Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Very much so.On 6/5/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautifull.--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In The Myth of Sisyphus, Sisyphus, unfortunately, was in the wrong place at the wrong time and overheard secrets of the Gods fighting. So Sisyphus was punished to spend the rest of his life pushing a bolder up a mountain. When the bolder fell, or rolled over the other side of the mountain, Sisyphus must go back and start again, forever. Without a purpose for his life and without meaning for his activity, Sisyphus eventually noticed that there was a time when the bolder was on its own and he was descending the mountain effortlessly, noticing the beautiful flowers (so to speak), the birds' songs and the comfortable cool breeze and that this was his time. The determined duty was aside and the time, however absurd, was all that much worthwhile and especially, free. On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Shannon Noble wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ and ponder. -shannonSPONSORED LINKS Fireant IndividualTypepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free.See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
I don't know why anyone should feel inferior because their video blog isheaven forbid!entertaining. I just got this comment a couple of days ago: Great stuff ... Ya got me hooked! I'm a big fan, I check for the new episode every day. ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com So should I feel guilty for being so shallow that I'm thrilled someone appreciates my hard work? --Greg http://projectworkingstiff.com/WorkingStiffBlog/nfblog/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
I am so tempted to respond. And where this a group on linguistics, philosophy or such, I would :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually get in on these, but this one really intrigues me ... plus, I'm trying to avoid doing my monthly family finances, which is always a creative adventure ... On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing NEEDS context. ... For a thing to be a thing it needs context. What is a thing? I couldn't tell you unless I had context, you see. None of any of this makes sense without context. It seems like you are trying to say vlogs are bad because they are interpreted within some context (they are enculturated) ... This is the same as saying, vlogs are perceived. There is this fundamental process, where an object impinges on a sense organ - from than instant the signal is translated into a neural signal, and intensely manipulated, and eventually it is labeled - it is given meaning probably someone in association areas of the cortext (in class, I used to say then a miracle happens). There is nothing that can be labeled or given meaning that is not enculterated. The best we can do - the only thing we can do - is to recognize that this process of subjective perception is reality. What we think of as objective and emperical is ultimately consensus. you begin falacy at that point. as well as personal manipulation, in order to control your world around you. ... I guess I would want to know which part of Shannon's thinking/agurments/perception would NOT be classified as personal manipulation ... everything I'm saying and perceiving here is certainly personal manipulation ... I can't imagine how it could be otherwise ... langauge is a tool. used to manipulate in order to get what you want. I'm pretty sure what you wrote above would constitute language, so, it follows ... well, you know ... ... I would say that language is the great and fundamental abstraction tool that allows us to function in the world ... and have interesting discussions like this, I might add ... ... well, that was fun ... Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com Save the Internet - Preserve Network Neutrality! http://www.savetheinternet.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Well, let's bring it up again at Vloggercon after I have been thoroughly enculturated via a few beers from Schlomo's bar ... Richard On 6/4/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so tempted to respond. And where this a group on linguistics, philosophy or such, I would :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually get in on these, but this one really intrigues me ... plus, I'm trying to avoid doing my monthly family finances, which is always a creative adventure ... On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing NEEDS context. ... For a thing to be a thing it needs context. What is a thing? I couldn't tell you unless I had context, you see. None of any of this makes sense without context. It seems like you are trying to say vlogs are bad because they are interpreted within some context (they are enculturated) ... This is the same as saying, vlogs are perceived. There is this fundamental process, where an object impinges on a sense organ - from than instant the signal is translated into a neural signal, and intensely manipulated, and eventually it is labeled - it is given meaning probably someone in association areas of the cortext (in class, I used to say then a miracle happens). There is nothing that can be labeled or given meaning that is not enculterated. The best we can do - the only thing we can do - is to recognize that this process of subjective perception is reality. What we think of as objective and emperical is ultimately consensus. you begin falacy at that point. as well as personal manipulation, in order to control your world around you. ... I guess I would want to know which part of Shannon's thinking/agurments/perception would NOT be classified as personal manipulation ... everything I'm saying and perceiving here is certainly personal manipulation ... I can't imagine how it could be otherwise ... langauge is a tool. used to manipulate in order to get what you want. I'm pretty sure what you wrote above would constitute language, so, it follows ... well, you know ... ... I would say that language is the great and fundamental abstraction tool that allows us to function in the world ... and have interesting discussions like this, I might add ... ... well, that was fun ... Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com Save the Internet - Preserve Network Neutrality! http://www.savetheinternet.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com Save the Internet - Preserve Network Neutrality! http://www.savetheinternet.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
My thinking too (though I wasn't considering the libation portion.)
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, let's bring it up again at Vloggercon after I have been
thoroughly enculturated via a few beers from Schlomo's bar ... Richard
On 6/4/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am so tempted to respond. And where this a group on linguistics,
philosophy or such, I would :)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
richard@ wrote:
I don't usually get in on these, but this one really intrigues
me ...
plus, I'm trying to avoid doing my monthly family finances, which is
always a creative adventure ...
On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote:
nothing NEEDS context.
... For a thing to be a thing it needs context. What is a
thing?
I couldn't tell you unless I had context, you see. None of any
of this
makes sense without context.
It seems like you are trying to say vlogs are bad because they are
interpreted within some context (they are enculturated) ...
This is
the same as saying, vlogs are perceived.
There is this fundamental process, where an object impinges on a
sense
organ - from than instant the signal is translated into a neural
signal, and intensely manipulated, and eventually it is
labeled - it
is given meaning probably someone in association areas of the
cortext
(in class, I used to say then a miracle happens).
There is nothing that can be labeled or given meaning that is not
enculterated.
The best we can do - the only thing we can do - is to recognize that
this process of subjective perception is reality.
What we think of as objective and emperical is ultimately
consensus.
you begin falacy at that point. as well as personal manipulation,
in order
to control your world around you.
... I guess I would want to know which part of Shannon's
thinking/agurments/perception would NOT be classified as personal
manipulation ... everything I'm saying and perceiving here is
certainly personal manipulation ... I can't imagine how it
could be
otherwise ...
langauge is a tool.
used to manipulate in order to get what you want.
I'm pretty sure what you wrote above would constitute
language, so, it follows ... well, you know ...
... I would say that language is the great and fundamental
abstraction
tool that allows us to function in the world ... and have
interesting
discussions like this, I might add ...
... well, that was fun ... Richard
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
There's nothing here to vlog. Every six months or so, Shannon likes to start a flame war. It's an entertaining peccadillo, and whoever bites, bites . Jan McLaughlin wrote: Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it. If you will be so kind. Jan SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
peccadillogood word!On 6/2/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing here to vlog. Every six months or so, Shannon likes to start a flame war. It's an entertaining peccadillo, and whoever bites, bites . Jan McLaughlin wrote: Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it.If you will be so kind.Jan SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Shannon is to myopia as X is to Yor maybe Bengay is to muscle cramps?Fuck Bengay, btw. Minty bullshit.On 6/3/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peccadillogood word! On 6/2/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing here to vlog. Every six months or so, Shannon likes to start a flame war. It's an entertaining peccadillo, and whoever bites, bites . Jan McLaughlin wrote: Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it.If you will be so kind.Jan SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Okay, I'll bite. The reason our small glimpses into our lives are just as important as the carnage that is happening in Iraq is because it's all HISTORY. Five hundred years from now, historians are going to be looking at our vlogs trying to fathom what life was like during our time. We are going to be the journals that document ordinary life just like Jane Austen's writing documented Victorian England. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The editing and narration of that piece is propagandizing a point of view on the war. Statements like ...the most dangerous country in the world. could probably be disproven. One can compare the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan and other locales. Perhaps it is propaganda, but it certainly is a lot closer to the truth then we see on network television. We are not receiving the full story on the war and what we see on the tube is being sanitized for public view. If major networks were to show the ugly side of war, this thing would be over. There would be such a large public outcry to end the war, the politions would have no other choice but to end this situation. Power to the vloggers. Mike SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
In fact, when we look back, we'll be looking at vlogs to get a better representation of the truth of the time then we will by viewing the video archives of television. Vloggers are closer to true then TV will be allowed. Power to the vloggers. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'll bite. The reason our small glimpses into our lives are just as important as the carnage that is happening in Iraq is because it's all HISTORY. Five hundred years from now, historians are going to be looking at our vlogs trying to fathom what life was like during our time. We are going to be the journals that document ordinary life just like Jane Austen's writing documented Victorian England. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ panisset@ and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Mr. Hope is full of good words. I'm keeping track since he brought 'weasel words' to our collective attention. (wikipedia 'weasel words' if you missed that reference) Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media On Jun 2, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Anne Walk wrote: peccadillo good word! On 6/2/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's nothing here to vlog. Every six months or so, Shannon likes to start a flame war. It's an entertaining peccadillo, and whoever bites, bites . Jan McLaughlin wrote:Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it. If you will be so kind. Jan SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Yes! That's beautifully said. Thanks! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is the stories that we tell that are important. It is the attempt of one person trying to convey narrative to another. That has an spiritual value. It can have a base level one too. It doesn't matter if the stories are profound or silly. Meaning changes over time anyway. It is important that we communicate to those that come after us that we had a particular view of our world - here it is, this is what I see. It is no different that the griots sitting around telling the tales of the ancestors or the cave paintings or the etchings in pottery. It is no different that what countless writers, artists and future-sighted people do. That is how we (humans) build communities - by knowing each others stories. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ panisset@ and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Did you read the same message I read? I think Casey's point may have been that after pouring her heart and soul into her work/art/videoblog to the point of exhaustion, it does not feel good to have it called shallow. That's not meaningless. So you think videoblogging is shallow. So what? You are entitled to your opinion, but I care more about Casey's lack of sleep than that any day. If your burned out on videoblogging, go find something else to do. There are plenty of options. Monika http://nurse2be.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prime example. casey steps up to the bat. takes a meaningless swing. does anyone here care about casey's lack of sleep? if so. so what? casey only stepped in to make a point that casey exists. after two hours of sleep. On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Sully. I understand what Shannon is getting at, but after two hours of sleep due to working my ass off filming/editing/compressing, it's just not what I'm interested in hearing about... Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
We go to the news to see the state of the world... but, in fact, a better pulse would be vlogs, if more people had them. Look how important Pepys is today -- and all he kept was a daily diary that talked about the everyday happenings in his life. I look forward to the time when vlogging is easy as taking a pen to paper. Lisa http://lisaharper.org On 6/3/06, Mike Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, when we look back, we'll be looking at vlogs to get a better representation of the truth of the time then we will by viewing the video archives of television. Vloggers are closer to true then TV will be allowed. Power to the vloggers. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'll bite. The reason our small glimpses into our lives are just as important as the carnage that is happening in Iraq is because it's all HISTORY. Five hundred years from now, historians are going to be looking at our vlogs trying to fathom what life was like during our time. We are going to be the journals that document ordinary life just like Jane Austen's writing documented Victorian England. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ panisset@ and ponder. -shannon Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Wow, a lot of imaginative work went into that. That's right R2. We're going to Bodega Bay. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bev Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to me, my father's 8mm films hold endless amounts of meaning (I never knew him, and now i can feel a connection, and know something more about him) to you they may seem like crappy videos of boring people walking in a lake or leaving for prom... they are meaningless to you To me those videos are extremely significant to the rest of the world, nothing would change if they didn't exist. I'm glad to see someone send this. I have stopped making videos for anybody but me. I've accepted that I have no desire to be a roving reporter, and, having uncovered a wealth of home movies that my kids made when they were learning how to use a camera, it gives me tremendous pleasure to make videos like Star Warts: The Remake of the Jedi ( http://blip.tv/file/get/Basykes-RemakeOfTheJediPart1964.mov) available to a wider audience, even if it's only an audience of 2 or 3) -Bev Sykes http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com http://www.funnytheworld.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Thanks for watching it, Eric. They worked a long time on it. I'll be posting Part 2 (which is shorter) tomorrow. Unfortunately, they never finished it.On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, a lot of imaginative work went into that.That's right R2.We're going to Bodega Bay.;)--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bev Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to me, my father's 8mm films hold endless amounts of meaning (Inever knew him, and now i can feel a connection, and know something more about him) to you they may seem like crappy videos of boring people walkingin a lake or leaving for prom... they are meaningless to you To me those videos are extremely significant to the rest of the world, nothing would change if they didn't exist. I'm glad to see someone send this.I have stopped making videos foranybody but me.I've accepted that I have no desire to be a roving reporter, and, having uncovered a wealth of home movies that my kids made when theywere learning how to use a camera, it gives me tremendous pleasure tomake videos like Star Warts:The Remake of the Jedi ( http://blip.tv/file/get/Basykes-RemakeOfTheJediPart1964.mov)available to a wider audience, even if it's only an audience of 2 or 3) -Bev Sykes http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com http://www.funnytheworld.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bev Sykeshttp://funnytheworld.comHappiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
The absolute is the relative. For example, I'm typing at my wooden table, which at one point was a tree seed. Earlier, I stood on to get to a picture on a wall, so I guess I used it as a ladder. For a termite, my wooden desk is dinner. If you can say the relative is absolute, that's alright too. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shannon is to myopia as X is to Y or maybe Bengay is to muscle cramps? Fuck Bengay, btw. Minty bullshit. On 6/3/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peccadillo good word! On 6/2/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing here to vlog. Every six months or so, Shannon likes to start a flame war. It's an entertaining peccadillo, and whoever bites, bites . Jan McLaughlin wrote: Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it. If you will be so kind. Jan SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=WCpOSpSwoYO432IaYB1XiQ Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=hFHM3V_4GtbmWeTN5iA9ig Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=_ro7JDo9ahztIvpG_ELM7A Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=Bv8zKzTXVJwkBZ1KcmF_KQ Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=pWcuDK4cvHNOMSasJvZAzA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Servicehttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=WCpOSpSwoYO432IaYB1XiQ Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=hFHM3V_4GtbmWeTN5iA9ig Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=_ro7JDo9ahztIvpG_ELM7A Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=Bv8zKzTXVJwkBZ1KcmF_KQ Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=pWcuDK4cvHNOMSasJvZAzA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
these are things i think about all of the time. thanks for sharing the thought, shannon.On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bad link. try again.something wacky occured.http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know,sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/and ponder.-shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Well said, Sully. I understand what Shannon is getting at, but after two hours of sleep due to working my ass off filming/editing/compressing, it's just not what I'm interested in hearing about... Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is everything needs context. shallow and meaningless could equate to therapeutic entertainment value to someone on some day. seinfeld andbody? else, it could be a fresh awareness of the fact that the world is 99% bullshit and how frustrating that is. shallow and meaningless bleeds into so many world governmental actions as much as it bleeds into some random vlog. shallow and meaningless are dynamic based on mood and personality. On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=WCpOSpSwoYO432IaYB1XiQ Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=hFHM3V_4GtbmWeTN5iA9ig Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=_ro7JDo9ahztIvpG_ELM7A Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=Bv8zKzTXVJwkBZ1KcmF_KQ Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Typepadw4=Usew5=Explainsc=5s=65.sig=pWcuDK4cvHNOMSasJvZAzA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. Fine We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. I disagree. A living human being is objectively true as alive. The meaning a human being develops relates to their purpose in being alive. It is all enculturated. Evidence studying the neocortex shows planning as a natural occurence in it's functioning -- not created by culture. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. There's significant creative proof that human beings are capable of much more than parasiticaly living off each other. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ponder. The editing and narration of that piece is propagandizing a point of view on the war. Statements like ...the most dangerous country in the world. could probably be disproven. One can compare the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan and other locales. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
It is the stories that we tell that are important. It is the attempt of one person trying to convey narrative to another. That has an spiritual value. It can have a base level one too. It doesn't matter if the stories are profound or silly. Meaning changes over time anyway. It is important that we communicate to those that come after us that we had a particular view of our world - here it is, this is what I see. It is no different that the griots sitting around telling the tales of the ancestors or the cave paintings or the etchings in pottery. It is no different that what countless writers, artists and future-sighted people do. That is how we (humans) build communities - by knowing each others stories. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. I feel that way when I look at something like this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ponder. -shannon SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Quite accusatory. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote everything needs context. nothing NEEDS context. you are putting a priority on that thought right now in order to get attention from this group. i don't intend that as a negative. only as a fact. shallow and meaningless could equate to therapeutic entertainment value to someone on some day. seinfeld andbody? else, it could be a fresh awareness of the fact that the world is 99% bullshit and how frustrating that is. equating a context as being bullshit steps into the realm of judgement. you begin falacy at that point. as well as personal manipulation, in order to control your world around you. shallow and meaningless bleeds into so many world governmental actions as much as it bleeds into some random vlog. government can be equated to the concept of tribalism. tribes my friend. tribes. shallow and meaningless are dynamic based on mood and personality. not so. these are only words. language. langauge is a tool. used to manipulate in order to get what you want. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
prime example.casey steps up to the bat.takes a meaningless swing.does anyone here care about casey's lack of sleep?if so. so what?casey only stepped in to make a point that casey exists. after two hours of sleep.On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Sully.I understand what Shannon is getting at, but aftertwo hours of sleep due to working my ass off filming/editing/compressing, it's just not what I'm interested inhearing about...Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much ofwhat we do is.Fineoh hell.not another acronym of an answer.FINE Fucked upInsecureNeurotic andEmotionalFINE.We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. I disagree.A living human being is objectively true as alive.Themeaning a human being develops relates to their purpose in being alive.all conjecture. It is all enculturated.Evidence studying the neocortex shows planning as a natural occurencein it's functioning -- not created by culture.creating culture to control. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. There's significant creative proof that human beings are capable ofmuch more than parasiticaly living off each other.reiterate. not sure what you are saying here.you are heading the right direction though. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity. At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prime example. casey steps up to the bat. takes a meaningless swing. does anyone here care about casey's lack of sleep? Yes. if so. so what? casey only stepped in to make a point that casey exists. after two hours of sleep. On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Sully. I understand what Shannon is getting at, but after two hours of sleep due to working my ass off filming/editing/compressing, it's just not what I'm interested in hearing about... Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought and responded to critiques. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. Fine oh hell. not another acronym of an answer. FINE Fucked up Insecure Neurotic and Emotional FINE. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. I disagree. A living human being is objectively true as alive. The meaning a human being develops relates to their purpose in being alive. all conjecture. It is all enculturated. Evidence studying the neocortex shows planning as a natural occurence in it's functioning -- not created by culture. creating culture to control. We make it up for or own selves to get what we want from others. There's significant creative proof that human beings are capable of much more than parasiticaly living off each other. reiterate. not sure what you are saying here. you are heading the right direction though. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
why would i need you to validate me about what i think or respond too?this is a try at manipulation by you.whose values are we talking about here?yours?make a list. On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought andresponded to critiques.-- Enric SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
You're drawing conclusions that can be supported by text. You are infering the motive of manipulation and making the demand of making a list based on that inference. Such inferences go beyond the limitation of text messages like this -- assumptions are often made about people that go beyond what is written. And why often it is requested that a videoblog be made on a subject of discussion instead. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would i need you to validate me about what i think or respond too? this is a try at manipulation by you. whose values are we talking about here? yours? make a list. On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought and responded to critiques. -- Enric SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity. At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric I don't see a list of adjectives or nouns that say what you think videoblogging should be. Give us your list Enric. Tell us what videoblogging should be. For the benefit of Mr. Kite. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Most of the time most humans only want to be seen. It must be difficult to be evolved to the next step where you actually see others. Very lonely and painful indeed. Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media On Jun 2, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Shannon Noble wrote: prime example. casey steps up to the bat. takes a meaningless swing. does anyone here care about casey's lack of sleep? if so. so what? casey only stepped in to make a point that casey exists. after two hours of sleep. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it. If you will be so kind. Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Enric wrote: You're drawing conclusions that can be supported by text. You are infering the motive of manipulation and making the demand of making a list based on that inference. Such inferences go beyond the limitation of text messages like this -- assumptions are often made about people that go beyond what is written. And why often it is requested that a videoblog be made on a subject of discussion instead. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would i need you to validate me about what i think or respond too? this is a try at manipulation by you. whose values are we talking about here? yours? make a list. On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought and responded to critiques. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
i demand=ed nada. chump.I made salad. That's all.enric.On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding.-- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question:What does this have to do with videoblogging?I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity.At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric I don't see a list of adjectives or nouns that say what you think videoblogging should be. Give us your list Enric. Tell us what videoblogging should be. For the benefit of Mr. Kite. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Though this verbal jousting is somewhat entertaining, I don't think everyone will enjoy it. So I'll stop on here for now. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i demand=ed nada. chump. I made salad. That's all. enric. On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric enric@ wrote: Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity. At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric I don't see a list of adjectives or nouns that say what you think videoblogging should be. Give us your list Enric. Tell us what videoblogging should be. For the benefit of Mr. Kite. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
What i should say though is this, and I apologize for not acknowledging you earlier..I have no doubts about what you are saying here. Your thoughts are completely legitimate.I am grateful that you responded to my demands. That unto itself is worth a massive amount of respect. Very much so. Thank you Enric.-shannonOn 6/3/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i demand=ed nada. chump.I made salad. That's all.enric.On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding.-- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question:What does this have to do with videoblogging?I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity.At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric I don't see a list of adjectives or nouns that say what you think videoblogging should be. Give us your list Enric. Tell us what videoblogging should be. For the benefit of Mr. Kite. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
Huh. Now I'm confused. You say it's entertaining but no one will enjoy it? Who cares?Do you have a need for entertainment?Is that the purpose of videoblogging too?Too entertain? On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though this verbal jousting is somewhat entertaining, I don't thinkeveryone will enjoy it.So I'll stop on here for now. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
You're welcome Shannon. I actually quite enjoy discussing the nature of values, ethics, objectivity, subjectivity as philosophy. But that is not the endeavor of this group :) Thanks, Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What i should say though is this, and I apologize for not acknowledging you earlier.. I have no doubts about what you are saying here. Your thoughts are completely legitimate. I am grateful that you responded to my demands. That unto itself is worth a massive amount of respect. Very much so. Thank you Enric. -shannon On 6/3/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i demand=ed nada. chump. I made salad. That's all. enric. On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble shannon.sn@ wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric enric@ wrote: Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity. At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric I don't see a list of adjectives or nouns that say what you think videoblogging should be. Give us your list Enric. Tell us what videoblogging should be. For the benefit of Mr. Kite. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging
It's time to dance. ; --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh. Now I'm confused. You say it's entertaining but no one will enjoy it? Who cares? Do you have a need for entertainment? Is that the purpose of videoblogging too? Too entertain? On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though this verbal jousting is somewhat entertaining, I don't think everyone will enjoy it. So I'll stop on here for now. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
