Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Brook Hinton
Charles, are you implying normal people don't want to watch (let alone make) art or arty things? There's a lot of art and arty as well in the videoblogging world and among those in this group. The phrasing of your question is pretty insulting. Brook On 2/19/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Brook Hinton
Whoops just saw your followup. Gosh golly, you're right, I guess I don't have any layman or common people in my audience. Only royalty and criminals/ Sheesh. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Heath
There are a ton of festivals going around some cater to mainstream, some don't, I thought that was what Charles was talking aboutI mean there is arty stuff out there, that people don't get, heck there is mainstream stuff, I don't get Heath http://heathparks.com http://batmangeek.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
I'm sorry you were insulted by what I said. I didn't mean to insult. The way it looks like to me is that whatever you want to call them... the vast majority of the people I know seem to have certain tastes in videos. I was trying to use a monicker that described them. I thought putting normal

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread David Howell
Yes. Of course. the common blue collar person has no appreciation for art or arty things. How about you just stop with the labels. Your hole is already deep enough. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry you were insulted by what I

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Milt Lee
I'm stunned at the responses I've seen here. Here's something to think about. When Alan J. Lerner was working on some new lyrics for Camelot, he was struggling with one line - for a week. Jack Warner wondered what was going on, so he stopped in to see what the hold up was with his movie. Alan

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Cheryl
Huh. I got what you meant. Didn't find it insulting. But now I'm curious - there has to be a more precise way to say it. Heath used the term mainstream, which seems closer and doesn't add a word implying social status (like blue collar does). How about people who only drink the pop-culture

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread David Meade
To David Howell's objection: I think what David is saying is that using normal or real or some class-based term as the alternative to artsy tends to imply that artsy therefore has some odd, fake, or obscure measure of worth. (correct me if I'm wrong and putting words in your mouth, David.)

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Watkins
Its always hard to talk in terms of generalisations and labels. Its understandable that people resent it sometimes, but sometimes generalisations and stereotypes have some truth to them, they just dont apply to people quite as broadly as solid words suggest. I mean there are a lot of

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread missbhavens1969
Yeah. This comes up all the time in my house: the relationship/lack of relationship between class and artsy as a label. Oh, yes. So familiar. This is the conversation that comes up when my artsy fiancee gives me (reasonably good-natured) grief about not understanding whatever artsy static he

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Chris
Artsy people watch 2001: A Space Odyssey over and over and over and when you ask questions about what the hell is going on, they roll their eyes. I could watch 2001 over and over and over again, but I'd seriously have to take the scissors to that interminably long psychedelic fly-over of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
What the fuck?? An interminably long psychedelic fly-over of Jupiter?!? *rolls eyes* Fuck you Chris. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Artsy people watch 2001: A Space Odyssey over and over and over and when you ask questions about what the hell is going

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Chris
Sorry... I can only take so many rolling shots of solarized terrain before going, Okay, I'm not getting anything new here. :) Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the fuck?? An interminably long psychedelic fly-over of Jupiter?!?

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are :) Renat --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Of course. the common blue collar person has no appreciation for art or arty things. How about you just stop with the labels. Your hole is

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hole is already deep enough. That phrase should only ever be uttered to the accompaniment of bad 1970's porn music. ;) Chris

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-20 Thread Markus Sandy
On Feb 20, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Chris wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hole is already deep enough. That phrase should only ever be uttered to the accompaniment of bad 1970's porn music. ;) Wakka Chikka Wakka Chikka: Porn Music

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-19 Thread David Howell
What the fuck?? Normal!?!? You have got to be kidding me. Fuck you Charles. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What type of works are they looking for? Only artsy type stuff? Or are they accepting the type of things that normal people

Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-19 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Calm down that's why I put normal in quotes. I don't know a better word to use. Would you prefer layman? Basically the common person. -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ Motorsport Videos http://TireBiterZ.com/ Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

[videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

2008-02-19 Thread Bill Cammack
Sounds like an excellent motto to ME! :D --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think its ANYTHING GOES :) On 2/19/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What type of works are they looking for? Only artsy type stuff? Or are they