Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival
A more basic question at least with the film you mentioned is how would obtain a copy. Under the terms of the GATT treaty virtually no European film made after 1923 would be PD. It is long and complicated explanation.] Again I see no likelihood that this film is legally released in the US and tracking rights and copy down would likely take a long time. There are of course PD American films but I have trouble imagining most of them being good for festivals but if you want to run some Ed Wood films or Hi Diddle Diddle, or even Keaton's The General ( provided you don't use Kino or other versions copyrighted by the music score, you can. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new at this finding the rights thing, but it's needed for a film festival that's happening relatively soon (too soon!), so your help will be appreciated! The questions, I suppose, concern (i) whether any of the films we want are in the public domain, and (ii) if not, how do I go about talking to someone about the rights to show them at the festival. The first film I have in mind is Castellani's Un colpo di pistola (The Pistol Shot) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033475/) Our genuine thanks in advance for ANY and ALL counsel, advice, leads, contacts, etc.! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival
Thanks for that. I should point out that, for this initial year of the festival, we're not talking about actual film reels, they can be shown on DVD. There is no DVD with English subtitles, as far as I know, but we can have the subtitles made. Let's presume it's not public domain. If the DVD rendering is adequate, why is this not simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them? I need some schooling here! Thanks again. --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:44 AM A more basic question at least with the film you mentioned is how would obtain a copy. Under the terms of the GATT treaty virtually no European film made after 1923 would be PD. It is long and complicated explanation.] Again I see no likelihood that this film is legally released in the US and tracking rights and copy down would likely take a long time. There are of course PD American films but I have trouble imagining most of them being good for festivals but if you want to run some Ed Wood films or Hi Diddle Diddle, or even Keaton's The General ( provided you don't use Kino or other versions copyrighted by the music score, you can. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new at this finding the rights thing, but it's needed for a film festival that's happening relatively soon (too soon!), so your help will be appreciated! The questions, I suppose, concern (i) whether any of the films we want are in the public domain, and (ii) if not, how do I go about talking to someone about the rights to show them at the festival. The first film I have in mind is Castellani's Un colpo di pistola (The Pistol Shot) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033475/) Our genuine thanks in advance for ANY and ALL counsel, advice, leads, contacts, etc.! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival
Jessica, I appreciate that, honestly. Still, I'm really looking for help in finding the films we do want to show; obviously, we could replace them with other films. Any ideas? --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:58 AM Well it could take a LONG time to find the rights holder and it would cost some money to make titles. I am not familiar with this film but I sincerely doubt you have enough time or money to find it, make a deal and get a titled copy. I did assume you would use a DVD. I would not even know where to start with a 1942 Italian film that almost surely has no US rights holder, perhaps the Italian Embassy or Consulate could give some info. There are people here who can track these things down but that would probably be rather expensive. Sadly is it is really simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them. I would strongly suggest using films where it is much easier to determine rights holders and obtain copies to screen. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for that. I should point out that, for this initial year of the festival, we're not talking about actual film reels, they can be shown on DVD. There is no DVD with English subtitles, as far as I know, but we can have the subtitles made. Let's presume it's not public domain. If the DVD rendering is adequate, why is this not simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them? I need some schooling here! Thanks again. --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:44 AM A more basic question at least with the film you mentioned is how would obtain a copy. Under the terms of the GATT treaty virtually no European film made after 1923 would be PD. It is long and complicated explanation.] Again I see no likelihood that this film is legally released in the US and tracking rights and copy down would likely take a long time. There are of course PD American films but I have trouble imagining most of them being good for festivals but if you want to run some Ed Wood films or Hi Diddle Diddle, or even Keaton's The General ( provided you don't use Kino or other versions copyrighted by the music score, you can. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new at this finding the rights thing, but it's needed for a film festival that's happening relatively soon (too soon!), so your help will be appreciated! The questions, I suppose, concern (i) whether any of the films we want are in the public domain, and (ii) if not, how do I go about talking to someone about the rights to show them at the festival. The first film I have in mind is Castellani's Un colpo di pistola (The Pistol Shot) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033475/) Our genuine thanks in advance for ANY and ALL counsel, advice, leads, contacts, etc.! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- VIDEOLIB
Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival
Dang I should have done some googling first. This film is out legitimately in Italy through Christaldi films. I have no idea if they own US rights but they definitely have to have contact for the rights holder. As I have advised several times but polite but firm. If they themselves do not own it be insistent that they give you contact info on whomever they got the rights from. Here is web site link http://www.cristaldifilm.com/chisiamo.htm On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: Jessica, I appreciate that, honestly. Still, I'm really looking for help in finding the films we do want to show; obviously, we could replace them with other films. Any ideas? --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:58 AM Well it could take a LONG time to find the rights holder and it would cost some money to make titles. I am not familiar with this film but I sincerely doubt you have enough time or money to find it, make a deal and get a titled copy. I did assume you would use a DVD. I would not even know where to start with a 1942 Italian film that almost surely has no US rights holder, perhaps the Italian Embassy or Consulate could give some info. There are people here who can track these things down but that would probably be rather expensive. Sadly is it is really simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them. I would strongly suggest using films where it is much easier to determine rights holders and obtain copies to screen. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for that. I should point out that, for this initial year of the festival, we're not talking about actual film reels, they can be shown on DVD. There is no DVD with English subtitles, as far as I know, but we can have the subtitles made. Let's presume it's not public domain. If the DVD rendering is adequate, why is this not simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them? I need some schooling here! Thanks again. --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jessicapros...@gmail.com * wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.eduhttp://mc/compose?to=videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:44 AM A more basic question at least with the film you mentioned is how would obtain a copy. Under the terms of the GATT treaty virtually no European film made after 1923 would be PD. It is long and complicated explanation.] Again I see no likelihood that this film is legally released in the US and tracking rights and copy down would likely take a long time. There are of course PD American films but I have trouble imagining most of them being good for festivals but if you want to run some Ed Wood films or Hi Diddle Diddle, or even Keaton's The General ( provided you don't use Kino or other versions copyrighted by the music score, you can. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new at this finding the rights thing, but it's needed for a film festival that's happening relatively soon (too soon!), so your help will be appreciated! The questions, I suppose, concern (i) whether any of the films we want are in the public domain, and (ii) if not, how do I go about talking to someone about the rights to show them at the festival. The first film I have in mind is Castellani's Un colpo di pistola (The Pistol Shot) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033475/) Our genuine thanks in advance for ANY and ALL counsel, advice, leads, contacts, etc.! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com http://mc/compose?to=jessicapros...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped
Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival
Jessica, that's terrific! Tell me you didn't just find that on IMDB (or at least that you had pro) - I didn't see that name there. I've written them and will call tomorrow. Thanks again! John --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 5:41 PM Dang I should have done some googling first. This film is out legitimately in Italy through Christaldi films. I have no idea if they own US rights but they definitely have to have contact for the rights holder. As I have advised several times but polite but firm. If they themselves do not own it be insistent that they give you contact info on whomever they got the rights from. Here is web site link http://www.cristaldifilm.com/chisiamo.htm On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: Jessica, I appreciate that, honestly. Still, I'm really looking for help in finding the films we do want to show; obviously, we could replace them with other films. Any ideas? --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:58 AM Well it could take a LONG time to find the rights holder and it would cost some money to make titles. I am not familiar with this film but I sincerely doubt you have enough time or money to find it, make a deal and get a titled copy. I did assume you would use a DVD. I would not even know where to start with a 1942 Italian film that almost surely has no US rights holder, perhaps the Italian Embassy or Consulate could give some info. There are people here who can track these things down but that would probably be rather expensive. Sadly is it is really simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them. I would strongly suggest using films where it is much easier to determine rights holders and obtain copies to screen. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for that. I should point out that, for this initial year of the festival, we're not talking about actual film reels, they can be shown on DVD. There is no DVD with English subtitles, as far as I know, but we can have the subtitles made. Let's presume it's not public domain. If the DVD rendering is adequate, why is this not simply a question of finding the rights holder and talking to them? I need some schooling here! Thanks again. --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Help finding Rights for (nonprofit) film festival To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 9:44 AM A more basic question at least with the film you mentioned is how would obtain a copy. Under the terms of the GATT treaty virtually no European film made after 1923 would be PD. It is long and complicated explanation.] Again I see no likelihood that this film is legally released in the US and tracking rights and copy down would likely take a long time. There are of course PD American films but I have trouble imagining most of them being good for festivals but if you want to run some Ed Wood films or Hi Diddle Diddle, or even Keaton's The General ( provided you don't use Kino or other versions copyrighted by the music score, you can. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM, khvostov khvos...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new at this finding the rights thing, but it's needed for a film festival that's happening relatively soon (too soon!), so your help will be appreciated! The questions, I suppose, concern (i) whether any of the films we want are in the public domain, and (ii) if not, how do I go about talking to someone about the rights to show them at the festival. The first film I have in mind is Castellani's Un colpo di pistola (The Pistol Shot) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033475/) Our genuine thanks in advance for ANY and ALL counsel, advice, leads, contacts, etc.! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating
