Since the "Google Revisited" thread has caused some more talk about the nature of videoblogging and vodcasting.... thought it might be interesting to see some of what was said several months back.
There are several other threads as well... too bad yahoo group search sucks... but my gmail has it all archived so i find this stuff easily.
Anyway, i just woke up from a wine induced day.... on my way to my bed... enjoy x-mas.
sull
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From: Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mar 7, 2005 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vodcast / Vlog? (was- Detroit News videoblogger)
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
"I have to go with Verdi on this subject. Let's not try and define
ANYTHING at the moment. Let it grow. The reason why podcasting is such
a buzz word is because they didn't define whether it's a stream, or a
rss feed, etc. It's just audio shows basically. It's not new either!
>From a marketing stand point if you start trhowing all these terms
around, people won't know what the hell on vlog is to a vodcast.
Regular people know don't even know what a BLOG is for crying out
loud. Let alone what the differnce is between a vlog and vogcast."
This is very contradictive. In order to avoid the confusions you
speak of, talking about it and maybe defining some terminology would
offer some clarity. I think Michael Verdi addressed that he was just
trying to motivate people to vlog and he is not opposed to the
discussion on this. In fact, he and others are interested in teaching
videoblogging.... so in order to do that... you need to show and TELL.
We shouild have some definitions and there is nothing wrong with
that... it doesnt degrade integrity of the vlog form and as a group
about videoblogging, we better damn well talk about what it is in
addition to doing it =)
Jim, yeah I still like vodcast as you see it. makes sense to me. VOD
is not new term and always has referred to video on demand... and
thats what vloggers tap into on the sending and receiving ends.
vodcasting vlogs. Cable companies vodcast movies with their On Demand
service. Thats what they call it. bloggers use video as their
primary content, so they are vloggers and if they choose to use rss +
enclosures, they are vodcasting their vlogs. This paradigm makes
sense to me. PODCAST means same thing but it was derived from the
audio/radio world and I just dont like applying it to video,
especially when VOD was already well established term for VIDEO. Why
should we latch on to the buzz podcast word? my opinion.
sull
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:44:19 -0000, bayareablog < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> "we have to make it ewasy for the common man! I say let's go
> with the general term that tends to stick the most in everybody's
> head. Right now that's vlogging. We have to be gureilla marketers on
> this folks. Keep it simple. Keep it short. Keep it sweet!"
>
> funny...I noticed a lot of bugs flying up a log of rear ends when I
> DARED to say "web television station"
>
> but you know what...people got it
>
> mike
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "gabe_perardua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have to go with Verdi on this subject. Let's not try and define
> > ANYTHING at the moment. Let it grow. The reason why podcasting is
> such
> > a buzz word is because they didn't define whether it's a stream,
> or a
> > rss feed, etc. It's just audio shows basically. It's not new
> either!
> > From a marketing stand point if you start trhowing all these terms
> > around, people won't know what the hell on vlog is to a vodcast.
> > Regular people know don't even know what a BLOG is for crying out
> > loud. Let alone what the differnce is between a vlog and vogcast.
> >
> > My buddy Gabe can't get his family to watch our site
> > (http://www.gabe.nl). The idea that a blog/vlog is updated
> regluarly
> > is completly beyond them. They say:
> > "Yeah I saw your website."
> > -- "When did you last look?"
> > "Last month"
> > -- "It changes all the time!"
> >
> > If we want to make a change here, want to start a movemnt with
> > vlogging, we have to make it ewasy for the common man! I say let's
> go
> > with the general term that tends to stick the most in everybody's
> > head. Right now that's vlogging. We have to be gureilla marketers
> on
> > this folks. Keep it simple. Keep it short. Keep it sweet!
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jim stewart < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Luvyawork Bonnie!
> > >
> > > This where I draw my distinction between something that is a
> vlog or
> > > videoblog and something that is a vodcast. The same applies of
> course
> > > to audio but it seems less and less you hear about audio blogs
> and
> > > more about podcasts.
> > >
> > > I see vodcast as an overarching term for any video that has an
> RSS
> > > feed with enclosures. Whereas a vlog is a video blog. A vlog is
> a type
> > > of vodcast.
> > >
> > > I can see soap operas etc using vodcast technology but they are
> not
> > > necessarily a vlog. If you see my meaning. However some of the
> > > characters within the soap opera can have a vlog, like m
> Granpappy
> > > vlog.
> > >
> > > Podcast is a generic term vlog or videoblogging is quite
> specific and
> > > implies something about the type of content.
> > >
> > > Do you see what I mean?
> > >
> > > Anyone? Anyone at all....
> > > Jim Stewart
> > > http://jimstewart.net
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 04:55:09 -0000, jonnygoldstein
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This was great.
> > > >
> > > > It's all going to out there very soon. Videoblog soap operas,
> > videoblog
> > > > thrilllers, videoblog
> > > > music videos, autobiographical videoblogs, pro-wrestling
> > videoblogs, talk
> > > > show
> > > > videoblogs...It's wide open.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Wow, I'm speechless, very unique usage, love the format.
> Video
> > blogging
> > > > > editorial news. This is a huge leap forward considering how
> > standoffish
> > > > > mainstream press has been about blogs. Very promising. Then
> again
> > > > > hasn't Detroit News always been one of the most cutting edge
> > newspapers
> > > > > in the nation when it comes to embracing internet
> technologies?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've lost my ability to comprehend the meaning of the
> > developments I've
> > > > > seen lately. I thought I was on top of it, but it's going to
> take a
> > > > > while to sink in. All my craziest ideas are quickly being
> > surpassed and
> > > > > we're not but two months into this thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mar 6, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow I really love your videos, great stuff :)
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, the Giuliana Sgrena "may have been deliberately
> > > > > targetted" story has made it to top news on the BBC
> website...
> > > > >
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4323361.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > "she said she recalled her captors' words that some
> Americans "don't
> > > > > want you to go back". "
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve of Elbows
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bucqui8"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings and so good to find all of you. I invite you to
> visit
> > > > > > <a
> > > > > > href="" href="http://info.detnews.com/weblog""> http://info.detnews.com/weblog"><http://info.
> > > > > > detnews.com/weblog></a>
> > > > > > and look for me and my dog Schmoopsie
> > > > > > in the upper-right-hand corner of the page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (you can also find my links at
> > > > > > < http://estropundit.blogspot.com"><http://estropun
> > > > > > dit.blogspot.com></a>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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