[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Whoops . De Visee used Corbetta's 'French' tuning ie bourdon on the 4th only. I suspect other contemorary French players did also (eg Carre, De la Grange, Grenerin). If there is any hard evidence for each source I'm sure Monica will be able to tell us definitively. M.

[VIHUELA] Re: guitar publications with harmonics

2010-11-21 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Nov 21, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: By not much, as you cannot do them on double strings. Why not? Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [1]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ [2]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ -- References 1.

[VIHUELA] Re: guitar publications with harmonics

2010-11-21 Thread Fabio Rizza
Il 20/11/2010 23:07, Nelson, Jocelyn ha scritto: Hello early guitarists, I just received a query: “Do you know the earliest publications for lute and/or guitar in which harmonics were used?” Any thoughts? Thanks, Jocelyn One of the first works that come to my mind is Mauro Giuliani's

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 21/11/2010 09:45, Lex Eisenhardt wrote: Even Carre has mentioned the 4th course bourdon, halfway his book. Some have taken this as an indication that he wanted French tuning for accompani ment (compare Sanz). We can't be sure. I only know the first publication of Carré. At the end of the

[VIHUELA] Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Dear Arto, is there any repertoire/composer of baroque guitar that/who without any modern disagreement definitely used the double re-entrant tuning - the 5th and 4th having only in the upper octaves? De Visee perhaps? The tuning chart in Visee's first book, to which

[VIHUELA] Re: guitar publications with harmonics

2010-11-21 Thread Monica Hall
It is not a published work but one of the pieces in manuscript added probably in about 1741 to Campion's book uses harmonics. It is the first fugue. It's on p.117 in the facsimile edition. Monica - Original Message - From: Nelson, Jocelyn nels...@ecu.edu To: Monica Hall

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Monica Hall
Here we go again. The only person who unequivocally states that his music is for the fully re-entrant tuning is Valdambrini. (And very few people unequivocally state that their music is for any other specific tuning). I don't thank that Murcia's Resumen or Matteis is intended for the fully

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Stewart, I think Carre is very doubtful as being fully re-entrant for reasons given earlier; in short, tunings probably lifted from Mersenne and possibly garbled. All French guitarists of this period were clearly heavily influenced by Corbetta (cf. his 'developed' French

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Monica Hall
Well here for the record are my views on these two. Carbonchi explicitly says he has published his book in French tablature to make it accessible to foreign players. Read into that what you like. and wait for it Calvi's book is partly a plagiarised version of Corbetta's 1639 book. The

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread wikla
Thanks to everyone for introducing b-guitar to a theorbist! While thinking of b-guitar I had to tube some strumming on b-lute, a Sarabande by Mercure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTZKpXIx1Dg Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

2010-11-21 Thread Monica Hall
Lovely Arto. Nice to know that lutenists do it too. Monica - Original Message - From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Any b-guitar repertoire in all re-entrant accepted by all?

[VIHUELA] Valdambrini's evidence

2010-11-21 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Ed, Yes, although I can't put my hand on the facsimile to check his exact words. You can see Romulo Vega-Gonzalez playing one of Newsidler's pieces with Durchstreicher on YouTube: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PA-b_q0i4Uplaynext=1list=PL62023B2 E6C817318index=56