Re: [videoblogging] re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question

2006-01-16 Thread Stephanie Bryant
Nerissa, can you explain what you mean by progressive buffering?

On 1/16/06, Nerissa (TheVideoQueen) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2) I also don't even start to watch videos if it takes more than a minute to
 download/buffer UNLESS I know I want to see this video for some reason I
 read in the description. This is where format and file size come into play
 for me. I prefer streaming or progressive downloads, or small files (10mb)
 of wmv, mov, and mpg.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Njoroge Ndonye



I prefer the shorter ones because of where I watch...at work or on my video ipod. When I can have it all connected to my living room tv...then I may want to watch longer pieces. And yeah, it'd better be a progressive download.
On 1/16/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me size does not matter (in videos)However you got me mad if i have to download a 10 minute 50MB fileshowing some dork answering his email thru a vlog using theword whatever and like every 10 seconds.
It is not the question do you like long or short video's for meit's more if the content is worth downloading.So people use TAGS!! or descriptions, a picture as a teaser will getme going too.
just my 2..whateverBlips aka Klaas (he who is behind vlogmatic)--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? -josh On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefershorter  videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's gotto be  some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't
get  enough of the large files.   -JoshOn 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until
you've got 20 of   them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watchit three times   in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding
going ok ok...   i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm ondialup and don't   subscribe to any feeds.  
   instead i visit sites individually and make download decisionsbased on the   criteria of text description, file size, intriguingscreenshot, and easy   access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind
of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to youtomorrow...   assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it inthe morning.
   even with my finite download capability i somehow still windup with a   backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip   
http://swordfight.org   http://destroyhotaction.com   On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote:  
  i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant,although most  are smaller.i tend to be less patient in the browser.if there is a
feed, i'll use  that instead if it makes sense.if not, i'll download it inthe  background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care howlong the  download takes.i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i
prefer a  sizable player like fireant.in general, i don't really care how big or how long a videois as long  as the content is worth it(there is a limit of course, I'm
not looking  to download gigabyte files just yet).very few pieces ofmedia can hold  my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially moviesand TV).  
  i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usuallyjust fast  forward.if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within thefirst 30
  seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's notfrom a friend  perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next.again, sizeis not much  of a factor here.
while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail tocapture my  attention these days (this is more of a statement about theincrease in  the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's
just a lot  more stuff out there these days)the main reason for stopping a download: i found somethingelse I want  sooner  
  my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with noother limits  (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is notsuper fast, i  would probably feel different (
i.e., more selective) if I hadslower   access.i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does notseem to make  much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it
stops and  starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward).hope that helpsStephanie Bryant wrote:  
  I find myself revisiting this question every time I post alarge file  to my vlog.How much is too much? At what point will you (personally,
yourself, as  a vlog watcher):  1) Stop downloading the file.  2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it'snot too   boring).
Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said theywanted  longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to reallysit down  and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog
is 30 MB,  easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is thatworth your  time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make moresense to  stream instead?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question

2006-01-16 Thread Richard Show



On 1/16/06, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I wouldn't say I just can't get enough of large files, I just don't really mind longervideos.Some people just make long videos, and if I enjoy them, I watch em! (yes, I'm looking atyou, Mr. Richard Show.)
... hey, my recent ones are shorter ... really ... I'm down below a gigabyte and , my last was shorter than the most recent Harry Potter movie ... well, almost ... Richard (War and Peace of the Vlog World)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question

2006-01-16 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:45:58 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would suspect that as more devices come along to allow aggregated
 internet video content to be displayed on a television then there
 will be a greater demand for longer videos.

No doubt. I have the feeling that public access tv has failed because it  
requires longer content. That leaves out the regular joe who don't have  
time to produce a weekly 30 minute show. I only have limited experience  
with public access of course (a 5 month stay at CTN in Ann Arbor), but it  
seemed that the 'public' wasn't represented very well. It was mostly  
representatives from the local churches who videotaped sermons (a very  
easy way to create a 60 minute show). That why videoblogging - in my  
opinion - has an advantage over the tv. Shorter forms (ie. shorter than 30  
minutes) work better, and thus more people can be involved.

 before the Internet the only short form films one might
 see on a regular basis was television commercials. And that's a real
 waste of a perfectly good format.

I always tell people to start watching commercials. You can say a lot  
about them, but they're really good for figuring out how much you can  
leave *out* of a video and still have a perfectly coherent story.

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