Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-09 Thread Kunga


The universe of audio and video will always have all sorts of lengths, sizes and qualities among its parts. There is no right or wrong on this subject. I do agree shorter is better for a lot of things - especially in this early stage of internet distribution.I so thrilled to have found the Buckey videos at http://greylodge.org/gpc/?p=67. I knew him personally so this is a huge find for me. Thank you so much for mentioning it Steve Watkins. The Real Player series is handing off sockets every minute. I have never seen video distributed this way before. I guess you can stop it any time and pick up where you leave off by keeping the individual part of the string - sort of like a series of little chain links - on your desktop. Very interesting. Wonder how they do that and why? The player keeps handing off to 1-1.5 minute segments while remaining the same name between each thought he states. And the video gets very interesting as the editor or the director used the blue screen to project more than one shot of Bucky simultaneously while he was talking. Can't tell if that was done in post or during the recording. And Bucky directing the director - this is CLASSIC!!!I think Bucky was the original inventor of the Internet. He was the first person to imagine and postulate the concept of a global interconnected network of computers sharing information for resource re-delegation. However his concept was not at the desktop level because that was beyond his ability to imagine. I took him to Apple to meet Steve Jobs back in the 70's and he thought the Apple computer was "just a toy". He wound up being too old to fathom what we have today. But I did imagine it beyond his mainframe network concept. I tried to tell him this was going to happen but he didn't get it cause desktops were still too weak then.Thank you so much Steve Watkins. Bucky video for FREE! This is another internet miracle. Wow!! the quality of this video is amazing considering when it was recorded in January 1975. I am totally blown away. I will be posting this news on Future Media TV blogspot site tonight with a personal thanks to you Steve. Thank you soo much. I am crying. Bucky is my #1 all time hero.I will definitely be watching all 42 hours of this set MORE THAN ONCE. And I will be listening to the audio on my iPod even more times. Every minute is a mind blowing experience for me. Taylor Barcroftbarcroft (gizmo) http://www.gizmoproject.comkungax (Skype) http://skype.comkungag5 (iChat) http://www.aim.comhttp://futuremediatv.blip.tv/http://futuremediatv.blogspot.com/http://videopodcaster.blogspot.com/http://videopodcasts.blogspot.com/http://podclips.blogspot.com/http://podwaves.blogspot.com/http://tripodcast.blogspot.com/http://talkintech.blogspot.com/http://cafolk.blogspot.com/http://robinacourtin.blogspot.com/ On Aug 8, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:I like small chunks, but I really love long stuff too.   Some stuff just cant be handled in little chunks, I like epics. The temptation to talk of legendary lower attention span in certain nations is almost too much to resist, but I will try.   Or do a combination. There is the video of lecture series 'Everything I Know' by R Buckminster Fuller available free online, I believe it is 42 hours long. But it is also broken down into many hundreds of shorter clips.  Anyway there is no right or wrong, people differ, and generally I think anybody could be captivated for longer periods of time IF the content kept them captivated. Still its hard to create captivating epics, so its more likely people would watch longer stuff thats on a specific theme  thats of special interest to them.  To say whether the video in question should be 28 minutes or not, well I could not say without seeing it first.  Cheers  Steve of Elbows 

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Pete Prodoehl




ecomputerd wrote:
 
 And we'll soon see (if you haven't already!) RSS 
 Video direct to TV.

Where oh where are the MythTV hackers... We need one on this list!

Pete

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http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...








  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg




 So, josh, I would encourage you to think out of the Web ;-)

I can't watch anything longer than 5 minutes anywhere (5 minutes is
really pushing the limits of my attention span), not just on the web.

I won't watch a 28 minute segment on TV, or listen to 28 minutes
straight on the radio without checking what else is on, or jumping up
to check email.

I don't think I'm alone. I really wish maintream content producers
would htink in smaller chunks. There are only 2 good minutes maximum
of just about everything on television or in the movies, the rest is
filler.

-josh






  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg




Why not make each of these a separate chunk.
Then I might be able to watch and even link to individual parts of it
rather than tell someone:
you know there's some good stuff from minute 18:30 to 21:10

(Or i could use MeFeedia's new quoting tool: plugging for Peter)

-josh


On 8/8/05, jmedakev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PLEASE by all means... check it out. It's about the war. I interview
 three soldiers who served in Iraq, one of whome adamently disagrees
 with the war. I interviewed a woman who's husband was killed in Iraq.
 I interview an actual Iraqi citizen who says what he thinks should be
 done with Saddam. I call Senator Edwards out on not taking my
 questions. I call Margaret Cho out on a blog post she wrote that
 makes me sick. I start my independent journalism series where I'm
 gonna teach you how to start your own news cast.
 
 Watch the first three minutes. Thats all I ask.
 
 Jamie
 thekeverreport.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I like small chunks, but I really love long stuff too.
 
  Some stuff just cant be handled in little chunks, I like epics. The
  temptation to talk of legendary lower attention span in certain
  nations is almost too much to resist, but I will try.
 
  Or do a combination. There is the video of lecture
 series 'Everything
  I Know' by R Buckminster Fuller available free online, I believe it
 is
  42 hours long. But it is also broken down into many hundreds of
  shorter clips.
 
  Anyway there is no right or wrong, people differ, and generally I
  think anybody could be captivated for longer periods of time IF the
  content kept them captivated. Still its hard to create captivating
  epics, so its more likely people would watch longer stuff thats on a
  specific theme thats of special interest to them.
 
  To say whether the video in question should be 28 minutes or not,
 well
  I could not say without seeing it first.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve of Elbows
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
So, josh, I would encourage you to think out of the Web ;-)
  
   I can't watch anything longer than 5 minutes anywhere (5 minutes
 is
   really pushing the limits of my attention span), not just on the
 web.
  
   I won't watch a 28 minute segment on TV, or listen to 28 minutes
   straight on the radio without checking what else is on, or
 jumping up
   to check email.
  
   I don't think I'm alone. I really wish maintream content producers
   would htink in smaller chunks. There are only 2 good minutes
 maximum
   of just about everything on television or in the movies, the rest
 is
   filler.
  
   -josh
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg




I don't think its necessary... your target output is TV not the web,
and to re-edit everything would be a big PITA.

But, if your target output was the web then I would definitely say
smaller chunks are better. Maybe even separate blog entries for each
bit so there are permalinks to specific video segments. Of course
these decisions would be up to you as the author, but I prefer things
that are linkable. The web is an ecology of links, work with its
strength. The web is not ideal for linear media.

The quoting tool is something Peter added to MeFeedia.com. It allows
you to create quote segments from Quicktime movies. The output is a
SMIL movie that uses the start and stop time parameters to make the
quote. Although you'll still have to wait for the movie to load up to
the point of the quote before it begins playing -- this is a SMIL
limitation.

Here's an example of the quoting action on Chuck Olsen's site:
http://blogumentary.typepad.com/vlog/2005/08/mefeedia_quote_.html

-Josh



On 8/8/05, jmedakev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I really don't want to seperate it. Do you really think that is
 necessary? It flows from one thing to the other.
 
 What's this quoting thing you're talking about?
 
 Jamie
 thekeverreport.com
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Why not make each of these a separate chunk.
  Then I might be able to watch and even link to individual parts of
 it
  rather than tell someone:
  you know there's some good stuff from minute 18:30 to 21:10
 
  (Or i could use MeFeedia's new quoting tool: plugging for Peter)
 
  -josh
 
 
  On 8/8/05, jmedakev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PLEASE by all means... check it out. It's about the war. I
 interview
   three soldiers who served in Iraq, one of whome adamently
 disagrees
   with the war. I interviewed a woman who's husband was killed in
 Iraq.
   I interview an actual Iraqi citizen who says what he thinks
 should be
   done with Saddam. I call Senator Edwards out on not taking my
   questions. I call Margaret Cho out on a blog post she wrote that
   makes me sick. I start my independent journalism series where I'm
   gonna teach you how to start your own news cast.
  
   Watch the first three minutes. Thats all I ask.
  
   Jamie
   thekeverreport.com
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
I like small chunks, but I really love long stuff too.
   
Some stuff just cant be handled in little chunks, I like epics.
 The
temptation to talk of legendary lower attention span in certain
nations is almost too much to resist, but I will try.
   
Or do a combination. There is the video of lecture
   series 'Everything
I Know' by R Buckminster Fuller available free online, I
 believe it
   is
42 hours long. But it is also broken down into many hundreds of
shorter clips.
   
Anyway there is no right or wrong, people differ, and generally
 I
think anybody could be captivated for longer periods of time IF
 the
content kept them captivated. Still its hard to create
 captivating
epics, so its more likely people would watch longer stuff thats
 on a
specific theme thats of special interest to them.
   
To say whether the video in question should be 28 minutes or
 not,
   well
I could not say without seeing it first.
   
Cheers
   
Steve of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  So, josh, I would encourage you to think out of the Web ;-
 )

 I can't watch anything longer than 5 minutes anywhere (5
 minutes
   is
 really pushing the limits of my attention span), not just on
 the
   web.

 I won't watch a 28 minute segment on TV, or listen to 28
 minutes
 straight on the radio without checking what else is on, or
   jumping up
 to check email.

 I don't think I'm alone. I really wish maintream content
 producers
 would htink in smaller chunks. There are only 2 good minutes
   maximum
 of just about everything on television or in the movies, the
 rest
   is
 filler.

 -josh
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg




IA = Internet Archive

On 8/8/05, jmedakev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is IA? Can I embed mp4 and get the quicktime embedded
 controller?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Video Technology

2005-08-08 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:
At 10:34 PM 8/8/2005, Josh Kinberg wrote:
IA = Internet
Archive
On 8/8/05, jmedakev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is IA? Can I embed mp4 and get the quicktime embedded
 controller?
Quicktime 7 does this automatically as if it were an MOV file. But
in order for it to work though, I think the viewer MUST have Quicktime 7
but I could be wrong on that part. :-)
Hope this helps Jamie :-)
Cheers for now everyone :-)
Pat
P.S. My two video blogs are now listed on vlogmap, so feel free to
pay me a virtual visit with your Google Earth client if you're so
inclined. :-)

  




  
  
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