Re: [videoblogging] Darwin Streaming Server...

2007-05-22 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 21/5/07 Ron Watson mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] 
Darwin Streaming Server... that:
I am also curious as to how/where I can upload to support more users
concurrently.

If this is inappropriate for this list, I'll be happy to take this
discussion private with Josh Paul and anyone else interested, but I
thought it might be an interesting topic for some of us here.

hi Ron

if you haven't done so already, then the admin guide at URL: 
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html  
and the admin doc at URL: 
http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/QuickTime/idxStreaming-date.html  
shoujd help.

the second one is for QT server but from memory it is the one that 
talks about setting up streams.

finally URL: 
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/delivery.html  is a good 
intro.
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Re: [videoblogging] Darwin Streaming Server...

2007-05-21 Thread joshpaul
Yes. What is the problem you're having? Feel free to contact me off list.

On 5/21/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone have any luck working with Darwin Streaming Server?

  I'd like to give it a try, but failed miserably on my first attempt.

  I think I have the problem resolved at the base level, where it was
  not working before, but am sure to run into problems.

  Anyone have any info or experience with DSS?

  Cheers,

  Ron Watson

  Pawsitive Vybe

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Re: [videoblogging] Darwin Streaming Server...

2007-05-21 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 21/5/07 Ron Watson mentioned about [videoblogging] Darwin 
Streaming Server... that:
Anyone have any luck working with Darwin Streaming Server?

I'd like to give it a try, but failed miserably on my first attempt.

I think I have the problem resolved at the base level, where it was
not working before, but am sure to run into problems.

Anyone have any info or experience with DSS?

used to run it off an apple os x server some time ago, but no longer. 
This is not quite Darwin.

but for videoblogging would not recommend RTSP *at all*. RTSP is for 
real time broadcasting, so unless your project is justin.tv or 
similar, it ins't worth it:

1. 2 minutes of video is sent for 2 minutes
2. irrespective of packet loss
3. so if 25% data loss then video will be crap
4. it will drop frames (first rule to maintain data flow)
5. and usually then loses sync
6. you have no control at the user end - if someone requests your 
content on a modem they will get 2 minutes of not much data and a 
very bad experience

as i said, if broadcasting live use it, that's what it's for. for 
videoblogging where you are delivering stored video, http or ftp much 
better as it resends lost packets so your material will arrive in the 
condition/state you made it.
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Adrian Miles
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Re: [videoblogging] Darwin Streaming Server...

2007-05-21 Thread Ron Watson
Yup, I'm looking to stream live.

We goto quite a few discdog events and I'd like to be able to  
broadcast some of the event live. I think that would be super cool.

I've never been a user of DSS, so I have no experience with the video  
quality.

I also don't know how many users I can support.

I am also curious as to how/where I can upload to support more users  
concurrently.

If this is inappropriate for this list, I'll be happy to take this  
discussion private with Josh Paul and anyone else interested, but I  
thought it might be an interesting topic for some of us here.

Thanks for the response, Adrian.

Cheers,
Ron Watson

Pawsitive Vybe

On the Web:
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv


On May 21, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Adrian Miles wrote:

 around the 21/5/07 Ron Watson mentioned about [videoblogging] Darwin
 Streaming Server... that:
 Anyone have any luck working with Darwin Streaming Server?
 
 I'd like to give it a try, but failed miserably on my first attempt.
 
 I think I have the problem resolved at the base level, where it was
 not working before, but am sure to run into problems.
 
 Anyone have any info or experience with DSS?

 used to run it off an apple os x server some time ago, but no longer.
 This is not quite Darwin.

 but for videoblogging would not recommend RTSP *at all*. RTSP is for
 real time broadcasting, so unless your project is justin.tv or
 similar, it ins't worth it:

 1. 2 minutes of video is sent for 2 minutes
 2. irrespective of packet loss
 3. so if 25% data loss then video will be crap
 4. it will drop frames (first rule to maintain data flow)
 5. and usually then loses sync
 6. you have no control at the user end - if someone requests your
 content on a modem they will get 2 minutes of not much data and a
 very bad experience

 as i said, if broadcasting live use it, that's what it's for. for
 videoblogging where you are delivering stored video, http or ftp much
 better as it resends lost packets so your material will arrive in the
 condition/state you made it.
 -- 
 cheers
 Adrian Miles
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 vogmae.net.au

 



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