[videoblogging] Re: Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They?
I saw a clip on MSNBC website of a embassy person from Spain being excorted by Armed National Guardmen from the Superdome. It reminded of the movie Hotel Rwanda where white embassy people are evacuated and black refugees plea for help but are ignored by the UN soldiers. The Spanish gentlemen commented that the conditions inside the Superdome resembled a Nazi concentartion camp. Even the foreigner who could care less felt that negligence of the US government to this growing crisis is leading to small scale genocide.(no this is not in reference to Sudan in a city within The United States) I don't use the word genocide lightly, if folks don't get off their but innocent people will surely die. its that simple. Things aren't getting better, there're getting worst. Where is the outcry from the decent people in this country for their fellow citizens. One things for sure the terrorist are loving this. And its giving them another weapon in their arsenal, racial and class division. (the politicans have been using this for years) Jay --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both firefox and IE (since occasionally you can't call up a page in firefox). I got a bad link on both of them. Very frustrating. I can, however, get rocketboom. -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Video: http://basykes.blip.tv/ Video: http://www.ourmedia.org/user/24663 Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Kunga To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They? http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm works for me. Also http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/ plays footage from a helicopter today. Both very compelling to me. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley http://FutureMedia.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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There has been massive radio silence from me on this issue. I have thought about the issue, done my share of reading blogs and trying to stay connected to the questoins, but I have not been outspoken about my own take on this. Deirdre, I am sorry for my behaviour in the flash conference. I just couldn't connect to the Katrina issue at that point. I hope your cousin is ok. The UN has offered the US to help, to give aid, but so far the US has not asked for help. (As far as I know) I am SHOCKED. Shocked by how the media portrays this situation. Shocked by how the authorities are dealing with the situation. Also, I am shocked with the Rocketboom story on this yesterday. Yes, what if it was someone we knew that had lost everything they owned? Someone we know, or can identify with? Is it that fucking hard to identify with babies dehydrated or old women about to die from dehydration? I thank Andrew and Amanda for doing it the way they did. It was cheesy as hell, and I am still not sure I liked it, but it brought forth a few issues that I wouldn't have felt as strongly without seeing this. I am ashamed of the US on this. Ashamed of the stories of busses staying outside New Orleans because the bus drivers are concerned with safety. WTF?! What The Fuck?! Is the US a third world country? I suppose it is. It is, if you are black, if you have low socio-economic status. I so much wanted to avoid the question of race or material wealth. For days I looked for signs that this was just bad planning on the side of the authorities. But now I see a huge chunk of the ugly, ugly side of the United States of America. What can we do as vloggers? We can do art about this, like Amanda did. Art to promote the political story. We can worry about people wanting to get food and water and calling that looting. (I saw a blog post comparing the wording of looting versus finding food in mainstream media. Guess five times if race was a factor) I am shocked with just how bad the situation is in the US. With how cruel your society has become. I feel sick to my guts about this. This has become a huge stain in the reputation of the US in the world. (I can only speak for myself, though). Even Iran lets the international community enter when they are experiencing a tragedy. But nono, not the US. They can procrastinate on their own. Best regards, Raymond M. Kristiansen http://dltq.org ps. I mean no disrespect to any Americans on this, but seriously: The situation is pretty fucked up. On 9/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry that might come off hostile It just burns methat people because their socio-economic status are asked to endure more the rest of America.It seems that we'renot only witnessing the death of a great US city but ofAmerica itself and all that it promised to its citizenand the world. Amen, brother. I was in India when the floods hit Mumbai and the surrounding region; at least 1200 people died within a couple of days, some hundreds more two weeks later when the flood-causes epidemics hit (I go to Mumbai just in time for that part). But there was no looting in Mumbai. Some of the people who later died of leptospirosis got it because they spent hours upon hours in the water helping others. And, although government response left much to criticize, it could have been a whole lot worse. So which is the Third-World country? It will be the supremest irony of all when India offers aid for the victims of Katrina. I can think of one big factor that might make the difference: India's hundreds of millions of poor people VOTE. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan SPONSORED LINKS Rss reader Fireant Internet directory Individual Free rss reader YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They?
Even the mainstream media(NBC ABC) are beginning to see the situation for what it is. Ask yourself how bad can the situation be that unarmed reporters can go into the downtown area and the SUperdome and not get bumrushed? (mind you there's no central authority there except civilians) If folks were wilding out like the way they say in the news you think you hear about reporters and camera men getting beatup and robbed.(I'm sure no one has even thought about that) To me it seems like folks are willing to believe the worst when the refugees are poor. Even the media is beginning to edmit that half off of the stuff that their reporting as fact is hearsay. The types of questions that America fears is beginning to be asked. Is America brave enough to confront its true self in the mirror. Neo? Will it be the red pill or the blue pill? Life is surely stranger than fiction. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathanial Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look like Current.Tv has the first, true videoblog-style post of a rescue effort: http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm Kunga wrote: Yeah especially if you use a Mac. NO CAN VIEW. CHOPE -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They?
Reporters are getting attacked, and the very few who are operating downtown have private security (armed) escorts (at least one fair and balanced network does). The situation is the same as Los Angeles 4/28/92-5/2/92, looters are firing at cameras so as not to be photographed doing whatever, But mostly folks are trying to survive. No I'm not there, but I have been speaking directly to folks who are. It is a surreal situation, but unfortunately no longer an uncommon one. It usually takes around a week for everyone to come to their senses... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Its A Mystery and So Im I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even the mainstream media(NBC ABC) are beginning to see the situation for what it is. Ask yourself how bad can the situation be that unarmed reporters can go into the downtown area and the SUperdome and not get bumrushed? (mind you there's no central authority there except civilians) If folks were wilding out like the way they say in the news you think you hear about reporters and camera men getting beatup and robbed.(I'm sure no one has even thought about that) To me it seems like folks are willing to believe the worst when the refugees are poor. Even the media is beginning to edmit that half off of the stuff that their reporting as fact is hearsay. The types of questions that America fears is beginning to be asked. Is America brave enough to confront its true self in the mirror. Neo? Will it be the red pill or the blue pill? Life is surely stranger than fiction. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathanial Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look like Current.Tv has the first, true videoblog-style post of a rescue effort: http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm Kunga wrote: Yeah especially if you use a Mac. NO CAN VIEW. CHOPE -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Sep 2, 2005, at 7:27 AM, R. Kristiansen wrote: What The Fuck?! Is the US a third world country? I suppose it is. It is, if you are black, if you have low socio-economic status. Yes. In the U.S, if you are poor and black and live in the South in a small city, you are not anywhere near as important than if you are white, rich, and work in at a Wall Street brokerage firm in the largest and one of the top two or three most power cities. In response to 9-11 the entire U.S. shut down. People didn't work for days and days. We (those of us not in NYC) all went to work, but we all moved really slowly, in a daze, sad and overwhelmed. There were no regular television shows on t.v. -- every single show was pulled to make space for news reports. For the only time in my life, there were no television commercials, not one, for days. It seemed wrong, immoral, for there to be regular commercial television. In the days following 9-11, profit was unimportant. For those first three days, only love mattered, life, and family. It seemed wrong, and impossible, for any of us, even those thousands of miles away, try to live our lives life like nothing was happening in New York. So life as usual stopped. We all needed time to figure out what it all meant. Events were cancelled. Regularly schedule meetings postponed. Everything was put on hold. We all felt the impact. We all feared, and watched, and hoped, and marveled at the good sides of human nature, and got really angry, and most of all talked and talked about what was going on. Our whole country changed that week. But this time is different. The people of this country are reacting much much differently. Television is right on schedule, with all it's talk shows and game shows and reality tv. Reporters will talk on the radio for an hour about New Orleans, and then in the next hour, they'll interview an up-and-coming band about their new album and road tour. People are upset about the hurricane, and they are writing checks, and praying and wishing the best for New Orleans, but most everybody is doing so in the cracks of their normal every-day lives. I have yet to see one activity postponed, most conversations in the diner near my house have nothing to do with the Hurricane. It comes up, and then people talk about the football game that's coming up or their son's birthday party. Yet, in many ways, this disaster is much much worse than 9-11. The trauma is happening, still, as I write this. The World Center bombing and the collapse of the buildings happened fast. It happened in a contained area. Survivors were able to run from the horror, and then go home and take a shower and freak out in the arms of their family, while eating and getting something to drink. What happened to people who lived through 9-11 was horrendous. Don't misunderstand me and think I am downplaying it. No -- what I'm asking you to do is realize how much worse this disaster is. This is DAY FIVE of the actual traumatic event. Imagine if the buildings in New York had been falling down for five days. Imagine if the fire had spread and traveled throughout all of New York City, burning for days and days with no end in site. THAT is what is happening right now in New Orleans. People are still in danger. People are still being traumatized. People are still dying. Thousands of people are waiting on rooftops or trapped in buildings to be rescued. Thousands. Tens of thousands have been rescued, only waiting in insane danger, needing to be rescued again. People are being raped and murdered, and the people who are trapped there know it and are living in incredible fear. Tens of thousands of people are trying to figure out how to take care of themselves in a world of chaos, knowing there is nowhere to turn for help. People are sitting in huge lines, at designated areas, waiting for help, dying for lack of water while people around them try to help, horrified, watching them die. It's been DAYS -- and where is the help from the U.S. government? I hear reports like -- help is on the way! Six trucks will be arriving with water. Six?? How about 600? This country has the resources to have flown in there on Tuesday and helped everyone. We have the military, the skills, the training, the equipment, the stockpiles of supplies. What we don't have is the will-power from the right people. We don't have the clarity or desire. I understand that Bush and other people in power care about money more than anything, and used 9-11 to rally public support to go into Iraq, both taking over a huge oil business, and meanwhile selling billions of dollars of weapons technologies to the federal and local governments all over our country. It doesn't surprise me that CNN was spending like 50% of it's time covering the rising gasoline costs, preparing people culturally to accept the jump in prices, and that it took the major news media days to publicize what is really
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They?
Right there with you, Jen, and I'd feel the same even if I had no personal ties to New Orleans. I am sick and angry and afraid of what will happen next. - best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.straughan.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Bush proved your point earlier I see. He mentioned Trent Lotts house being rebuilt before he mentioned New Orleans being rebuilt. His initial focus on New Orleans was all about zero tollerance and restoring law and order. Do you think Bush gets a kick from rubbing peoples faces in the reality? Todays comments remind me of other Bush statements such as the time a woman told him she worked 3 jobs, and he went on about how great that was, what great things that said about America. Then he could not help himself and added 'get any sleep?'. Or how about his classic performance along the lines of 'this is an impressive gathering. The have's, and the have more's. Some people call you the elite, I call you my base' Back to the concept of all life not being treated equal. Another example would be Iraq. Theres a bloke whose been protesting outside the UK parliament all day every day for years now. They showed a clip of him on the news once saying 'is my life worth more than a man from Iraq? Is it?'. Feelings like this have been known to cross my mind when I consider the imbalance between anti-war energy stirred by dead US troops compared to dead Iraqi civilians. Its human nature, its not something unique to the USA. But it does, at least from TV footage and the net, appear to be a more noticable phenomenon in the USA than Europe at this point in history. The rocketboom thing left me confused and feeling that it went wrong in idea or execution in some way. I guess I wanted to know the exact source of the words Amanda was speaking. But Bush's speech left me livid, and the fact he's not visited New Orleans, and then hearing the New Orleans mayors desperate plea's made me even more upset. The usual feeling of helplessness overwhelms me. Id give money if it could have speeded up the relief effort in the key days since the tragedy began to unfold, but I dont know how money or all the words in the world on the internet could have made them respond to the scale of things properly and quickly enough to avoid so much death. Not this time anyway, but all the words and peoples desire to help could prevent this sort of thing happening again in the future. Apologies in advance for any mistakes I have made due to not being from the USA and so not being so well qualified to understand this stuff and your politics. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. In the U.S, if you are poor and black and live in the South in a small city, you are not anywhere near as important than if you are white, rich, and work in at a Wall Street brokerage firm in the largest and one of the top two or three most power cities. In response to 9-11 the entire U.S. shut down. People didn't work for days and days. We (those of us not in NYC) all went to work, but we all moved really slowly, in a daze, sad and overwhelmed. There were no regular television shows on t.v. -- every single show was pulled to make space for news reports. For the only time in my life, there were no television commercials, not one, for days. It seemed wrong, immoral, for there to be regular commercial television. In the days following 9-11, profit was unimportant. For those first three days, only love mattered, life, and family. It seemed wrong, and impossible, for any of us, even those thousands of miles away, try to live our lives life like nothing was happening in New York. So life as usual stopped. We all needed time to figure out what it all meant. Events were cancelled. Regularly schedule meetings postponed. Everything was put on hold. We all felt the impact. We all feared, and watched, and hoped, and marveled at the good sides of human nature, and got really angry, and most of all talked and talked about what was going on. Our whole country changed that week. But this time is different. The people of this country are reacting much much differently. Television is right on schedule, with all it's talk shows and game shows and reality tv. Reporters will talk on the radio for an hour about New Orleans, and then in the next hour, they'll interview an up-and-coming band about their new album and road tour. People are upset about the hurricane, and they are writing checks, and praying and wishing the best for New Orleans, but most everybody is doing so in the cracks of their normal every-day lives. I have yet to see one activity postponed, most conversations in the diner near my house have nothing to do with the Hurricane. It comes up, and then people talk about the football game that's coming up or their son's birthday party. Yet, in many ways, this disaster is much much worse than 9-11. The trauma is happening, still, as I write this. The World Center bombing and the collapse of the buildings happened fast. It happened in a contained area. Survivors were able to run from the horror, and then go home and take a shower and freak out in the
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Apologies in advance for any mistakes I have made due to not beingfrom the USA and so not being so well qualified to understand this stuff and your politics. Steve of Elbows I think you're understanding it about as well as anybody can, 'cause it's completely baffling. I have a horrible feeling that we are watching something die in America, and it's not just New Orleans. Can't quite put my finger on what it is. Perhaps the dream that America was at least trying to be a place of liberty and justice for all. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.straughan.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Rss reader Fireant Internet directory Individual Free rss reader YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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liberty and justice for all. is a frame of mind, not a place. On 9/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies in advance for any mistakes I have made due to not being from the USA and so not being so well qualified to understand this stuff and your politics. Steve of Elbows I think you're understanding it about as well as anybody can, 'cause it's completely baffling. I have a horrible feeling that we are watching something die in America, and it's not just New Orleans. Can't quite put my finger on what it is. Perhaps the dream that America was at least trying to be a place of liberty and justice for all. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.straughan.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Rss reader Fireant Internet directory Individual Free rss reader YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On 9/2/05, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. In the U.S, if you are poor and black and live in the South in a small city, you are not anywhere near as important than if you are white, rich, and work in at a Wall Street brokerage firm in the largest and one of the top two or three most power cities. http://www.bullemhead.com/Government/best_and_brightest.html The worst part of this entire episode in our nation's history is that it could have easily been prevented. We aren't dealing with shady terrorist cells. The answer to most baffling questions about why terrible things happen can be found by following the money. Why weren't the levees built stronger? Why wasn't there a better evacuation plan? Why is equipment being transported out of hospitals in helicopters before humans? -- _ Quirk_ Bullemhead.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
