: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:36 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Dear List,
At this point I feel compelled to say something about parallel octaves.
If
parallel octaves are continuous, they cease to be parallel octaves and
become orchestration (e.g., organ
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vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:36 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Dear List,
At this point I feel compelled to say something about parallel
octaves. If
parallel octaves are continuous, they cease
That is all very useful!
Monica
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From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
To: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu; Lute List
l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:46 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Hi
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Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 3:09:59 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
There is rather a lot to respond to here!
I don't think it is helpful to bring in Lead Belly. It broadens the scope
of things beyond what it is practical to keep
track
: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Hello Monica,
Your quoting of Sanz reminds me, just after the argument about the unequal
thickness of the strings Sanz goes on to say that
..que con bordones, si haces la letra o punto E...sale la quinta
vacante en quarta baxo
2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Hello Monica,
Your quoting of Sanz reminds me, just after the argument about the unequal
thickness of the strings Sanz goes on to say that
..que con bordones, si haces la letra o punto E...sale la quinta
. In some
ways it would be better to notate it at pitch of two staves.
Monica
Peter
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To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti
: Peter Kooiman pe...@crispu.com
To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Hello Monica,
Your quoting of Sanz reminds me, just after the argument about
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Lex Eisenhardt
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:15 PM
To: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Today the
vihuela is usually tuned in unison
On 24 August 2010 21:52, Alexander Batov
[1]alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com wrote:
OK, I'm glad we agree on this.
Alexander
On 24/08/2010 21:44, Monica Hall wrote:
It's not my rationale! I prefer the msuic without the bourdon on
the 5th course.
I've just been
: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
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Cc: Vihuelalist [3]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re
to use
but your bourdons.
Monica
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Cc: [4]Vihuelalist
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex
Eisenhardt
The problem is that classical guitarists all the time think of the
fourth and fifth courses as sounding in the lower octave and they don't
really listen to what they are actually playing.
With bourdons or
without them, the high octave strings are ever present and they
alter both the
Alfonso Marin wrote:
Dear all,
I have come across some beautiful Youtube videos of Lex Eisenhardt (my former
guitar teacher at the Conservatory of Amsterdam before I studied the lute) that
I well worth watching:
http://www.youtube.com/user/secondolibro
I hope you enjoy them!
Greetings,
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
Yes, there is a little campanella near the end. I don't think there is a
bourdon (if there is I can't hear it); and it's not really necessary for
the music.
Alexander
On 24/08/2010 18:32, Stuart Walsh wrote:
It's great to see
So am I!
Monica
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From: Alexander Batov alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com
To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt
OK, I'm glad we agree
OK, I'm glad we agree on this.
Alexander
On 24/08/2010 21:44, Monica Hall wrote:
It's not my rationale! I prefer the msuic without the bourdon on the
5th course.
I've just been listening to the same suite on the CD which Lex made in
1994 - with the French tuning. Much better in every
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Thank you Alexander - an interesting idea. I've scanned my copy of the
first page of this 'Preludio' and attach it herewith.
You'll see that the same number is put against
I'm copying this to the guitar site since the numbers might mean
something to us as well!
M
--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti
To: John Lenti
Thank you for your excellent work and keeping us informed of your
updates!
-- Rocky
On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Monica Hall wrote:
I have made some minor changes and corrections to my pages about
Bartolotti so if anyone is interested they might want to
download the
revised
At 04:37 PM 10/4/2008, Rob MacKillop wrote:
Bravo, Monica. Excellent stuff, as usual. Makes me want to play
Bartolotti. Thanksalotti...
Rob MacKillop
Me too!
Eugene
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Thanks so much for your work, Monica.
Best,
Jocelyn
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Thanks too, Monica.
Stuart
From: Monica Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 10/4/2008 3:56 PM
To: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Bartolotti
Bravo, Monica. Excellent stuff, as usual. Makes me want to play
Bartolotti. Thanksalotti...
Rob MacKillop
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Thanks so much for your work, Monica.
Best,
Jocelyn
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From: Monica Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 10/4/2008 3:56 PM
To: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Bartolotti
Dear Collective Wisdom
I now
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti query
Are you using the term fully fledged trill as meaning the inclusion
of upper and lower auxiliaries?
Yes. And it seems to me (taking what he has written literally) that
Bartolotti is indicating a descending appoggiatura rather than a trill
Monica,
Are you using the term fully fledged trill as meaning the inclusion
of upper and lower auxiliaries?
Here's my take on Bartolotti's slightly puzzling trill and
appoggiatura examples.
Many of his examples begin with an example of what a player would see
notated in the tablature
Many thanks to all who replied. I think we are all agreed that it is two
quick upstrokes not one. Pity he didn't explain it in the introduction!
Monica
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Sent: 17 June 2008 14:01
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Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti query
Many thanks to all who replied. I think we are all agreed that it is
two
quick upstrokes not one. Pity he didn't
I would play them middle finger up, index finger up, but not two separate
movements, just one flick of the hand. It might be akin to the tied quavers
often seen in gamba or violin music where the bow doesn't change direction
but digs in again, all in one movement. If that is the case, then two
Dear Monica and [vihue]list
What about all those lettere tagliate chords without suspensions, or
other
figures that ask for a 6th finger? Without an unquestionable explanation
for
those, your theory seems to have an open end.
I am afraid so does yours - what about all those 6/4 chords
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