[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you fr ths Lex, I take yr points and, in particular, that Sanz was only recording his recollection of Roman practice. Nevertheless, does it not represent a compelling piece of contemporary (allbeit reported some 20 yrs after his visit) evidence for re-entrant stringing rather than

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses - posn of low octave string

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Lex, Regarding posn of low octave on 4th and 5th courses: I do, of course, well understand that modern general practice is for low basses to be 'closest to the floor' (hence my continuation dots..), my reason in raising this matter with you was that if strict part writing in

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses - posn of low octave string

2005-09-05 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
I do, of course, well understand that modern general practice is for low basses to be 'closest to the floor' (hence my continuation dots..), my reason in raising this matter with you was that if strict part writing in BC was expected on the 17thC gtr (as, I understand, is yr view - I'm

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Monica Hall
You are correct - but the notes on the 5th course are also supposed to sound in the upper octave. This is a simple 6-4/5-3 cadence on G on the 3rd course. Monica Yes - I did, of course, discount examples where the melody is clearly on the 5th course. Naturally with these tunings

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
What makes you so sure that the notes (ie both strings) of the 5th course are 'also supposed to sound at the upper octave'; doesn't this rather beg the whole question? Like you, my overall position remains that re-entrant tuning was in general use but I'd also like to reserve judgement

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
How about the context? If we would suppose the tuning with 2 bourdons, the P chord in the bar before would be 6-4, the bass connecting to the c in the 2nd bar of the line. That chord would be c minor (root) and the next G major in 6-3. The top melody is likely to be on the 4th c. How about the

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta

2005-09-05 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
I must apologise for that - some of my comments aren't meant to be taken too seriously. I sometimes forget that you might understand what I am saying in a different way. Immediately accepted. Let's all learn Dutch. That is really the whole point. Statements of any kind. I'm afraid the