Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Viet Slackware
--- Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  + Tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` cho ra tie^'ng Vie^.t, kho^ng co' da^'u thi` ra
tie^'ng gi`?
  + viqr la` mo^.t ba?ng ma~ k0 pha?i kie^?u go~
 
 Wow, ca'i na`y mo+'i nghe a` nhe? The^' VIQR *input method* trong xvnkb, 
 uim hay Unikey la` chi nhi? ? 

hehe, va^.y Telex, VNI la` kie^?u go~ hay ba?ng ma~ ?
Hi`nh nhu+ VNI thi` la` ca? hai, co`n Telex chi? la` kie^?u go~ ?\

 DDi ddo.c RFC1456 ddi cu ;)http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1456.html
 
 /me hu` ddo.c rfc nghe cho no' oai oai ;)

ddi coi...

 
 -Larry
 
 
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Re: [Vietlug] [FUN] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Khai Tran
Hi,

Am Mo, den 05.07.2004 schrieb Bit Takeshi um 8:40:

 
 Vo+'i loa.i 2 thi` pha?i nhe. nha`ng ho+n, vi` pha^`n
 nhie^`u ho. la` con ga'i va` go~ 10 words per munite thi`

hahaha ... ca'i na`y thi` coi chu+`ng Sir Larry chi?nh la`
_politically not correct_  

 la`m sao ddo`i ho?i dde^'n VIQR. Kinh nghie^.m cu?a em
 thi` pha^`n nhie^`u loa.i 2 la` con ga'i. Ne^n ne^'u mi`nh
 a'p du.ng nhu+~ng quy ta('c cu+'ng nha('c vo+'i da^n ki~
 thua^.t cho loa.i 2 na`y thi` la.i ke^.ch co+~m va` bi.
 coi la` do+?i ho+i bie^'t bo+i.



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Re: [Vietlug] hoi? dap' ve` eclipse tren Linux Fedora I

2004-07-05 Hội thoại nguyễn vũ
Cha`o ba'c Kha'nh (?)
Hi`nh nhu+ dda~ co' tra? lo+`i cho ba'c o+? forum javavietnam.org, kho^ng bie^'t
ba'c dda~ ddo.c chu+a ?
Ne^'u dda~ ddo.c ro^`i ma` no'  va^~n bi. lo^~i thi` xin ba'c cho bie^'t ca'ch
thu+'c ba'c cai` dda(.t va` cha.y eclipse nhu+ the^' na`o ?
Hie^.n ta.i to^i ddang du`ng eclipse 3.0 (gtk) tre^n Debian (sarge), jdk (cu?a
Sun, Blackdown, IBM) dde^`u ok ca?
kho^ng bie^'t tre^n FC co' gi` la. kho^ng ? ba'c Nam cho 1 report ho^. nhe'

nguyen-vu




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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại pclouds
On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 03:40:07PM +0900, Bit Takeshi wrote:
 No'i cho gi` thi` no'i, cu~ng nhu+ ba'c James no'i ro^`i,
 dda^y la` ML cu?a da^n ki~ thua^.t va`  do ddo' no' ca^`n
 su+. chi'nh xa'c: VIQR dduo+.c du`ng, ca^`n ti'nh pho^?
 du.ng cao: do ddo' VIQR dduo+.c du`ng:)

Va^.y [EMAIL PROTECTED] la` da`nh cho da^n ky~
thua^.t? Va^.y co' ne^n la^.p the^m mo^.t ca'i list da`nh cho da^n
phi ky~ thua^.t ko ?

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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Bit Takeshi
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[Vietlug] du`ng vn keyboard trong Mandrake 10

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Hoang Anh Tuan








Cha`o cac bac,



Cho em ho?i trong Mandrake 10 la`m sao dde^? Go~ tie^ng
Vie^.t du`ng vn keyboard?



Thanks



Tua^n








Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Nhan Thanh Le
Why not? That's good ideas. 
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 14:14, pclouds wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 03:40:07PM +0900, Bit Takeshi wrote:
  No'i cho gi` thi` no'i, cu~ng nhu+ ba'c James no'i ro^`i,
  dda^y la` ML cu?a da^n ki~ thua^.t va`  do ddo' no' ca^`n
  su+. chi'nh xa'c: VIQR dduo+.c du`ng, ca^`n ti'nh pho^?
  du.ng cao: do ddo' VIQR dduo+.c du`ng:)
 
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 thua^.t? Va^.y co' ne^n la^.p the^m mo^.t ca'i list da`nh cho da^n
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Re: [Vietlug] du`ng vn keyboard trong Mandrake 10

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
Hi Tua^'n,

Mi`nh chu+a bao gio+` thu+? ca'c bo^. go~ vo+'i vn keyboard chi? do+n 
gia?n la` 0 co' vn keyboard. cu+' vie^.c ca`i ca'c bo^. go~ nhu+ bi`nh 
thu+o+`ng ro^`i report thu+?.

 -Larry


On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Hoang Anh Tuan wrote:

 Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
 
  
 
 Cho em ho?i trong Mandrake 10 la`m sao dde^? Go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t du`ng vn
 keyboard?
 
  
 
 Thanks
 
  
 
 Tua^'n
 
 


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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen


On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, b1nhb00ng wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:44:30AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote:
  Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;)
 Oops my bad, xvnkb DOES have it. /me bangs his head against xvnkb tarball

Wow, you admit that you were wrong! /me jumps up and down for joy

 
   No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~ tha^.t
   (vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y
   va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir
  See below ;)
 See above :)
 
  4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS
  
 VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding
 convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and
 transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character
 set.
  
  Last I check, typing == go~ 
 Also, reading here can be associated with representation (or charset)
 

DDo^`ng y'. Nhu+ng no'i VIQR kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t kie^?u go~ (input 
method) thi` hoa`n toa`n sai. Admit it! Vi` dda^y la` kie^?u go~ VIQR 
ne` ;)

-Larry



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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen


On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, pclouds wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 02:48:26PM +0900, James Nguyen wrote:
  Do va^.y mo+'i co' nhu+~ng ye^u ca^`u ve^` tri`nh ba`y mo^.t
  email, thu+o+`ng ga(.p nha^'t la`
  - kho^ng top posting
  - kho^ng thread hijacking
  - dda(.t topic ro~ ra`ng
  - ca('t do`ng thi'ch ho+.p
  - ca('t pha^`n thu+`a trong reply, ca('t qua?ng ca'o
  - kho^ng du`ng HTML mail
 
 Ra^'t hay. DDe^` nghi. ddu+a vo^ FAQ ;)
 


Hoi truoc co' ca'i FAQ cho ML nhu+ng vi` ca^?u tha? update Slash no' dde` 
le^n ma^'t :(

-Larry


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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại BITguy
Larry wrote:


 On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, b1nhb00ng wrote:

  On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:44:30AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote:
   Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;)
  Oops my bad, xvnkb DOES have it. /me bangs his head against xvnkb
tarball

 Wow, you admit that you were wrong! /me jumps up and down for joy

 
No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~
tha^.t
(vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y
va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir
   See below ;)
  See above :)
 
   4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS
  
  VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding
  convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and
  transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character
  set.
  
   Last I check, typing == go~
  Also, reading here can be associated with representation (or charset)
 

 DDo^`ng y'. Nhu+ng no'i VIQR kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t kie^?u go~ (input
 method) thi` hoa`n toa`n sai. Admit it! Vi` dda^y la` kie^?u go~ VIQR
 ne` ;)


Em ngu+'a mo^`m nha?y vo^ mo^.t ti': sao ba'c Larry va` bb kho^ng coi VIQR
nhu+ VNI ddu+.oc sao (ba'c VietSlackware da~ de^` ca^.p do'): vu+`a la`
ca'ch go~, vu+`a la` ba~ng ma~:
+ typing method: bo+?i vi` ba'c cha(?ng ca^`n bo^. go~ na`o va^~n go~
du+o+.c no'
+ charset: bo+?i vi` co' the^? du`ng kie^?u go~ telex dde^? go~ ba?ng
ma~ (go.i la` kie^?u go~ thi` sao nhi\?) VIQR

/me dzo.t tru+o+'c kho^ng bb ngu+'a tay toa`n bo.p lung tung ;).



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Re: [Vietlug] du`ng vn keyboard trong Mandrake 10

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Quy NGUYEN DAI
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 01:27:40 +0700, Hoang Anh Tuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mi`nh kho^ng bie^'t be^n Linux co' gi` kha'c kho^ng. Nhu+ng tha^'y be^n Win XP thi` 
 du`ng vn keyboard thi` kho^ng ca^`n bo^. Go~ va^~n co' the^? Go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t co' 
 da^'u.

Ba'c co' ma'y a?nh cho^.p cho 1 ca'i photo cho xem VN Keyboard ca'i ddi :)


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RE: [Vietlug] du`ng vn keyboard trong Mandrake 10

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
va^.y thi` Tua^'n thu+? go~ kie^?u VIQR hay VNI (kho^ng ca`i bo^. go~ 
na`o he^'t). Mi`nh 0 nghi~ la` no' work but who knows

-Larry 

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Hoang Anh Tuan wrote:

 Mi`nh kho^ng bie^'t be^n Linux co' gi` kha'c kho^ng. Nhu+ng tha^'y be^n Win XP thi` 
 du`ng vn keyboard thi` kho^ng ca^`n bo^. Go~ va^~n co' the^? Go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t co' 
 da^'u.
 
 Tua^'n
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pclouds
 Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Vietlug] du`ng vn keyboard trong Mandrake 10
 
 On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 03:10:44PM +0700, Hoang Anh Tuan wrote:
  Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
  Cho em ho?i trong Mandrake 10 la`m sao dde^? Go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t du`ng vn
  keyboard?
 vn keyboard co' gi` kha'c vo+'i en-us keyboard ko ba'c?
 
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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR

2004-07-05 Hội thoại Viet Slackware
 Thie^'t nghi~ ai dda~ mo` ma^~m vo^ mailinglist na`y thi` dda~ la` da^n
 ky~ thua^.t hay i't nha^'t la` cu~ng co' ta^m ho^`n ky~ thua^.t.
 Kho^ng the^? na`o tham gia ca'i List na`y ho?i ve^` nhu+~ng dde^` ta`i
 bash-scripting, C-coding hay hay la` Perl-hacking   va` nhie^`u va^'n
 dde^` ky~ thua^.t kha'c ... no'i ddu'ng ra ga^`n nhu+ 100% la` ky~
 thua^.t ma` than phie^`n la` go~ VIQR kho' hay la` phie^`n va` tu+.
 dda'nh gia' mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i kho^ng chuye^n ky~ thua^.t.

tui u?ng ho^. ba'c 100%
tui cu~ng cha? du`ng bo^. go~ na`o dde^? go~ VIQR ;) vo+'i la.i nguye^n thu?y
ca'i VIQR ra ddo+`i cu~ng vi` lu'c ddo' kho^ng co' bo^. go~  charset cho
tie^'ng Vie^.t

btw..vu+`a vote 1 phie^'u cho giu+~ nguye^n ML ... co`n chuye^.n la`m ML
Unicode thi` ba'c na`o hu+'ng thu' vie^'t ca'i gi` gi` ddo' auto convert ca'i
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