Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
You'll only see a difference when you are doing something that needs the extra speed. If, for example, you are capturing DV video, the bandwidth needed is under the limit for 400, so switching to 800 doesn't make the process any faster. The big difference that I encounter is when I copy files from one drive to another. Then, I believe, the process does go twice as fast. The project I'm working on needs super fast drives, so we are using a RAID Array that connects to the computer using Serial ATA -- which gives us faster lift-off of the data from the drive platters, and then a faster connection to the computer. Firewire 800 doesn't do this -- you are right, there are bottlenecks elsewhere: a single drive can only read data so fast, etc... jen jenSimmons http://www.jensimmons.com On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:14 PM, André Sala wrote: Has anyone every really compared performance between FW400 800? I have an 800 drive plugged into the 800 port on my G5, and I honestly do not see any better performance than with my other 400 drives. Seems to me there's a bottleneck elsewhere that doesn't let the entire system really take advantage. Instead of calling it Firewire 800, I think they should have called it Firewire 430nc. nc stands for new connector. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
Why two Firewire 800 ports on the card, instead of just one? Probably simply because the room to fit them both was there and it was just as easy to do two as it was to do one. Plus, sometimes it's just easier / fast to plug a second drive into the computer -- ie: I'm working a group of people in our studio these days, passing drives back and forth and need to get into one quickly and then pass it back... I might throw it into the second port on the laptop instead of the back of my drive, to prevent jarring / disconnecting the cables on my drive. If the second port wasn't there, it might not matter... but since it is... And yes, as someone said, not all devices have two ports, so you'd have to get a hub -- which is a pain in the ass on a portable system that you are moving all the time. As for the slot itself, I've also seen gigabyte ethernet cards, and serial ATA for the new slot. http://www.expresscard-info.com/ What I WANT a videocard for that slot, so I can hook up two external monitors at the same time -- or rather, two projectors so I can do cool multi-projector things with MAX-MSP / Jitter and my laptop in live performance settings. The project I'm working on right now is a four projector gig, and so we've loaded up a Quad PowerMac with videocards to give us the ability to send separate signals to four projectors and a monitor at the same time, but for smaller versions of this same kind of work... being able to use a laptop would be ideal. Any thoughts on whether or not we'll see a videocard? It sounds like there will not be a compact flash card reader, however, because the 34mm slot is physically too small to fit flash cards. People are bummed out about that. jen jenSimmons http://www.jensimmons.com On Jun 1, 2006, at 10:18 PM, Michael Verdi wrote: I think the deal here is that it's FireWire 800 which is missing from the 15 MacBook Pro. Jen Simmons and I were talking about that the other day, wondering what you could find for that slot. The first thing that came to mind was FW 800 since some PowerBook owners have FW 800 drives since they shipped with 800 ports for a couple of years now. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
Has anyone every really compared performance between FW400 800? I have an 800 drive plugged into the 800 port on my G5, and I honestly do not see any better performance than with my other 400 drives. Seems to me there's a bottleneck elsewhere that doesn't let the entire system really take advantage. Instead of calling it Firewire 800, I think they should have called it Firewire 430nc. nc stands for new connector.On 6/2/06, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why two Firewire 800 ports on the card, instead of just one? Probablysimply because the room to fit them both was there and it was just as easy to do two as it was to do one. Plus, sometimes it's just easier /fast to plug a second drive into the computer -- ie: I'm working agroup of people in our studio these days, passing drives back and forth and need to get into one quickly and then pass it back... I might throwit into the second port on the laptop instead of the back of my drive,to prevent jarring / disconnecting the cables on my drive. If thesecond port wasn't there, it might not matter... but since it is... And yes, as someone said, not all devices have two ports, so you'd have toget a hub -- which is a pain in the ass on a portable system that youare moving all the time.As for the slot itself, I've also seen gigabyte ethernet cards, and serial ATA for the new slot.http://www.expresscard-info.com/What I WANT a videocard for that slot, so I can hook up two externalmonitors at the same time -- or rather, two projectors so I can do cool multi-projector things with MAX-MSP / Jitter and my laptop in liveperformance settings. The project I'm working on right now is a fourprojector gig, and so we've loaded up a Quad PowerMac with videocardsto give us the ability to send separate signals to four projectors and a monitor at the same time, but for smaller versions of this same kindof work... being able to use a laptop would be ideal. Any thoughts onwhether or not we'll see a videocard?It sounds like there will not be a compact flash card reader, however, because the 34mm slot is physically too small to fit flash cards.People are bummed out about that.jenjenSimmonshttp://www.jensimmons.comOn Jun 1, 2006, at 10:18 PM, Michael Verdi wrote: I think the deal here is that it's FireWire 800 which is missing from the 15 MacBook Pro. Jen Simmons and I were talking about that the other day, wondering what you could find for that slot. The first thing that came to mind was FW 800 since some PowerBook owners have FW 800 drives since they shipped with 800 ports for a couple of years now. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow.http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
When one can daisy chain firewire...why would one need another port? Am I missing something here? David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Has anyone tried or seen any reviews for this product: *2-Port NitroAV FireWire800/1394b Professional Express Card *(http://www.nitroav.com/product/444/)* *It puts two Firewire 800 ports on the MBP. Thanks for any info :-) -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
I suppose if you had a device with only one firwire port and you needed to connect two.Lots of hard drives come with only one firewire 800 port.On 6/1/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When one can daisy chain firewire...why would one need another port?Am I missing something here?Davidhttp://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Has anyone tried or seen any reviews for this product: *2-Port NitroAV FireWire800/1394b Professional Express Card *(http://www.nitroav.com/product/444/)* *It puts two Firewire 800 ports on the MBP. Thanks for any info :-) -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free.http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
On 6/1/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When one can daisy chain firewire...why would one need another port?Am I missing something here?I think the deal here is that it's FireWire 800 which is missing from the 15 MacBook Pro. Jen Simmons and I were talking about that the other day, wondering what you could find for that slot. The first thing that came to mind was FW 800 since some PowerBook owners have FW 800 drives since they shipped with 800 ports for a couple of years now. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners
I have an external FW 800 hooked to my G4 Tower and it works as fast as the internals. Love it, never tried an external FW 400. --- Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/1/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When one can daisy chain firewire...why would one need another port? Am I missing something here? I think the deal here is that it's FireWire 800 which is missing from the 15 MacBook Pro. Jen Simmons and I were talking about that the other day, wondering what you could find for that slot. The first thing that came to mind was FW 800 since some PowerBook owners have FW 800 drives since they shipped with 800 ports for a couple of years now. -Verdi http://www.jchtv.com/ A vlog about craic, cocktails, travel, sailing and Philadelphia! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
