Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan
It sounds reasonable, though it would be tricky to ensure that the contact
actually is good and stays good - they'd have to do a round of verification,
and check it now and then.

However, I should think MySpace would be powerfully motivated - they've had
so much bad press and panicky parent reactions that being pro-active in this
way could be very welcome. Maybe you can get in touch with the VP for safety
or whatever title that was appointed a few months ago? And/or ask danah boyd
to do it (I dropped her an IM the other day pointing to your blog).

And, again, go after the press attention - not for yourself, but because
it's a topic that deserves attention. The holiday feel-good factor alone
would probably sell the story right now.


On 12/22/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I've been mulling over a few ideas for the past couple of days and I
 came up with this:

 What if MySpace (or any social networking site) had an in case of
 emergency, contact form that you had to fill out when you signed up?
 Just like how when you enroll in a school or go to the doctor's
 office they always make you fill out that tiny form. What if you had
 to enter the email address or IM/text message info of an emergency
 contact?

 How would usage abuse be prevented? Maybe there is a process. You have
 to enter your contact info and if you're found to be abusing the
 system, your account is erased. Also, people are less likely to prank
 a person they don't know (the emergency contact) than they are the
 person they are targeting, or the site admin.

 Thoughts?

 Zadi
 http://zadidiaz.com
 http://jetsetshow.com

  On 12/20/06, Edmund Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's not unreasonable, yeah, just that having a panic button
 does make
   people more vulnerable to pranks.
  
   Like Whe, I found Britney's Myspace page, now I shall press the
   'panic button'... once every single hour!

  




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best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

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[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
This made me recall the Death of a videoblogger Kevin
Kutz hoax last April.  When the social lines defining reality from
fiction are blurred, less attention is paid. There is then just so
much noise.  

We never found out what Kevin learned from the post other than that he
needed sleep.

Stan

http://hestakaup.com



[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Bill Cammack
Abuse can't be avoided, for the reasons someone stated before.  The best bet 
with a 
system like that would be to have the emergency information hidden and only 
accessed via 
a button on the user's page.  Even then, as Edmund stated, there's nothing 
stopping 
someone from using the button when it wasn't necessary, not only spamming that 
one 
user, but the system in general that would be used to monitor these 
button-presses.  I 
know you're saying the emergency contact people would be contacted directly, 
but there 
would also have to be some sort of system of tracking who dialed it in, 
especially if there 
are supposed to be penalties for system abuse.

Second, lots of people are going to put in fake information if the form is 
mandatory.  If it's 
not mandatory, they're not going to put in information at all.  Only the people 
that 
completely buy into the system and trust it will be able to benefit if 
something goes wrong 
with them.

On top of that, having the emails/IMs go to an emergency contact person instead 
of a 
centralized group that's been charged with handling these things assumes that 
A) the 
person on the contact list has immediate access to either IMs or their email, 
and B) they're 
willing/able to do something about it, immediately.  That's why people get paid 
to be 
firemen.  Their job is to sit around doing nothing until the moment that 
they're needed, 
then they go into action, IMMEDIATELY, and do what they're trained to do.  Your 
system 
would need a central location that has these contacts 'on file', and is in 
charge of making 
things happen, ASAP.

I think your idea is a very good one, but implementing it creates opportunities 
for abuse 
and you have to take the good with the bad in order to be able to potentially 
save 
someone's life.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been mulling over a few ideas for the past couple of days and I
 came up with this:
 
 What if MySpace (or any social networking site) had an in case of
 emergency, contact form that you had to fill out when you signed up?
  Just like how when you enroll in a school or go to the doctor's
 office they always make you fill out that tiny form. What if you had
 to enter the email address or IM/text message info of an emergency
 contact? 
 
 How would usage abuse be prevented? Maybe there is a process. You have
 to enter your contact info and if you're found to be abusing the
 system, your account is erased. Also, people are less likely to prank
 a person they don't know (the emergency contact) than they are the
 person they are targeting, or the site admin.
 
 Thoughts? 
 
 Zadi
 http://zadidiaz.com
 http://jetsetshow.com
 
 
 
 
 
  On 12/20/06, Edmund Yeo eswiftfire@ wrote:
  
 It's not unreasonable, yeah, just that having a panic button
 does make
   people more vulnerable to pranks.
  
   Like Whe, I found Britney's Myspace page, now I shall press the
   'panic button'... once every single hour!





[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-21 Thread Zadi
I've been mulling over a few ideas for the past couple of days and I
came up with this:

What if MySpace (or any social networking site) had an in case of
emergency, contact form that you had to fill out when you signed up?
 Just like how when you enroll in a school or go to the doctor's
office they always make you fill out that tiny form. What if you had
to enter the email address or IM/text message info of an emergency
contact? 

How would usage abuse be prevented? Maybe there is a process. You have
to enter your contact info and if you're found to be abusing the
system, your account is erased. Also, people are less likely to prank
a person they don't know (the emergency contact) than they are the
person they are targeting, or the site admin.

Thoughts? 

Zadi
http://zadidiaz.com
http://jetsetshow.com





 On 12/20/06, Edmund Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
It's not unreasonable, yeah, just that having a panic button
does make
  people more vulnerable to pranks.
 
  Like Whe, I found Britney's Myspace page, now I shall press the
  'panic button'... once every single hour!