[VIHUELA] Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Harlan Glotzer
Hello all, I have recently joined this list and it is great. I am gearing up to build my first baroque guitar and am getting more and more excited by the day waiting for the plan (Ashmolean 1642 Rene Voboam). I have built instruments before so I am no stranger to working with wood (and a

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
Welcome! I can't really answer the first part of your question as I am not an instrument maker. In order to answer the second part we need to know what you mean by the Spanish tuning as this is not a recognised definition of any particlar tuning/stringing. And also which part of the Spanish

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Hi Harlan... Some comments from an amateur... I believe I have seen some references to graduating the fret gut as you move up the neck, but I can't remember where. Nonetheless, my guitar uses the same size gut for all the frets, and it was made by a very reputable person who not

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Well said, Monica. There's no doubt that it's easy to change the stringing, and many, if not most, contemporary baroque guitarists do just that. It has no effect one way or the other on the construction of the instrument, indeed. I just wanted to point out that there's no

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread blair
Harlan, I have built and re-fretted a bunch of period instruments (romantic and renaissance guitars, and lutes) and it is likely you will need a few gauges of gut for the frets (gamut strings is the easiest place to get them). If the action is low the first three/four frets will need to be

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Harlan Glotzer
Thank you both for you speedy and detailed replies! I guess I am wondering what the most universally useful stringing would be (bourdons on 4 5, bourdon on 4 only, no bourdons). I do understand that there is no silver bullet stringing that will be perfect for everything and that I will have

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
I just wanted to point out that there's no intrinsic limit to the musicality you can pull out of the instrument if you do opt for a full re-entrant tuning. I couldn't agree more! I am a dedicated re-entrant tuner myself. To my delight someone in Italy has just sent me a

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I'd follow that overthinking line of thought... Pick one, and plunge. Than after a while, pick another and plunge. Don't stick on any one unless you are getting special inspiration from it. Or, if you want to strive for historical accuracy, then you do have to let the composer

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
As far as I am concerned a bourdon on the 4th course but not on the 5th is the answer to every maiden's prayer. It is compromise, and in the real world compromises are what work best. And I think we should re-christen it the English tuning because it is the tuning Corbetta intended for his

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
Well - it is a serious mis-nomer to call the re-entrant tuning Spanish. The Spanish would turn in their graves. What dear old Sanz says is In stringing there is variety, because in Rome musicians string the guitar only with thin strings, without a bourdon on either the fourth or fifth course.

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-01-20 Thread A. J. Ness
Did you see the guitar tablature Toshiaki linked us to? BSB Mus.ms.1522: Alfabeto/mixed guitar tablature (Bavarian provenance): Tabulaturbuch fuer Guitarre [ex-libris:] H. M. Adelaide di Sauoia, Ellettria di Bauaria http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/0005/bsb00050861/images/