I have had a bit more time to look at this.....

In the message which Martyn posted on 7th January commenting on an 
earlier message
of mine he said -

"Simply overlooked is that the majority of pieces after F. 67 are in 
keys
where low G is at least as helpful as for the works on in the following
keys of G, F. Cand D - BUT the scribe writes the G at the upper 
octave:"

"a distinctive feature of the guitar, but not not of the period 
mandora, etc."

"Good practical examples include: the Echo on f68 where the penultimate
bar would better with a low sixth course G - but the scribe writes a 
high
third course, guitar appropriate g and numerous similar examples."

However I would point out 

On f.69v-f.70r there is a boure evidently intended to be played by two 
mandoras.
In Boure Mandora 1a there is  skip of a 7th in the bass line in bar 3 
and bar 11 
In Boure Mandora 2a there also is a skip of a 7th in the bass line in 
bar 3 and
in bar 11 (the fourth bar on the first stave of f.70r).

It is a reasonable assumption that the 5-course pieces at least as far 
as f.76r 
are for a 5-course mandora. That probably explains why there are two 
versions of 
the Losy piece.

The pieces from f.76v may be for 5-course guitar – which is what I 
suggested. 
(Martyn clearly had not read my message when commenting on it). 
 
There are quite a few 5-part chords and in one place there is an 
indication that
the chords should be strummed.
In the untitled piece on f.88r the two A major chords in bar 8 are to 
be strummed.

The most likely explanation seems to me to be that the "gytarra" is a 5-
course mandora with one
additional unstopped bass.  The pieces from f.48v-f.59v are for 
gytarra; those from f.60r-
f.76r are for a 5-course mandora; and those from f.76v-f.95r numbered 1-
56 for 5-course guitar.

It is better not to jump to conclusions about complex documents of this 
kind. 

Because Martyn thought it was appropriate to send his lengthy message 
not only to this list, 
but to the Baroque Lute list and even the Lute List as well, it only 
appears on
the Baroque Lute list. 

In the future I suggest he sends his messages only to the list where 
the discussion is 
taking place. Also that he reads the message he is replying to all the 
way through and then 
composes a concise and coherent reply. If necessary you can copy and 
paste the passages which
you need to refer to.   It is not helpful to go through a message 
inserting
comments at random especially on the list where any kind of formatting 
is not reproduced. 

As ever

Monica









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