I never really understand this... a lot of people think they *need* a
separate hosting solution for their videos. But for organizations that
already pay for a web server, this is generally not the case. There's
no reason they can't host videos themselves on their own servers that
they already pay for. Blip and YouTube are nice in that they make it
easy for people who don't have a server... typically people who use
Blogger, MySpace, or a very limited shared server situation.

Perhaps you are correct, Nathan -- there is confusion over the word
"streaming" and the perceived need for a streaming server when it
comes to video. For some reason people don't have this "streaming"
mental image when it comes to audio. MP3s entered the public
conciousness with Napster -- they are meant to be downloaded. This has
been reinforced with iTunes/iPod. Now, streaming audio usually refers
to something more like an internet radio station or live broadcast.

Blip and YouTube are not streaming services. They are hosting services
that offer easy uploads and progressive downloads (not technically
"streaming").

-Josh


On 6/1/06, nathan.freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An interesting cross post from another Yahoo group I'm on for non-profit
> tech. This message discusses Yahoo vs. YouTube vs. Blip.
>
> Note the use of the word "streaming", a word that often comes up when I
> talk about videoblogging with people outside of this sphere.
> Much of the worlds entire perspective and expectation of video is still
> based on a web 1.0, "big iron" streaming model (aka Real, microsoft
> Asf/asx, etc) They don't know anything else - they think if you can
> download a video file you are somehow stealing it.
>
> +nathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aldon Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (ISF) Yahoo's video streaming service
> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:26:35 -0400
>
> I've been playing a lot with various video streaming systems recently
> and
> have a bunch of different thoughts.
>
> First, I should acknowledge that I haven't played with Yahoo's service,
> so I
> can't comment on whether or not it is really worth it.
>
> Most of the stuff I've seen recently has been focused on YouTube.
> http://www.youtube.com  They provide free hosting provided you given
> them
> certain rights to the videos.  For the political campaign I'm working
> on,
> http://www.nedlamont.com , volunteers have been making videos, posting
> them
> on YouTube and then embedding them in blogs.  For a good example, check
> out
> http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1420
>
> For most people it streams nicely within the context of the
> organization's
> website (or blog as in the example above).  There are problems with it
> stopping and starting when people view it from a slow connection.
>
> Meanwhile, other people have been highly recommending http://blip.tv  I
> tested them a little quite a while ago, and had mixed feelings.
> However,
> they've made major improvements since then and should be seriously
> looked
> at.
>
> I've written a bit about other video sharing services in my own blog,
> check
> the video section
> http://www.orient-lodge.com/taxonomy/page/or/14
>
> There are three entries specifically about sharing videos as well as
> several
> others that touch on the topic.  They mention services like ClipShack,
> vSocial, Castpost as well as a link to a great article sometime back on
> TechCrunch.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> As an aside, I am organizing a citizen filmmaking workshop and festival
> at
> the Media Giraffe Summit at UMass Amherst on June 29th.  Check out
> http://www.mediagiraffe.org/filmmaking/  If you can make it please do.
> If
> you have ideas for good panelists or good videos to display, please let
> me
> know.
>
> Aldon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Wed May 31, 2006 2:16 pm (PDT)
> From: "Deborah Elizabeth Finn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Yahoo's video streaming service
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> First of all, greetings from the NetSquared conference
> <www.netsquared.org>!
>
> Secondly, I'm interested in hearing from folks who have used Yahoo to
> host streaming video for their web sites.  One of my esteemed clients
> is thinking of doing this with Dreamweaver-based site.  Some of their
> concerns are:
>
> 1)  Will web surfers be move smoothly from the nonprofit
> organization's web site to the Yahoo-hosted video, and then back to
> the organization's web site, without losing their look / feel /
> branding?
>
> 2)  Are Yahoo's video streaming services a good value for the money?
>
> 3)  Do users of Yahoo's video streaming experience much in the way of
> delays or downtime as they move between the web site and the video
> streaming?
>
> 4)  What other services are comparable?
>
>
>
>
>
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