Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things
I just noticed your question today, Charles, so my apologies for not responding sooner. Anyway, subsequent posts by Andreas, Jan, and others basically summed up what I was trying to say: Generally, Truth is a matter of perspective. More on this point: The event that occurred at the UCLA library was witnessed by a variety of people, but it was the video that made it a sensation. Without the video, perhaps nothing would have been made of the event; certainly it wouldn't have been drawn to our attention here, in the videoblogging Yahoo!Group. But just because some of the event was captured on video, it doesn't relate the full truth of what occurred. Certainly, it can be used as evidence, much akin to eyewitness reports. But we -- as a society, not this group of videobloggers -- tend to give much weight to what we see on video, often out of proportion to other evidence being presented. To a jury, eyewitness reports may not hold a candle to a video presentation in the courtroom. We're (generally) more swayed by video than we are by words these days. (Again, this is a generalization, perhaps practiced less by this group, since we're all attuned to the camera's tricks.) I don't wish to belabor this point, as it's already been discussed to some extent. I will clarify another detail, however, as it relates to an earlier post I made in this thread. I had previously posted that I'd never been asked for ID at Powell (the UCLA library in which this event took place). Since then, I've been reminded me that the UCPD are *required* to ask for identification in the computer labs and during Night Powell (UCLA library's night hours). My girlfriend has been asked for ID during Night Powell, and both her and I were *always* carded before entering the computer lab -- in fact, the last time I used the lab, there was a sign-in process. (Though, to be perfectly honest, it's been more than a few years since I've entered the computer lab there.) So if the staff of Powell were asking for ID, it is likely they were doing their required job, rather than being discriminatory. As for the behavior of the police -- well, that's another matter. I make no judgement on their actions without further evidence, since I wasn't there and don't have much information beyond the video to make a reasonably solid assessment of the situation. (Dang, I sound so, uh, *bureaucratic* or something!) Harold an ongoing occurrence at http://somethingthathappened.com On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Harold, On 11/20/06, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]harold.johnson%40gmail.com wrote: So I was in that library last week; as usual, nobody asked for any type of identification or anything. I've no complaint about that; I'm just noting the fact. I've been in this library perhaps a hundred times since I graduated, and don't recall an occasion in which I was carded. Perhaps the library is open to the public; I don't know. Just an FYI for anyone interested here. This an interesting story, to say the least, and I appreciate your making us aware of it, Jay. IMO, there's probably a bit of (or perhaps alot of) useful information we're not getting here. I've seen some of the characters who hang out in this library (me, for example!) -- and on campus, in general -- and though the campus *feels* quite safe, there are enough homeless hanging around to have the UCPD patrol the library from time to time. I'm not trying to generalize about the homeless here, many of whom I talk to regularly -- but some of my homeless friends are somewhat touched, so to speak. Certainly they can be distracting to anyone trying to study -- if not downright unpleasant to be around. (Take my schizophrenic fellow, calm on most days, punching ghosts on others.) What I think is important here is perhaps the most obvious: that this story demonstrates how personal video can fill in the gaps, to a certain extent, on many events -- but that does not imply that video records the Truth. I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya Video can certainly provide more information regarding an event, yet it can also dramatize and perhaps skew perception of the event. By no means, however, would I advocate suppressing this time of evidence; I simply feel that it should be accepted with a grain of salt. It's too easy to be swayed by video, allowing it to hold more weight than other evidence. My opinion, Harold http://somethingthathappened.com On 11/20/06, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]harold.johnson%40gmail.com wrote: Oh, my. I've spent many long hours in that very library... Harold On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com
Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things
Den 27.11.2006 kl. 03:39 skrev Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) While a video camera records what it sees it rarely shows The Truth, and assuming so is dangerous. There is always the matter of perspective when recording a video. In the very simplest of terms the camera was turned on at a specific time and turned off at a specific time, and while it was turned on it was pointed in one direction and not in other directions. After that comes the issues regarding editing and other post-production work. The choices made when shooting or editing need not to be malicious to be misleading and the question of interpretation is just as important with video as with reading a written account. A video can never show The Truth (as in 'how did this event transpire'). Video is not omnipresent, it can only show a situation as it happened from one perspective and that's the important thing to remember. For an easy intro to this kind of stuff I can recommend Rasmus Dahl's article Disctinctions in Documentary Television (in The Aesthetics of Television, Aalborg University Press, 2001) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/
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.. further to that, there is also the question of whether there could actually be a truth (The Truth) or whether there are multiple truths or merely representations... ;-) On 11/27/06, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 27.11.2006 kl. 03:39 skrev Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) While a video camera records what it sees it rarely shows The Truth, and assuming so is dangerous. There is always the matter of perspective when recording a video. In the very simplest of terms the camera was turned on at a specific time and turned off at a specific time, and while it was turned on it was pointed in one direction and not in other directions. After that comes the issues regarding editing and other post-production work. The choices made when shooting or editing need not to be malicious to be misleading and the question of interpretation is just as important with video as with reading a written account. A video can never show The Truth (as in 'how did this event transpire'). Video is not omnipresent, it can only show a situation as it happened from one perspective and that's the important thing to remember. For an easy intro to this kind of stuff I can recommend Rasmus Dahl's article Disctinctions in Documentary Television (in The Aesthetics of Television, Aalborg University Press, 2001) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ -- + http://www.davidandtrine.org +
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There is only one Truth. There are, however, many view points with regard to that Truth. Regards, Gary http://www.garyshort.org/ http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trine bjørkmann berry Sent: 27 November 2006 11:16 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things .. further to that, there is also the question of whether there could actually be a truth (The Truth) or whether there are multiple truths or merely representations... ;-) On 11/27/06, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:solitude%40solitude.dk wrote: Den 27.11.2006 kl. 03:39 skrev Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:supercanadian%40gmail.com : I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) While a video camera records what it sees it rarely shows The Truth, and assuming so is dangerous. There is always the matter of perspective when recording a video. In the very simplest of terms the camera was turned on at a specific time and turned off at a specific time, and while it was turned on it was pointed in one direction and not in other directions. After that comes the issues regarding editing and other post-production work. The choices made when shooting or editing need not to be malicious to be misleading and the question of interpretation is just as important with video as with reading a written account. A video can never show The Truth (as in 'how did this event transpire'). Video is not omnipresent, it can only show a situation as it happened from one perspective and that's the important thing to remember. For an easy intro to this kind of stuff I can recommend Rasmus Dahl's article Disctinctions in Documentary Television (in The Aesthetics of Television, Aalborg University Press, 2001) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ -- + http://www.davidandtrine.org + [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Oh, Iliya, Iliya, Iliya, Herein lies one of the main points of why it's important to help make people media literate through videoblogging: motion pictures can be shaped to point the truth in lots of different directions. If you learn nothing else from vlogging, this should be it. I'd love to see us - as a group - take that piece of subject video and edit it to say various things using motion picture techniques. XO, Jan On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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You don't even need motion picture techniques. A good experiment is to go into a school class of say 8 - 10 year olds and read them the nonsense poem Jabberwocky then film them telling you what the poem is about. It's great fun and a good answer to the question how much of our own perspective taints the news we hear/see/read? Regards, Gary http://www.garyshort.org/ http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan / The Faux Press Sent: 27 November 2006 12:16 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things Oh, Iliya, Iliya, Iliya, Herein lies one of the main points of why it's important to help make people media literate through videoblogging: motion pictures can be shaped to point the truth in lots of different directions. If you learn nothing else from vlogging, this should be it. I'd love to see us - as a group - take that piece of subject video and edit it to say various things using motion picture techniques. XO, Jan On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:supercanadian%40gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks, Raymond! I believe Google's CEO Eric Schmidt made some comment about video on the web being viral -- and it seems true in more ways than he may have intended. Lisa lisaharper.org On 11/26/06, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, there is a copy of the media here, it seems:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JGlvEcPmug I have watched through it, and it seems like it is identical with the original file on youtube. Thank heaven someone is spreading the media out there. Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen dltq.org On 11/26/06, Lisa Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] lisah2u%40gmail.com wrote: Anyone save it? I tried forwarding it to someone today and got the same message from Youtube... Lisa On 11/25/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]richard%40richardshow.com richard%40richardshow.com wrote: Interewsting ... says video removed by user ... On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hello, That's a good example of one of the problems with Flash video players versus actual video. You can't save and preserve Flash video players. But you can save and preserve actual video files. See ya On 11/25/06, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, there is a copy of the media here, it seems:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JGlvEcPmug I have watched through it, and it seems like it is identical with the original file on youtube. Thank heaven someone is spreading the media out there. Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen dltq.org On 11/26/06, Lisa Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone save it? I tried forwarding it to someone today and got the same message from Youtube... Lisa On 11/25/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]richard%40richardshow.com wrote: Interewsting ... says video removed by user ... On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
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Hey Harold, On 11/20/06, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I was in that library last week; as usual, nobody asked for any type of identification or anything. I've no complaint about that; I'm just noting the fact. I've been in this library perhaps a hundred times since I graduated, and don't recall an occasion in which I was carded. Perhaps the library is open to the public; I don't know. Just an FYI for anyone interested here. This an interesting story, to say the least, and I appreciate your making us aware of it, Jay. IMO, there's probably a bit of (or perhaps alot of) useful information we're not getting here. I've seen some of the characters who hang out in this library (me, for example!) -- and on campus, in general -- and though the campus *feels* quite safe, there are enough homeless hanging around to have the UCPD patrol the library from time to time. I'm not trying to generalize about the homeless here, many of whom I talk to regularly -- but some of my homeless friends are somewhat touched, so to speak. Certainly they can be distracting to anyone trying to study -- if not downright unpleasant to be around. (Take my schizophrenic fellow, calm on most days, punching ghosts on others.) What I think is important here is perhaps the most obvious: that this story demonstrates how personal video can fill in the gaps, to a certain extent, on many events -- but that does not imply that video records the Truth. I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya Video can certainly provide more information regarding an event, yet it can also dramatize and perhaps skew perception of the event. By no means, however, would I advocate suppressing this time of evidence; I simply feel that it should be accepted with a grain of salt. It's too easy to be swayed by video, allowing it to hold more weight than other evidence. My opinion, Harold http://somethingthathappened.com On 11/20/06, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, my. I've spent many long hours in that very library... Harold On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
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Interewsting ... says video removed by user ... On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Anyone save it? I tried forwarding it to someone today and got the same message from Youtube... Lisa On 11/25/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interewsting ... says video removed by user ... On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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FYI, there is a copy of the media here, it seems:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JGlvEcPmug I have watched through it, and it seems like it is identical with the original file on youtube. Thank heaven someone is spreading the media out there. Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen dltq.org On 11/26/06, Lisa Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone save it? I tried forwarding it to someone today and got the same message from Youtube... Lisa On 11/25/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]richard%40richardshow.com wrote: Interewsting ... says video removed by user ... On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Example of how video could change things
Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790
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I'm speechless. On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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How many times did they Tazer that guy?! I counted at least 3, which my military police officer ex-boyfriend tells me is against police procedure as it can do lasting damage. I'm not sure whether to vomit or cry. I definitely hope he sues the guards and the school, and as a non-litigious Canadian that's saying a lot about the severity of the crime. Nox -- Vox Noxi (blog) -- noxdineen.vox.com Blair Bitch Project (vlog) -- www.blairbitchproject.net On 11/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm speechless. On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have read how a recent California student was tasered by security guards lets see how the story plays out. Text: http://www.nysun.com/article/43718 UCLA Officer Shocks Student With Stun Gun A UCLA police officer shocked a student with a stun gun at a campus library after he refused repeated requests to show student identification and wouldn't leave, police said. The student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, was shocked Tuesday at about 11 p.m. as police did a routine check of student IDs at the University of California , Los Angeles Powell Library computer lab. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I Now.. text is extremely important because it allows us to discuss the depth and subtleties of a story. But just watch the video taken by a fellow student using her videophone and uploaded to the web. The video shows the real drama behind the incident that usually gets washed over in text stories. Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ __ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ __ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
