Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Joan Khoo



I haven't seen any signs either during this occasion. But I have also
heard of other people being told to put away their cameras. It may
depend on which part of the airport (immigration versus waiting room)
or as Andreas says, on the security personnel. 
Joan


On 11/29/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:11:10 +0100, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Here in the U.S. I've taken photos and video in airports, including> within the secure area. I did not see any signs or hear any
> announcements that suggested I could not. (Of course a good sketch> artist with enough time between flights could map things out pretty well> just using some paper and pencils.)I've never seen any signage prohibiting filming in the transit area either
(in Europe and USA). The only place where I've noticed a sign is in thesecurity area (where the metal detectors are).These days it seems to me that the biggest limit is not set by policy butby security guards with a cause.
- Andreas, who had to stop filming at a random shopping mall in Denmarkbecause he was a terror threat (along with the other 30 students who werethere to film the architecture for later analysis)--



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:11:10 +0100, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here in the U.S. I've taken photos and video in airports, including
> within the secure area. I did not see any signs or hear any
> announcements that suggested I could not. (Of course a good sketch
> artist with enough time between flights could map things out pretty well
> just using some paper and pencils.)

I've never seen any signage prohibiting filming in the transit area either  
(in Europe and USA). The only place where I've noticed a sign is in the  
security area (where the metal detectors are).

These days it seems to me that the biggest limit is not set by policy but  
by security guards with a cause.

- Andreas, who had to stop filming at a random shopping mall in Denmark  
because he was a terror threat (along with the other 30 students who were  
there to film the architecture for later analysis)
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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joan Khoo wrote:
> Thanks for the link Steve! I'm sure the basic principles will apply in
> Australia as well.
> 
> Randolfe, just for your info, its is also prohibited to take pictures within
> the secure part of the airport. I almost had my camera confiscated in Sydney
> Airport, won't be doing that in a hurry. :)

Here in the U.S. I've taken photos and video in airports, including 
within the secure area. I did not see any signs or hear any 
announcements that suggested I could not. (Of course a good sketch 
artist with enough time between flights could map things out pretty well 
just using some paper and pencils.)

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Joan Khoo



Thanks for the link Steve! I'm sure the basic principles will apply in Australia as well. 

Randolfe, just for your info, its is also prohibited to take pictures
within the secure part of the airport. I almost had my camera
confiscated in Sydney Airport, won't be doing that in a hurry. :)

And speaking of banned electronics, I've heard of experiences where
there was a person who was on a domestic flight and was on his mobile
phone the entire time. 

Joan
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On 11/29/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Steve, that is a great resource on the rights of 
photographers and I'm printing copies right now.
 
I had an amusing (perhaps frightening) experience 
this past month.  I took a couple trips via plane.  Just out of 
curiosity, I thought it might be interesting to film the take-off and the 
landing.  I did this about five times before discovering that "all 
electronic equipment including cameras" are supposed to be shut off during 
take-off and landings.
 
I also thought of how footage of the huge Atlanta 
Airport terminal as the plane taxied to take-off might compromise the security 
of that area.
 
In any event, only while I was playing with my 
camera during the beginning of the fifth decent did the stewardess tell me video 
cameras were not allowed to film during take-offs and landing.
 
In any event, I have my take-off, flying, and 
landing video should I ever need some to use in a vlog.  Just hope I didn't 
really put my own life and other lives at risk in the process...without even 
being aware of it.  I knew about cell phones but they send signals through 
the air.  I didn't dream that video cameras were also banned.
 
 
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280

 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Steve, that is a great resource on the rights of 
photographers and I'm printing copies right now.
 
I had an amusing (perhaps frightening) experience 
this past month.  I took a couple trips via plane.  Just out of 
curiosity, I thought it might be interesting to film the take-off and the 
landing.  I did this about five times before discovering that "all 
electronic equipment including cameras" are supposed to be shut off during 
take-off and landings.
 
I also thought of how footage of the huge Atlanta 
Airport terminal as the plane taxied to take-off might compromise the security 
of that area.
 
In any event, only while I was playing with my 
camera during the beginning of the fifth decent did the stewardess tell me video 
cameras were not allowed to film during take-offs and landing.
 
In any event, I have my take-off, flying, and 
landing video should I ever need some to use in a vlog.  Just hope I didn't 
really put my own life and other lives at risk in the process...without even 
being aware of it.  I knew about cell phones but they send signals through 
the air.  I didn't dream that video cameras were also banned.
 
 
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Garfield 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:57 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Do you need 
  Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog
  I carry this downloadable pdf with me in my camera 
  bag:The Photographer's Right - A Downloadable FlyerYour Rights 
  When You Are Stopped or Confronted for Photographyhttp://www.krages.com/phoright.htmOn 
  Nov 27, 2005, at 6:45 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote:> Senario: What 
  if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for > your camera. 
  You video it, post it, and later that person states that > they don't 
  like it. It make them look._ whatever.> Of course if you are a 
  decent human being, you will probably take it > down. But, are you 
  legally required to take it down? Do you need a > release form. Some 
  people that don't understand video blogging in > public might consider 
  this a form of infringment on their privacy, > stalking 
  whatever...--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo 
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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-28 Thread Steve Garfield
I carry this downloadable pdf with me in my camera bag:

The Photographer's Right - A Downloadable Flyer
Your Rights When You Are Stopped or Confronted for Photography

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm


On Nov 27, 2005, at 6:45 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote:

> Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for 
> your camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that 
> they don't like it. It make them look._ whatever.
> Of course if you are a decent human being, you will probably take it 
> down. But, are you legally required to take it down? Do you need a 
> release form. Some people that don't understand video blogging in 
> public might consider this a form of infringment on their privacy, 
> stalking whatever...

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Jen Simmons
>  On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time 
> and distribute it freely ( I suspect without permission but I'm not 
> sure).

There are different sets of rules regarding famous people -- actors, 
politicians etc, and everybody else. I can't remember the details about 
when those rules matter -- but its having something to do with 
defamation/ privacy / etc. (Any lawyers around who know). I do know it 
means there are legal definitions of who's considered a public person 
and who's not. So don't use what people do with images / video / 
information about celebrities as a guide for what you can do with 
everyday people -- the laws aren't necessarily the same.

And of course, this is only about the US law.

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Julian Doncaster
--- "James A. Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, >just for your 
>camera. You video
it, post it, and later that >person states that they don't like it. It make 
them look._
whatever.

The best way to do this is to video them before or after the performance giving 
you permission to
use it in your VLOG.

Apart from that you are taking your risks with whatever the laws are in your 
locality. Laws may or
may not relate to Vlogging children, copyright performances, personal privacy, 
image rights (for
celebrities etc.) and government installations, or if you cause a riot.

If you are vlogging a performance on a public street then I think you should be 
OK, and most
street artists would welcome the exposure. You have the option of turning it 
into a review,
comment or report, in which case you would be protected by freedom of speech 
laws.

Make sure you credit any performances, and tell people how to get in touch with 
the artist, and
give the proper appreciation to the artists efforts, even if you don't like it.

If you are in the USA applicable laws may be rather random depending on the 
State; in Europe ditto
on the Country.

>Some people that don't understand video blogging in public might consider this 
>a form of
infringment on their privacy, stalking whatever...your thoughtsI know 
grayline,
fineline...etc.

What a wonderful learning opportunity for them and a teaching/PR opportunity 
for you.

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



Hmm...that is rather tricky.

While you are allowed to film in a public place (where this is not an
invasion of privacy), you are filming a particular person and that does
require permission. 

On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time and
distribute it freely ( I suspect without permission but I'm not sure). 
I'm not very helpful am I?

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Senario:
What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your
camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that they
don't like it. It make them look._ whatever.Of course if you
are a decent human being, you will probably take it down. But, are you
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[videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread James A. Donnelly
Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your 
camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that they don't 
like it. It make them look._ whatever.
Of course if you are a decent human being, you will probably take it down. But, 
are you legally required to take it down? Do you need a release form. Some 
people that don't understand video blogging in public might consider this a 
form of infringment on their privacy, stalking whatever...
your thoughts
I know grayline, fineline...etc.







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