Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-11 Thread Ron Watson


Let's get this straight, guys, it is CORPORATE media; not liberal, not conservative, and certainly not mainstream. Please don't take that as an attack on you (kit, enric, et al...), but see it as the true nature of the power that is going to try to crush the ability of all of us to distribute media. These are artificial persons, protected by the constitution with direct access to our eyes, ears, our wallets and our elected officials. To call the corporate media 'mainstream' is giving them too much credit and pitting us against other citizens. The only reason it is mainstream is because it has had a stranglehold on the dissemination of information for the last 50 years. Each year there are fewer and fewer players. Now we are looking at Rocketboom and other open media that can circumvent the corporate stranglehold on information and reach hundreds of thousands of people, and this thing is just getting rolling. Everybody has the right to free speech, but only the wealthy have the right to be heard. The internet threatened that corporate stranglehold on free speech, and it was morphed into a giant shopping mall to mitigate the effects of empowered, informed, people sharing information. People are crafty though, blogging, vlogging and video podcasting threaten the corporate agenda once again, and once again the corporations are lining up side by side: record companies, media giants and telecom are all against the very idea that we should be able to contribute to the media landscape, and they are acting as we speak.Legions of lobbyists are crawling all over our capital trying to put us all offline.They are working on choking up distribution; working on pricing little guys out of the game; working on licensing restrictions; they are locking it down. Sorry to go off, and I mean no offense to those upthread, but it is just so frustrating when you understand what we have already lost to the corporate agenda, and what we stand to lose if they get their way on this issue. I'll try to be quiet now...ronOn Mar 10, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Enric wrote:  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Kitka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Current mainstream media won't go away, just will become significantly > > smaller in the future.  We still have Opera, just the percentage of > > population going to see it is smaller. > >  > >   -- Enric >  > I agree, Enric.  After all, we videobloggers and bloggers who report > quoted news from mainstream sources will continue to depend on those > sources. >  > You can see how the mainstream media might be scared, though... they > may not go away, but it's quite possible they will downsize. >  > Kitka > http://www.kitkast.com/ >  Yup, being top dog is nice.     ;),     EnricSPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread BevSykes





I did.  No reply yet.
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Garfield 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:13 
AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News 
  Story
  Let's ask him.On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Kitka 
  wrote:> The point I was getting to earlier is why does this news 
  anchor claim> that Rocketboom is "fake news" while _his_ ABC webcast is 
  "real news".--Steve-- http://SteveGarfield.comhttp://Rocketboom.comMy most recent 
  post:VLOG SOUP: Episode 12<http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/03/vlog_soup_episo.html>"You 
  are worth like 50 million danishes." - Amy CarpenterAlternative reply 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Garfield
Let's ask him.

On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Kitka wrote:

> The point I was getting to earlier is why does this news anchor claim
> that Rocketboom is "fake news" while _his_ ABC webcast is "real news".

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread BevSykes





>>Stupidity should not to be 
underestimated.<<
 
One has only to look at Washington, D.C.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread BevSykes





You talked about SNL and The Daily Show 
manipulating the news to make it humorous.  If a reporter is manipulating 
the news (under-reporting the popularity of video blogs) for some reason, how 
does that make it any different from SNL or The Daily Show?  (The only way 
it would be different is if the reporter was too clueless to actually do the 
research and find out the truth behind the story)
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:54 
AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News 
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  Sorry, Bev, but can you re-write that... I'm not sure I 
  understandwhat you're trying to say.Kitka> In that I 
  guess "real" news isn't that much different from SNL orThe Daily Show, is 
  it...the difference being that the end result ofthe fact manipulation 
  isn't intended to be "comedic," but somethingelseeither misleading, or 
  the reporter didn't understand thesubject at all.> > -- 
  > 
  Bev




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread BevSykes





>>Yeah, did you also notice how 
the anchor said that there weren't verymany downloads last year?  
Duh... videoblogging has been growingexponentially in the past few months 
thanks to the video-iPod (andsimilar portable technology, the emergence of 
new aggregators anddirectories.  He makes it seem like videoblogging is 
never going tohit it big...<<
 
In that I guess "real" news isn't that much different from SNL or The 
Daily Show, is it...the difference being that the end result of the fact 
manipulation isn't intended to be "comedic," but something elseeither 
misleading, or the reporter didn't understand the subject at all.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ABC News Story

2006-03-10 Thread BevSykes





 
>>I find it troubling, 
though, that the ABC news anchor calls Rocketboom"fake news".  I mean, 
the news is real and they're reporting it... sowhat makes it 
fake?<<
Jon Stewart refers to "The Daily Show" as "faux news" too, though he 
has some of the best reporting around most of the time.




  
  
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