A vs. A Redux has come to the attention of one of NewTeeVee, the new blog in
Om Malik's stable: http://newteevee.com/2006/12/15/andrew-vs-amanda-part-ii/
Not looking good, guys.
On 12/16/06, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amanda Congdon wrote:
Chuck, I am personally offended by
Amanda Congdon wrote:
Chuck, I am personally offended by that comment. Lady cats everywhere
should be outraged. My cat, Mattie,
Yadda, yadda, yadda...
Hey, isn't it about time that the Andrew and Amanda camps just declared
a score draw and applaud each other as they leave the field?
Oh boy, digging a deeper hole for yourself.
ABC News is exactly the people we were in deep talks with. ABC NEws
and ABC Family. Its all under Dinsey and we were in project talks
with all. You have just lied again, mark my words here. I will
release the document to my blog then.
The AAA
The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000
You landed the deal for $0.
Nice one.
On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract that
you hid from me?
As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was
meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for yourself.
Lie #2. Resolved.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
To: Thompson, Bryan [EMAIL
The best way to avoid factual statements is to ask questions.
On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
This proves what? That I (not you) had an HBO meeting and that I fired
my manager?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As you
Guys, this isn't helping either of you. My strong advice as a businesswoman
and (I hope) friend is DO NOT discuss this stuff here OR on your blogs. If I
were a potential sponsor watching all this, I'd be extremely uncomfortable
about the sensitive details getting batted around.
And that is the
On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
Moderators, where are you?
this one is sitting back watching this tread with great amusement.
thanks for the entertainment.
in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez shared. that was
the highlight.
i really haven't had time
: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Digital Buddha
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:49 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Andrew and Amada, I admire your work both when you were working together,
and now
I guess it has entertainment value for some, but they're hurting themselves
more than each other.
You know how in movies you see someone doing something really stupid and
wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or hurt, or killed? Like
when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in Desperate
Girls! Girls! You're ALL pretty!
On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Ryanne,
I think considering Andrew's onslaught of attacks have been unprovoked and
unsubstantiated, it might not be a bad idea to ban him. All I have ever
done is defend
myself.
--- In
Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
working out and holiday shopping...
Zennie
--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and
tantrums episode.
Paul
On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:
Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.
Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.
EOF
I would like to explain my method and thank you for providing a forum
in which to help.
I did not find this back-n-forth harmful, inappropriate or out of the
ordinary.
For me this is a
Amanda Congdon wrote:
I agree completely Deirdre. Where are the moderators?
Amanda,
The mods are working behind the scenes. I've been contacted off list and
asked not to post on the thread. I assume others have too.
--
Cheers,
Gary
http://www.garyshort.org/
Drew,
You da man, as far as I concerned.
Paul
On 16 Dec 2006, at 21:15, andrew michael baron wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.
Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.
EOF
I would like to explain my method and thank you for providing a forum
in which to
BBC!? You da man!
On Dec 16, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
Drew,
You da man, as far as I concerned.
Paul
On 16 Dec 2006, at 21:15, andrew michael baron wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.
Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.
EOF
I
Find your path, and share the joy! The People Of The
United Methodist Church.
--- Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from
the tears and
tantrums episode.
Paul
On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:
Meanwhile, Amanda
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of andrew michael baron
Sent: 14 December 2006 22:39
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Apparently, not having your own ideas runs in the family. ;)
Andrew, you
Den 15.12.2006 kl. 10:04 skrev Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Like I said though, I don't want to pour oil on troubled waters, as I
think we
are all tired of hearing about it - just please, get over yourself will
you?
If you don't want to pour water on troubled water, you should refrain
] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Apparently, not having your own ideas runs in the family. ;)
Andrew, you are really starting to get on my nerves now with this carping;
it is
so childish, it's like listening to my kids arguing over who has been
given the
most veg and how it's s unfair
True, but there comes a point when everyone gets sick of it and it produces
exactly the opposite of the sympathy and support you're looking for.
And it doesn't reflect well on anybody's professionality to be airing these
grievances here.
On 12/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If
How does it reflect upon justice?
http://yeastradio.podshow.com/?p=954
On 12/15/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True, but there comes a point when everyone gets sick of it and it
produces
exactly the opposite of the sympathy and support you're looking for.
And it doesn't
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Quirk
Sent: 15 December 2006 09:41
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
If I were wronged, be it in business or personal affairs, and the culprit
gets off
If you don't want to pour water on troubled water, you should refrain from
writing e-mails as the one I'm quoting here.
--
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/
You are probably correct, but then again it’s just so frustrating that so much
energy is being wasted on this
Den 15.12.2006 kl. 11:08 skrev Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You are probably correct, but then again it’s just so frustrating that
so much energy is being wasted on this feud. How much better would it be
if the same energy was being used to create something new and truly
innovative?
Gary, whats the point of telling me Im getting on your nerves? You
are doing exactly what Andrew Congdon did and I have no problem
speaking up about it and defending myself.
I think I provided a well rounded argument for disucssion about the
cost of doing business when merging established
: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of andrew michael baron
Sent: 15 December 2006 14:33
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Gary, whats the point of telling me Im getting on your nerves? You
are doing exactly what Andrew
@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of andrew michael baron
Sent: 15 December 2006 14:33
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Gary, whats the point of telling me Im getting on your nerves? You
are doing exactly what Andrew
December 2006 14:33
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Gary, whats the point of telling me Im getting on your nerves? You
are doing exactly what Andrew Congdon did and I have no problem
speaking up about
I know how it goes...
When Little Jerry Seinfeld (my former cat) and I started working together in
2005, we got off to a good start, but after starring in some of my most
popular videos, he demanded more from me. He wanted me to agree to a
contract where he would get a can of tuna a day, and a
I too was bothered by the ads - not the advertising per se, but rather the
length. That and the fact that it felt they were created for television and
not the web. There's a different style that works on the web and advertisers
have yet to figure it out.
In the long run, product placement will
But, sweetie, you're too old for him! grin
On 12/14/06, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I'd TOTALLY want to have Jerry Lee Lewis over for tea! I bet he's a
Formosa Oolong kind of guy.
B.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
Deirdre Straughan
On the topic of ABC's videoblog, I'm going to set aside all of the
technical problems everyone has already mentioned with the video
distribution and the ABC platform - the fact that there are no RSS
feeds, the comments are pre-approved and filtered (even when not
offensive), the video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_grapes
On 12/14/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the topic of ABC's videoblog, I'm going to set aside all of the
technical problems everyone has already mentioned with the video
distribution and the ABC platform - the fact that there
Apparently, not having your own ideas runs in the family. ;)
On Dec 14, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Andrew Congdon wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_grapes
On 12/14/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the topic of ABC's videoblog, I'm going to set aside all of the
Steve W.:
Perhaps a smarter strategy for them
would be to forget about getting direct advertising revenue from
Amanda's videos, and try to use it to drive more traffic to their site
overall.
I think you're very right.
I mean who ever went to their site otherwise?
joly
oh my mistake, I would add a creative comment that you would probably take
credit for but I don't want to encourage further public spectacle.
On 12/14/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apparently, not having your own ideas runs in the family. ;)
On Dec 14, 2006, at 4:54 PM,
It's not in your section, but a couple of things leaped out at me - the
usual affect instead of effect somewhere (which actually requires a
human copy editor) and there was another I don't remember now.
Congrats - the new show looks good! I'm mailing you separately a hometown
shot for your
The bottom of the page calls this thing we all live on the Iternet.
It's not too early to call it a rich-girl's rocketboom either. Call it
whatever you want, just don't call it entertaining, informative, or worth my
time.
On 12/13/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whats the
Amanda, I have always been outspoken about sharing my experiences
with Rocketboom and this is no longer an exception.
You can hide talking about it publicly, we see how that has led to
your advantage. As long as no one speaks up, you continue to lie and
mislead people about what you have
Y'know, if anyone else in the world had posted about their new videoblog
they were all excited about (and Amanda didn't even start this thread), 99%
of this group would at least try to be nice, no matter what we actually
thought of it, because we all believe videoblogging is important and want to
I dont want anything at all right now. I just want to talk about it.
I think its lame, that all. I have not filed a suit against Amanda.
If you had a business yourself and one of your partners left and took
all of your contacts and business relationships, your code, your
design and your
Great, easy.
Chuck, you are the man with the answer. It was the night before
Amanda posted her video. As our mediator, I told you I was going to
make a demand.
I said I was no longer negotiating and I demanded that Amanda come
into work on Monday and film a news day for Rocketboom.
Damn, now that Amanda Is back for another 15 minutes
maybe I should bring back Demanda Condom to my show.
Jimmy CraicHead TV
http://www.jchtv.com/
--- Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew, get a grip. Please.
This
In a message dated 12/13/2006 2:46:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In two and a half years on this group I have rarely, if ever, seen anyone
attack anyone else's work on whatever grounds. Disagree with content, points
of view, etc., but never be downright vicious.
For those that know me knows that I definitely do not have the
hippie/let's all get along/commune for artist thing. The rocketboom
brouhaha is nothing new, its typical business-as-usual. People work
together, people disagree, people get angry and lawyers are called.
It sucks for everyone
Good to see you on techie topics again Amanda, any chance
the RSS feed could be fixed so that I can subscribe with fireant
(Error parsing channel feed http://blogs.abcnews.com/amanda/index.rdf )
Ciao
Jez.
http://jez.blip.tv
--
Groovy Engineer
http://javanicus.com/blog2
[Non-text portions of
Right on Steve! I began to think Andrew was a real
schmuck when he posted the contract from Microsoft re
Zune on his blog.
JCH
http://www.jchtv.com/
--- Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow you still havent got over this? You still dont
recognise that this
whining makes you look like a
So why did you single out Amanda for this vitriol?
Only because she has lied to the public, specifically us in this group,
about the Rocketboom situation, and has underhandedly stolen our colleague
Andrew's hard work, time, and business contacts and passed them off as her
own.
I find it's
and then Andrew Called me, I hosted Rocketboom that day, Punched Oprah in
the face and demanded that Amanda and Mario make me a Pizza using only the
ingredients in my refrigerator!
Ok Who is next?
to everyone involved in this argument: please be quiet and let's just see
how things play out...
Damn! I knew we forgot something on the vlogEurope program!
On 12/13/06, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the end, though I'm not a hippie, I still like Group Hugs!
Group Hug!!!
--
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan
www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)
For those that know me knows that I definitely do not have the
hippie/let's all get along/commune for artist thing. The rocketboom
brouhaha is nothing new, its typical business-as-usual. People work
together, people disagree, people get angry and lawyers are called.
It sucks for everyone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuk99jFnN4
:)
sull
On 12/13/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Jez,
We will definitely have a subscription option. Right now they have one,
but it doesn't
support enclosures. This is my #1 priority.
Oh, and Adam, you are right. You don't
As I've said several times before, I was and remain determinedly agnostic
about this whole situation - I don't know or care who's right, and it may
not be possible for anyone short of some omniscient deity (and I don't
believe in one) to ever know the truth.
So you have taken sides and dislike
No RSS feed? No iTunes version? Flash video only, and the player
doesn't want to play in my browser.
Gosh, this video blogging stuff must really be scaring ABC, because
someone REALLY wants to keep me from watching it.
On Dec 13, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
That IS
It definitely has nothing to do with your level of intelligence or hair
color.
You're right though, it was a judgement call on my part, as it is with
anyone trying to decipher the truth from two opposing viewpoints. Luckily I
know Andrew well enough to make that a fairly easy decision.
As for
old Europe thinks that
htpp://www.youtube.com/v/vr3x_RRJdd4
Loiez
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
On 12/13/06, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuk99jFnN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGnYw-OuCnI
:)
sull
On 12/13/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]amanda%40amandacongdon.com
wrote:
Hey Jez,
We will definitely have a subscription
I agree, that was bad form. I will save any artistic critique for parody
videos and Evilvlog.
I feel like Charlie Watts is probably a decent guy.
On 12/13/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've said several times before, I was and remain determinedly
agnostic
about this
Le 13 déc. 06 à 22:48, Loiez D. a écrit :
old Europe thinks that
Sorry for the bugg
May be a good link here ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=vr3x_RRJdd4eurl=iurl=http%3A//
sjl-static7.sjl.youtube.com/vi/
vr3x_RRJdd4/2.jpgt=OEgsToPDskL8lSG6JLxr0KsY71BM1jlG
Loiez
(Copy and paste of
Deirdre:
Since it is ABC, I think the expectation is that the standards will
be higher.
But I can't comment on the video itself, since I can't watch it.
^*@ broken flash player.
-Peter
On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
Y'know, if anyone else in the world
Sorry Amanda, please don't think I'm piling on you.
It's just that a straw broke the camel's back.
Why must people keep talking about the MSM...
As if it's mainstream!
It's a Corporate Media, and there's nothing 'Mainstream' about it.
Mainstream media would have 5 second commercials and
Hey Ya! That was Brilliant!
Thanks Brett.
Nothing like a lil charlie brown to infiltrate an awkward thread :)
On 12/13/06, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/13/06, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuk99jFnN4
First time I tried it I just got the Ad and nothing else..
Reload worked.
My Yahoo! did accept the rtf.
I thought the production was cheezy compared to RB,
even the swing shotas were kind of mistimed. And
webpage screenshots in embedded flash are not
a good idea.
Competition is good, right?
This medium is going to be lost because people don't know how to talk
about it.
As if the Corporate Media is just going to give this shit away.
Language is a powerful tool, and the Corporate Media are masters at
manipulating it; that's what they do.
You can say MSM or Mainstream all you
On 12/13/06, Peter Leppik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deirdre:
Since it is ABC, I think the expectation is that the standards will
be higher.
LOL! All we do in this group is talk about how MSM sucks and we can do
better! Well, now one of our own gets to go and prove it.
But I can't
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