Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Bob Norris
Andy, I agree the location does not matter. It could be in a classroom, office or a box with green eggs and ham. To me the issue is personal vs. public. Giving my age away, way back when it was simple. The personal or consumer home video license was for viewing in your dwelling by yourself and

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Andrew Horbal
I think it's relevant that the license states that it's okay to screen the film in a location such as a "hotel room, dorm room, office, or airport waiting lounge" provided that the screening "is limited to a private viewing for you and your invitees" (note that the license says "invitees," not

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Bob Norris
Well, using the I'm not a lawyer just thinking logically approach, a professor and the students seems more similar to a public performance than a private viewing. Profs may have an affinity for their students but the students are not the prof's friends. It is rare that a prof would invite

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Laura Jenemann
Hi Bob and all, Yes, exactly: the classroom is a public space, i.e, playing a film there would be considered a public performance. Sec. 110(1) is the "but." If all of the factors in Sec. 110(1) apply to the public performance, you can exercise the exemption it allows. Relatedly, even when

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Jessica Rosner
Except as Dennis pointed out a contract trumps or supersedes 110 which is why you can't use Netflx etc in a classroom. I have mixed feelings, as someone who has worked with both librarians and filmmakers for decades as well as total film geek it is deeply troubling that there are increasing

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime

2016-10-17 Thread Jessica Rosner
Again I think it is more than a stretch to claim showing a film/program to what can be a large number of people is "personal" use or that students are "invitees" but like I said someone might bring this up to the speakers at NMM Jessica On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Horbal

Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime (+online-only media issue)

2016-10-17 Thread John Vallier
Thanks, CW, for your input on this issue. As Kevin Smith noted, when writing about the unfortunate AIME v UCLA case... "We routinely assume that “contracts trump copyright;” libraries are told that all the time regarding the databases they license, and they often pass the message on to users.