology is wrong and the Democratic Ideology is right. I don't think that's quite right. Democratic Americans like to think that - the

[videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread terry.rendon
So do you have any suggestions on how to get Evangelicals and conservatives to videoblog? Jay That's a good question. To be honest I really don't know how. I think both groups, religious groups and conservatives, for some reason don't seem to effectively use film media. Of course there are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

2008-03-21 Thread Jay dedman
That's a good question. To be honest I really don't know how. yeah, ive asked my other evangelical/conservative friends the same thing. never gotten a good answer. There's nothing stopping them. Looking at that community's power structure, it seems very top down though. I think both groups,