Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
For accuracy's sake, that was Richard BF you are quoting, not me. On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Kunga wrote: I think you need to take a step back and embrace the totality of all media and realize there is no us and them and know that all media are complementary and coexistent. In my mind, their video blog is not promoting anything at all. It simply IS and stands alone as great art and communication. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product. --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com My most recent post: VLOG SOUP: Episode 11 http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/02/vlog_soup_episo.html You are worth like 50 million danishes. - Amy Carpenter Alternative reply address: stephen.garfield [AT] comcast.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
They are listed under MySpace Film which is kinda like being listedunder MySpace Music, but in this case it looks like they get a sweet videoplayer. Yeah, the FEM story is really a myspace story - they were talking about how when they showed the film in festivals, 3/4 of the audience had heard about it from myspace, recommended from a friend. I think we miss the point of we start talking about how bloggy their content is or how divine it is, when what is happening is that they were able to build an audience, and eventually maybe theatrical distribution, from word of mouth. That is powerful. I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product. Not at all, Richard. These are FILMMAKERS using videoblogging to overcome the largest hurdle in the business: distribution. They're using a videoblog to attract attention and gain an audience, rather than selling their sole to a multinational to have their face plastered all over entertainment weekly. Its really great. Not everyone is interested in this medium for the same reasons (ie videoblogging for videobloggings sake), and I for one am glad that the ranks are diversifying. b ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.cahttp://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
Here. Here. Bravo. That is the point of my enthusiasm. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Brett Gaylor wrote: These are FILMMAKERS using videoblogging to overcome the largest hurdle in the business: distribution. They're using a videoblog to attract attention and gain an audience, rather than selling their sole to a multinational to have their face plastered all over entertainment weekly. Its really great. Not everyone is interested in this medium for the same reasons (ie videoblogging for videobloggings sake), and I for one am glad that the ranks are diversifying. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
I think you need to take a step back and embrace the totality of all media and realize there is no us and them and know that all media are complementary and coexistent. In my mind, their video blog is not promoting anything at all. It simply IS and stands alone as great art and communication. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product. --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
IN MY OPINION - I THINK - this video blog majorly deserves a bump for discussion here and should be subscribed to by all members of this list. These two young people have taken video blogging to a whole new level and really deserve some sort of best video blog of the year award. I am astonished at their production skills combined with brilliant writing and assembling from a wide variety of shots including serious special effects to deliver an amazing virtual experience into their lives. I cannot praise them enough for what they are delivering to us all. It is truly a gift from GOD what they are doing. I LOVE them and their friends truly for their SIGNIFICANT contribution to this new art form. Please take a look at what they are doing - I BEG YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THEIR WORK. And Subscribe to their podcast. http://foureyedmonsters.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 7, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: I assume a lot of you have seen/heard about this film, but I hadn't until a couple of days ago - its quite amazing what they've been able to accomplish using video blogging and myspace. http://www.foureyedmonsters.com/ If nothing else, their video podcasts are quite nice to watch. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
Yikes, exaggerate much? I mean I know it is a really well don't vlog but a gift from God? what exactly makes their contribution more significant than say those of Jay dedman, josh kinberg, Verdi, or you?it is good though...wish they posted more often On 2/21/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IN MY OPINION -I cannot praise them enough for what they are delivering to usall. It is truly a gift from GOD what they are doing. I LOVE them andtheir friends truly for their SIGNIFICANT contribution to this new art form.Please take a look at what they are doing - I BEG YOU ALL TO LOOK ATTHEIR WORK. And Subscribe to their podcast.-- Josh Leojoshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.comjoshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
These two young people have taken video blogging to a whole new level and really deserve some sort of best video blog of the year award. OK, so I'm going to call you on this. How have they taken video blogging to a whole new level? My understanding is that they made a short film, like tens of thousands of people do each year, and in a traditional anti-new media move, have submitted it to a short film festival (like tens of thousands of people do each year), and it did OK, but not great (like thousands of short films do each year). Then to promote the film, they did six short video pieces about the behind the scenes of making the film. Sounds a lot like what Matthew Clayfield did with Kite Circuit[1]. Am I understanding correctly? The only thing that piqued my interest, was a statement by the filmmakers that the videos were extensions of the film, and although they didn't directly say it, by implication the personas in the videos are subsequently fictional. Sounds like another online serial to me. I admit the charcter (not narrative) connection between film and video is interesting, but no different to mainstream media doing a film and a TV series. I haven't seen their film. In fact I couldn't find anywhere on their site which tells me where or how to see the film. My recommendation to them would be to release it, at least in low quality, on the web. Perhaps the buzz from making the connection between film and video series would generate them more attention. I am astonished at their production skills combined with brilliant writing and assembling from a wide variety of shots including serious special effects to deliver an amazing virtual experience into their lives I couldn't see anything particularly brilliant in the video series. It is truly a gift from GOD what they are doing. Like I said, I haven't seen the film, so it could be REALLY good. Having said that, I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product. It would thus be offensive to give them any kind of video blogging award for this. Or maybe I've misundertood. Regards, Richard [1] http://www.sequential-one.com/kitecircuit/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
Check out what they are doing over at MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/foureyedmonsters They've got a blog, plus all the added features of MySpace which are allowing them to build a community. They are listed under MySpace Film which is kinda like being listed under MySpace Music, but in this case it looks like they get a sweet videoplayer. On Feb 21, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Richard BF wrote: I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product. --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com My most recent post: VLOG SOUP: Episode 11 http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/02/vlog_soup_episo.html You are worth like 50 million danishes. - Amy Carpenter Alternative reply address: stephen.garfield [AT] comcast.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters
either:A- Anyone who watches their films and isn't thoroughly impressed by film manifest as art and _expression_ of experience has little understand of film and/or experienceorB- I am an idiot, and am completely wrong (a possibility I openly admit) orC- some combination.PS great, GREAT stuff. They made art.Ronencinemalog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
