Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video Ideas
But to get back on topic, I am still just not sure if it's the software or the hardware that needs to be open or if it's just us as artists...allowing our works to be a part of another work to create a storyengine that tells a whole new story. You are correct. Creators just need to keep pushing their own work. I forget sometimes that most videobloggers (and anyone who puts video on the web)are doing it in addition to having jobs, families, problems, etc. It's been said again and again: There is no longer a priest-caste to make movies, videos, stories, journalism etc. But along with this opening up, there also isn't a clear pattern/format for us to follow. Infinite possibilities means infinite anxiety. Might have been have easier when you knew you had to make a 22-minute TV show, or a 90-minute movie, that was based on very narrow genre expectations? The process of bureaucracy and obtaining approval/money was almost comforting in a solid excuse for not creating? The chase of the festival circuit was a predictable struggle? Anyway...i still do think that an open video/story engine would help. The fact that you use Sony Vegas and I use iMovie/FCP...makes it a little more difficult for us to work together without having to figure out the technical aspects in between. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video Ideas
is h264 not ok as master source video codec (and final output) for both vegas and fcp/imovie? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: But to get back on topic, I am still just not sure if it's the software or the hardware that needs to be open or if it's just us as artists...allowing our works to be a part of another work to create a storyengine that tells a whole new story. You are correct. Creators just need to keep pushing their own work. I forget sometimes that most videobloggers (and anyone who puts video on the web)are doing it in addition to having jobs, families, problems, etc. It's been said again and again: There is no longer a priest-caste to make movies, videos, stories, journalism etc. But along with this opening up, there also isn't a clear pattern/format for us to follow. Infinite possibilities means infinite anxiety. Might have been have easier when you knew you had to make a 22-minute TV show, or a 90-minute movie, that was based on very narrow genre expectations? The process of bureaucracy and obtaining approval/money was almost comforting in a solid excuse for not creating? The chase of the festival circuit was a predictable struggle? Anyway...i still do think that an open video/story engine would help. The fact that you use Sony Vegas and I use iMovie/FCP...makes it a little more difficult for us to work together without having to figure out the technical aspects in between. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video Ideas
the open part of video editing tools should prob just be that of an XML format that lays out the instructions for an edited and produced video... with all effects, cuts, layers, paths, filenames and other metadata etc defined. then the software out there SHOULD be compatible as handlers and allow for import of these instructions. since proprietary apps will not care and also may have their own XML format for such things, open source apps would be created in tandem and eventually, some of the popular editing tools may support the standard in the future which can include supporting ogg or other open codecs. imagine if we all made videos using SMIL? sull On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Heath heathpa...@msn.com wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... Anyway...i still do think that an open video/story engine would help. The fact that you use Sony Vegas and I use iMovie/FCP...makes it a little more difficult for us to work together without having to figure out the technical aspects in between. Jay In that I completely agree...having a standard or open video editing/processing platform would be great for collaborations and I think we need to remember that open doesn't have to mean free...because at some point that people making all this I am sure would like to have some compensation for their time, effort, etc...So some of being open to open standards is for us as storytellers editors, etc is to embrace these new techs and share the knowledge... Although I will admit, it's hard to balance the creative and tech sides of me Heath http://heathparks.com -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video Ideas
is h264 not ok as master source video codec (and final output) for both vegas and fcp/imovie? Sure, that's doable. But if we're really talking about collaboration, lets shoot for the stars. We should be able to swap project files, compression settings, fonts, make music together, sceensharing...and IM within the editing project. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video Ideas
- Original Message - From: Heath I've been teaching this digital media class the last three semesters, and technology is a huge barrier to creativity. First, we only have PCs, so we can't go with FCP, so we go with Premiere Pro, which is functionally find, but has all sorts of issues dealing with different types of files/codecs. Just use Sony Vegas Richard, it's much better :-) I've used the consumer version of Sony Vegas for *years* ... it is a *very* capable and *very* stable program. Richard Amirault Boston, MA, USA http://n1jdu.org http://bostonfandom.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
