Re: [VM] gmail issue
Uday Reddy writes: When I send a message to the viewmail-info mailing list from this email account (usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com) I don't get a copy of the message back to the account. I don't recall this happening a few months ago. I have done some testing to find out what gmail is doing. As we know, gmail doesn't have folders. All your messages go into a single message-base, and folders are a front for the different labels that one might put on the messages in this single message-base. If you use the IMAP-FCC header to put your outgoing messages in some folder (say Sent) then, when a regular copy of your message arrives, gmail recognizes that it is already there in your message-base and silently drops the new copy. If you don't use IMAP-FCC, then it seems that the new copies do arrive in your INBOX. The easiest way to get around the difficulty is to combine your INBOX and Sent folder into a single virtual folder. Here is what you might put in your .vm file: (defun gmail-folder (folder) Short hand function for referring to gmail folders. (format imap-ssl:imap.gmail.com:993:%s:login:YOUR-LOGIN-ID:* folder)) (add-to-list 'vm-virtual-folder-alist `(gmail ( ,(list (gmail-folder INBOX) (gmail-folder Sent)) (any (defun gmail () Visit the combined gmail INBOX Sent folders. (interactive) (vm-visit-virtual-folder gmail)) Then doing `M-x gmail' should show you the combined INBOX and Sent folders. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] gmail issue
James Freer writes: Could this be a problem with the new gmail UI and the way it handles replies. I notice they've removed it for this weekend which makes me think there are some problems to be sorted. In which case your problem could disappear. There do seem to be changes... and bugs. The gmail IMAP server is not at present responding to the LOGOUT command. So, VM hangs waiting to hear back from the server. I hope they will fix this soon. Mark Diekhans writes: Google groups doesn't send you a copy of your message when you post to a list. We have been told they view this as a `feature' which there is no control over. Sounds like they added the same `feature' to gmail :-( Yeah, I think they have made an ill-thought out change here. There are possible work-arounds in VM using virtual folders. I will post them here when I have them working. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] gmail issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Uday Reddy wrote: James Freer writes: Could this be a problem with the new gmail UI and the way it handles replies. I notice they've removed it for this weekend which makes me think there are some problems to be sorted. In which case your problem could disappear. There do seem to be changes... and bugs. The gmail IMAP server is not at present responding to the LOGOUT command. So, VM hangs waiting to hear back from the server. I hope they will fix this soon. Mark Diekhans writes: Google groups doesn't send you a copy of your message when you post to a list. We have been told they view this as a `feature' which there is no control over. Sounds like they added the same `feature' to gmail :-( Yeah, I think they have made an ill-thought out change here. There are possible work-arounds in VM using virtual folders. I will post them here when I have them working. Cheers, Uday Uday Trouble is you spend time doing mods for users and then gmail change things. I want to use VM but for the moment i've stayed with alpine. The last time we were in touch i was going to install Xubuntu 12.04 only to discover that it was still on Emacs 23. Stunnel gave trouble and Emacs 24 was solving this. I've had so much to do i haven't tried xubuntu 12.11 so the next upgrade for me will be 13.04 when i hope to have VM running. many thanks for all your hard work. james
[VM] gmail issue
When I send a message to the viewmail-info mailing list from this email account (usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com) I don't get a copy of the message back to the account. I don't recall this happening a few months ago. I wonder if anybody else is experiencing this problem? (I save outgoing messages in Sent which becomes [IMAP]/Sent on gmail. I wonder if gmail thinks that I already have a copy of the message in my account and kills the new copy coming into my Inbox?) Cheers, Uday PS. When I logged into the gmail webmail it served up 4 ads for me: 3 on bug control companies in my region and one on some software built on top of VMWare.
Re: [VM] gmail issue
Google groups doesn't send you a copy of your message when you post to a list. We have been told they view this as a `feature' which there is no control over. Sounds like they added the same `feature' to gmail :-( Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes: When I send a message to the viewmail-info mailing list from this email account (usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com) I don't get a copy of the message back to the account. I don't recall this happening a few months ago. I wonder if anybody else is experiencing this problem? (I save outgoing messages in Sent which becomes [IMAP]/Sent on gmail. I wonder if gmail thinks that I already have a copy of the message in my account and kills the new copy coming into my Inbox?) Cheers, Uday PS. When I logged into the gmail webmail it served up 4 ads for me: 3 on bug control companies in my region and one on some software built on top of VMWare.
