[videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
is this possible? to create a feed that doesn't contain any reference to it's originating site? regards d YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
yes. On 8/6/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this possible? to create a feed that doesn't contain any reference to it's originating site? regards d Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 18:37:00 +0200, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this possible? to create a feed that doesn't contain any reference to it's originating site? Don't listen to Josh. :o) The channel level link element (The URL to the HTML website corresponding to the channel.) is *required* in RSS 2.0. So you *must* link your RSS feed to an HTML page. The item level link element is not required in RSS 2.0. So while you have to link your channel to a page each item doesn't need to have a corresponding web URL. In most cases it is fucking stupid *not* to provide such an URL, because if you don't people can't link to you. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
of course, yes. you can manually write your XML referencing media hosted all over the internet. their are many software apps and scripts that create RSS for you as well. dont need a blog. another example is over on videobloggers.org. right now, the only feature available for beta testers is 'media albums'. you upload media, and all flavors of xml get auto-generated. no blog required (though that part will also generate xml and be enabled in a few weeks). also, i am sure that other types of server-side software, like media galleries or file managers can all create RSS feeds for that content. sull On 8/6/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this possible?to create a feed that doesn't contain any reference to it's originating site?regardsd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--font face=arial size=-1a href="" http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hi6uf9f/M=362329.6886308.7839368.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123353421/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!/a./font~-Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com - on again off again vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
On 8/6/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. lol... ok. anychance you could elaborate? how does one go about doing this? SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
channel - true... i maybe misread... and thought he meant associating to his own site.. not any site. On 8/6/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 18:37:00 +0200, duncan speakman[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this possible? to create a feed that doesn't contain any reference to it's originating site?Don't listen to Josh. :o)The channel level link element (The URL to the HTML websitecorresponding to the channel.) is *required* in RSS 2.0. So you *must*link your RSS feed to an HTML page. The item level link element is not required in RSS 2.0. So while youhave to link your channel to a page each item doesn't need to have acorresponding web URL. In most cases it is fucking stupid *not* to provide such an URL, because if you don't people can't link to you.- Andreas--URL:http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--font face=arial size=-1a href="" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hf9igca/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123353954/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org"> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hf9igca/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123353954/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.orgGet Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to the Sweet Life -brought to you by One Economy/a./font~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com - on again off again vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
The channel level link element (The URL to the HTML website corresponding to the channel.) is *required* in RSS 2.0. is there a way to spoof this.. i.e. to put in a different url to the one that is actually generating the feed... In most cases it is fucking stupid *not* to provide such an URL, because if you don't people can't link to you. hard to explain right now.. but i have my reasons, all in the name of experimentation! d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 18:52:52 +0200, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The channel level link element (The URL to the HTML website corresponding to the channel.) is *required* in RSS 2.0. is there a way to spoof this.. i.e. to put in a different url to the one that is actually generating the feed... You can lie putting in http://www.example.com/ or soemthing else. But by doing so you devaluate RSS as a whole. If more people did that the channel level link would become useless for everyone because you can't trust its contents (making your a dumbass). Just put your website address there. Or create a new page for your experiment (describing what it's all about for example) and put the URL of that in the channel link. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
Sure, you can edit any data in your XML sheet. You could pull the parameter from anywhere (e.g. generate a random url, pick from a list, hard-code a constant) On Aug 6, 2005, at 12:52 PM, duncan speakman wrote: The channel level link element (The URL to the HTML website corresponding to the channel.) is *required* in RSS 2.0. is there a way to spoof this.. i.e. to put in a different url to the one that is actually generating the feed... In most cases it is fucking stupid *not* to provide such an URL, because if you don't people can't link to you. hard to explain right now.. but i have my reasons, all in the name of experimentation! d Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href="" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/ SIG=12hfchra2/M=362335.6886445.7839731.1510227/D=groups/ S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123354407/A=2894361/R=0/SIG=13jmebhbo/ *http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/education/digitaldivide/? source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide!/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
You can lie putting in http://www.example.com/ or soemthing else. it's not about being a lie, it's about why we assume videos need some kind of 'site' or homepage But by doing so you devaluate RSS as a whole. If more people did that the channel level link would become useless for everyone because you can't trust its contents well.. if it's already possible then how can we trust anything that is there already? i really think saying that me trying to make a feed without a hompage will devaluate RSS as a whole is somewhat overestimating my influence over the web! (making your a dumbass). thank you andreas, i'm glad we can ask questions without being slated. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
:-) There are numerous ways to autogenerate an RSS feed. You don't need a blog to do this, although it certainly makes RSS creation easier. One early example of RSS sans blog from the Podcasting world is Andrew Grumet's dir2rss script: http://grumet.net/weblog/archives/2004/09/12/001087.html All this does is create an RSS feed with enclosures for all the MP3 files in a given directory. This could be expanded to other file types too. There are other scripts that do similar stuff that you can probably find around the web. You could also simplly write RSS by hand if you choose. Its a little tricky because XML is not as forgiving as HTML. Start here with the RSS 2.0 spec: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Hope that clarifies... -Josh On 8/6/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/6/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. lol... ok. anychance you could elaborate? how does one go about doing this? Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
http://audioblog.com does this for audio or video On Aug 6, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: :-) There are numerous ways to autogenerate an RSS feed. You don't need a blog to do this, although it certainly makes RSS creation easier. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] creating rss without an associated site
These must follow the rules set down in the technical specifications or the system breaks down. So when the spec says 'you must include a link element which points to the HTML page for your channel', The HTML page for your channel does not need to be your blog. For instance, the NYTimes publishes several RSS feeds. They could make the channel link element point to the NYTimes.com homepage if they wanted (not sure if they do that), even though that page may not be directly the HTML page for that represents that channel. -josh On 8/6/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First I must apologize for my paranthesis. I debated whether to put it in or not, and decided to put it in for dramatic effect (and because there have been proposed some pretty stupid ideas on account on 'experimentation' in the past) figuring that you wouldn't be offended. I was in error, and I apologize for the offence. The issue here is a technical one. Computers rely on standards to speak with each other. These must follow the rules set down in the technical specifications or the system breaks down. So when the spec says 'you must include a link element which points to the HTML page for your channel', you better fucking do that. If you don't like the standard, get a new version adopted, use another standard, but don't send faulty data down the line. - Andreas On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 19:10:44 +0200, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can lie putting in http://www.example.com/ or soemthing else. it's not about being a lie, it's about why we assume videos need some kind of 'site' or homepage But by doing so you devaluate RSS as a whole. If more people did that the channel level link would become useless for everyone because you can't trust its contents well.. if it's already possible then how can we trust anything that is there already? i really think saying that me trying to make a feed without a hompage will devaluate RSS as a whole is somewhat overestimating my influence over the web! (making your a dumbass). thank you andreas, i'm glad we can ask questions without being slated. Yahoo! Groups Links -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
