[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:59 AM 6/19/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: open mic' here at the vihuela bargrill appears to have become dusty of late ... so i'd thought i'd dredge up a fave'-rave', golden oldie and bring it up to date: a review of the book the black swan: impact of the highly improbable in a recent edition

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: like the proverbial kangaroo straight in poker? Perhaps denser than most (or showing my total disinterest in card games), but I have no idea what this analogy is trying to imply. a new comer from back east sits in on a card game out west

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:21 PM 6/19/2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] In most cases outside mathematics, I don't believe in proof. Much of western science is built on the notion of disproof leaving evidence for whatever is left standing; I like that system. Accepting the

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread bill kilpatrick
what intrigured me about this review - the book, i confess, will not be bought - was the idea that certain passions attract certain types of intellect and that what's acceptable in general terms by some may be rejected by others because of specifics. should it arise, i wonder how you (plural)

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:11:43 +0100 (BST) To: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED], vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan The proverbial kangaroo-straight in poker A new comer from back east sits in on a card

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Stuart Walsh
Monica Hall wrote: another example cited in the review - more pertinent here, me thinks - reflects the inability of humans to factor in the possibility of randomness and uncertainty. i would say reluctance rather than inability but the point is made again by saying .. humans have an

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:37 PM 6/19/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: what intrigured me about this review - the book, i confess, will not be bought - was the idea that certain passions attract certain types of intellect and that what's acceptable in general terms by some may be rejected by others because of specifics.

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread wikla
I don't really see any black swan issues here. An instrument is what its contemporary builders and players named it. I don't see nearly as much value in categorizing instrument types into biological-like families as some. Of course, all these things are related and borrow inspiration from

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever folks were calling vihuela in the 1500s might have been very charango-like, but it wasn't a charango because nobody called it that. conversely ... whatever it is that folks (bless you, euge') refer to as charango today might

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread John Griffiths
Dear Arto, the evidence would seem to suggest that there were vihuelas in 16th- century Spain. In very rough terms, the evidence is approximately: - some 70 inventory descriptions - over 60 iconographic representations from the 16th century of flat- backed plucked vihuelas - more than 150 known

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:29 pm Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan --- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever folks were calling vihuela in the 1500s might have been very charango-like,