[VIHUELA] Re: The Chittarra atiorbata and Guittare theorbee

2020-08-12 Thread Mjos & Larson
Thank you, Monica! — Rocky > On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Monica Hall wrote: > > Dear All > > I have at last revised and substantially enlarged my study of these enigmatic > instruments. You will find the revised pdf at > > https://monicahall.co.uk > > in the section > > The Chittarra

[VIHUELA] Re: Giustiniani

2020-04-13 Thread Matthew Daillie
I'll send it to you as a pdf file. Best, Matthew On 13 avr. 2020, at 16:22, Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Thanks - that very helpful. If anyone has a link to the original Italian that would also be a help. Monica -- References 1.

[VIHUELA] Re: Giustiniani

2020-04-13 Thread Monica Hall
Thanks - that very helpful. If anyone has a link to the original Italian that would also be a help. Monica > On 13 April 2020 at 14:04 Matthew Daillie wrote: > > >Dear Monica, > >You'll find an English translation of it here: > >

[VIHUELA] Re: Giustiniani

2020-04-13 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear Monica, You'll find an English translation of it here: [1]http://www.sscm-jscm.org/v9/no1/stein.html#ch4 [2]http://www.sscm-jscm.org/v9/no1/stein.html Best, Matthew On Apr 13, 2020, at 13:08, Monica Hall <[3]mjlh...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear List

[VIHUELA] Re: Mersenne reference

2020-02-05 Thread Monica Hall
Many thanks to you too. Wonderful resource this list! Monica > On 05 February 2020 at 10:21 Azalais wrote: > > There is a ref here: http://moliere.huma-num.fr/base.php?Chromatique > > And with different spelling of the text here: > ( apres auoir remarqué que le genre Chromatic a

[VIHUELA] Re: Mersenne reference

2020-02-05 Thread Monica Hall
Many thanks to both of you. I was able to find it very quickly with your help. Monica > On 05 February 2020 at 10:31 Peter Kooiman wrote: > > > Livre Second, Theoreme II, page 322 > > Free copy an Google Books (hit the red "Read ebook" link on the left) > >

[VIHUELA] Re: Mersenne reference

2020-02-05 Thread Peter Kooiman
Livre Second, Theoreme II, page 322 Free copy an Google Books (hit the red "Read ebook" link on the left) https://books.google.com/books?id=fVsiWYQUGpcC -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Monica Hall Sent: Wednesday 5 February 2020 11:01 To:

[VIHUELA] Re: Mersenne reference

2020-02-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
[1]MERHU2_5_TEXT MERHU2_5_TEXT On Wednesday, 5 February 2020, 10:02:49 GMT, Monica Hall wrote: I just wondered whether any kind soul familiar with Mersenne's monumental work could Identify which Book/Chapter/page number in Harmonie universelle. the following quote

[VIHUELA] Re: Novel about Corbetta

2019-12-10 Thread Azalais
Thank you, Monica! I'm almost nostalgic for the aroma and tactile pleasure of an analog book, and yes, let's hope there will be a film!! azalais On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:50 AM Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Just as a matter of general interest.

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Monica Hall
Well - the writer seems to be in favour of a string length of 61.5 cms. He is primarily concerned with the music of Sanz and seems to be suggesting that "Italian masters" strung their guitars with a bourdon only on the 4th course, but high octave strings on the second, third and fifth courses.

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
And a surprise to me too - since this suggestion isn't supported by the evidence of Strad's stringing instructions! For example the violin stringing sizes of Tartini/Riccati (eighteenth century) applied to the guitar: - on the fourth course the instructions pretty clearly suggest a

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Monica Hall
Hi Martyn Thank you for this. I've read your article several times and I think I have understood it although when it comes anything mathematical I am seriously challenged. What I was really wondering was - these instructions obviously apply to the chitarra atiorbata but should we assume that

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Have a look at FoMRHI Comm 663 (Bulletin 41, October 1985) in which I report on two early sources of recorded violin string diameters (Tartini's and Riccati's) and their application to Strad's instructions for the chitarra tiorbata. Here's the link

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-13 Thread Monica Hall
There are no illustrations of the guitarre theorbee. All that we know about it is that there are twelve short pieces in the Gallot ms. (GB:Ob Ms.Mus.Sch.C94) in French tablature. There are no instructions as to how the instrument was tuned or strung. You have to try and work this

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Monica Hall
Unfortunately the source - the Gallot ms. - gives no information about the stringing or tuning or for that matter the pitch. Therein lies the problem. The method of stringing suggested in the article eliminates all the quirks in the music, in particular the skip of a 7th in the bass line which

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Why are the first five open (unstopped) basses thought to be at the lower octave? - is the source absolutely clear and wholly unambiguous about this (I've not yet seen the EM article myself)? Leaving aside the length of the long basses required to extend the range down to contrabass

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Monica Hall
Well - the pieces in the Gallot Ms. - the only known source of music for the instrument - are all solo pieces and are in C major or C minor. Some are found in other arrangements in other sources - one of them is in Scottish Lute Ms. “Pamure 5” and is on your CD. The two lowest course seem to

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Monica Hall
Sorry if it is not clear. It is a twelve course instrument. There are five courses on the fingerboard and seven unstopped basses. >From 1st course down the tuning is e' c' g c B (1-5 on the fingerboard); unstopped courses are F E D C B,(B below the bass stave) a g; 6-12 unstopped. There is a

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Monica Hall
To clarify - the fifth unstopped course is an octave lower than the fifth course on the fingerboard. In Helmholtz notation the low b is shown as B, = i.e. upper case B with a comma after it - this isn't very clear in my message. It is not entirely unusual to have the two lowest courses a tone

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread SW
Monica, this tuning seems very odd? Fifth course a semitone lower than fourth course? Same note B on two courses (fifth course on fingerboard and fifth unstopped course)? On 12 June 2019, at 12:08, Monica Hall wrote: The latest issue of Early Music has a short article on the guitarre

[VIHUELA] Re: Temperaments & Fretting on Early Guitars

2019-05-20 Thread Edward C. Yong
Thank you to everyone who replied! > On 12 May 2019, at 4:17 PM, Martyn Hodgson > wrote: > > Dear Edward, > The problem with employing an unequal temperament on the five course > guitar is the prevalence of sliding chord shapes employed on every fret > in much of the extant repertoire

[VIHUELA] Re: Temperaments & Fretting on Early Guitars

2019-05-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Edward, The problem with employing an unequal temperament on the five course guitar is the prevalence of sliding chord shapes employed on every fret in much of the extant repertoire - ie Alfabeto. This has also been pointed out in previous communications and papers. M.H.

[VIHUELA] Re: Temperaments & Fretting on Early Guitars

2019-05-12 Thread David van Ooijen
I use 1/4-comma MT on my B-guitar when needed. High first fret with tastini (singular?) for g# on 3rd string (E-major chord!). David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On

[VIHUELA] Re: London visit

2019-04-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Jocelyn, Good that you're coming over next month. I don't usually attend Lute Soc meetings (too far from the Yorkshire Dales for a grand day out!) but I'll try to make that on 11th May. regards, Martyn On Tuesday, 2 April 2019, 02:34:22 BST, Nelson, Jocelyn wrote:

[VIHUELA] Re: 19th c. guitars and strings

2019-02-09 Thread War ner
Hi Eugene, Yes I've used bow brand harp gut for my 19th century guitar and I like it. If you play with nails, the polished gut can be very pleasant and prevents that sound of the nail sliding on the string. In my experience, the sound is darker than nylgut, but brighter than nylon.

[VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas

2018-12-01 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
uot;Monica Hall"<[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "Vihuelalist"<[6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas Guitar Review Nr 40 from 1976. I have that. It's an article with some transcriptions. David **

[VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas

2018-12-01 Thread Azalais
Cc: "Vihuelalist"<[6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas Guitar Review Nr 40 from 1976. I have that. It's an article with some transcriptions. David *** David van Ooijen

[VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas

2018-12-01 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Hall" Cc: "Vihuelalist" Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Rodrigo de Zayas Guitar Review Nr 40 from 1976. I have that. It's an article with some transcriptions. David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]w

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-11-09 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Very good! Lex -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu Verzonden: vrijdag 9 november 2018 11:35 Aan: VihuelaList Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Corbetta Just for the record - I am revising my web pages devoted to

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta 1639

2018-08-05 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thanks for this. I think it must be a 3. 5 doesn't really make much sense. The basic chord N has a 4 because it is an A flat major chord. I just like to consider every possible permutation before deciding on the obvious! Monica Original Message From: dshos...@mac.com Date:

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta 1639

2018-08-04 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
The pdf I have is not bad and there is nothing visible above the bottom line (top course) for the N chord. 3 or 5 possible although 5 1 1 1 1 would be a nasty stretch (at least for me!) > On Aug 3, 2018, at 5:36 AM, mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: > > Has anyone got a decent digital copy of

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta 1643

2018-04-29 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thanks Arthur. I have the SPES edition. It was this edition published in Pavia that I am trying to get hold of. I expect it is out of print. I wonder if anyone happens to know Giangiacomo Pinardi. Best Monica Original Message From: arthurjn...@verizon.net Date: 29/04/2018 11:46 To:

[VIHUELA] Re: German translations

2018-04-24 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
. If you didn't intend it to appear on the list I must apologise for the faux pas. Best wishes Monica Original Message From: heiman.dan...@juno.com Date: 24/04/2018 7:02 To: <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, <pe...@crispu.com> Subj: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: German translations Monica:

[VIHUELA] Re: German translations

2018-04-23 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
translations would be very helpful. thank you Monica Original Message From: pe...@crispu.com Date: 23/04/2018 13:16 To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk"<mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, "heiman.daniel@juno. com"<heiman.dan...@juno.com> Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.

[VIHUELA] Re: German translations

2018-04-23 Thread Peter Kooiman
Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> On Behalf Of mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:02 PM To: heiman.dan...@juno.com Cc: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: German translations Thank you very much for your

[VIHUELA] Re: German translations

2018-04-23 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thank you very much for your help. I thought the spelling might be odd because I couldn't find some of the words in the dictionary. Nor could Google translate. Best wishes Monica Original Message From: heiman.dan...@juno.com Date: 23/04/2018 12:34 To: Subj:

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-04-03 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thank you! Monica Original Message From: rockype...@comcast.net Date: 03/04/2018 16:18 To: "Monica Hall" Cc: "Rob MacKillop", "VihuelaList", "Nelson, Jocelyn" Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Corbetta I’ll add

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-04-03 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
lt;robmackil...@gmail.com> Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta I agree with Rob, Monica, thank you for your work. Here in North Carolina it was a wonderful thing to see first thing in the morning. I enjoyed exploring a bit of it before getting int

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-04-03 Thread Mjos & Larson
I’ll add my voice to the thanks, too! — Rocky Mjos On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Nelson, Jocelyn wrote: > I agree with Rob, Monica, thank you for your work. Here in North Carolina it > was a wonderful thing to see first thing in the morning. I enjoyed exploring > a bit of it

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-04-03 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
I agree with Rob, Monica, thank you for your work. Here in North Carolina it was a wonderful thing to see first thing in the morning. I enjoyed exploring a bit of it before getting into the daily grind. Regards, Jocelyn -- Jocelyn Nelson, DMA Teaching Assistant Professor Early Guitar, Music

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta

2018-04-03 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thank you for your kind words. Hope you are having a pleasant Easter break. Monica Original Message From: robmackil...@gmail.com Date: 03/04/2018 12:26 To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" Cc: "VihuelaList" Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Corbetta Wow. Well

[VIHUELA] Re: MS CZ- Bm D 189 - the Last Post

2018-02-12 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Dear Martyn I am sorry to have denied you the opportunity to fully reply to my message of 31 Jan and its various inconsistencies and 'misrepresentations'. I prefer to consider my inconsistencies and “misrepresentation”s as an attempt to keep an open mind and examine different ideas about what

[VIHUELA] Re: Regarding: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - weathering the storm!

2018-02-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
levant on that list. If the mandora were a guitar I wouldn't. = __ From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; "vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> S

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; Baroque Lute List <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018, 10:07 Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-09 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
16:43 To: "vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2 From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; Vi

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" ; VihuelaList ; Baroque Lute List Sent: Friday, 9 February 2018, 14:26 Subject: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-01-30 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
tiscali.co.uk>, "vihuela@cs. dartmouth.edu"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! 2 Dear Monica, I don't usually 'knee-jerk' these things but was truly astonished at your wild reaction (below) to my calm email yesterday in

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-01-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
outh.edu" <mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Cc: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018, 20:28 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! Obviously it will take me some ti

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack!

2018-01-29 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: 29/01/2018 17:16 To: "vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! - Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Monica Hall <mjlh...@ti

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack!

2018-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Monica Hall ; VihuelaList ; Baroque Lute List Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018, 17:01 Subject: Moravsky MS (CZ

[VIHUELA] Re: Campanelle

2018-01-26 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Slightly changed, hopefully improved… [1]http://www.lexeisenhardt.com/file/Campanelle.pdf Van: Lex Eisenhardt [mailto:lex.eisenha...@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 24 januari 2018 22:01 Aan: Vihuelalist (vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu) Onderwerp: Campanelle Today I uploaded

[VIHUELA] Re: Campanelle

2018-01-25 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thank you - Lex - that's all very interesting. Incidentally Medard includes an example of a "Campanelle" in 1676 and there are campanelle passages in some of the works attributed to Corbetta in the Gallot Ms. Monica Original Message From: lex.eisenha...@gmail.com Date: 24/01/2018

[VIHUELA] Re: Campanelle

2018-01-25 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Thanks. I'll take a look. Lex -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] Verzonden: donderdag 25 januari 2018 10:27 Aan: lex.eisenha...@gmail.com; Vihuelalist Onderwerp: Re: [VIHUELA] Campanelle Thank you - Lex - that's all very interesting.

[VIHUELA] Re: A few more thought on the Moravian Ms.CZ-Bm D189

2018-01-20 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I have had a bit more time to look at this. In the message which Martyn posted on 7th January commenting on an earlier message of mine he said - "Simply overlooked is that the majority of pieces after F. 67 are in keys where low G is at least as helpful as for the works on in the following

[VIHUELA] Re: Even more to yet moRe: re. Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
. Best wishes for 2018. Martyn =========== - - Forwarded Message - From: "[15]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <[16]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: VihuelaList <[17]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thur

[VIHUELA] Re: Yet more Re: [VIHUELAR) Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-08 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Thank you Daniel - it is really nice to hear some of the music we are discussing. Best Monica Original Message From: dshos...@mac.com Date: 07/01/2018 23:01 To: "Monica Hall"<mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sub

[VIHUELA] Re: Yet more Re: [VIHUELAR) Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-07 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
enteenth century guitar music) but more > to > do with therather different musical style and texture of the later > (early/mid) eighteenthcentury period.Regarding the placing of the high > octave string on the bass side as generaleighteenth practice, the > only source from the earl

[VIHUELA] Re: Yet more Re: [VIHUELAR) Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-07 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
in D189 as well as the interesting works by Diesel later in the century and others...Best wishes for 2018. Martyn -  - Forwarded Message -   From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>   To: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-06 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Best wishes for 2018. Martyn - Forwarded Message - From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2018, 15:12 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-04 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
later music. But, of course, this is something of a subjective judgement... Martyn From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: dshos...@mac.com Cc: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2018, 20:28 Subject: [VIHUELA

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Cc: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2018, 20:28 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript The music in tablature appears to be for 5-course guitar. There are a few 5-part chords which could be strummed but it seems to be mainly in

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-04 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Donnerstag, 04. Januar 2018 10:59 CET, "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" schrieb: > Updating it yet again - I keep getting interrupted - but the tuning > chart seems to indicate that the 5th course is tuned in unison with the > third course stopped at the 2nd fret which

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-04 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
ret which would make it re-entrant. > Monica > > Original Message > From: mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk > Date: 04/01/2018 9:51 > To: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript > > Updating my previous message -

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-04 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
To: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript Updating my previous message - and having looked more carefully at the manuscript I am not sure that all the music in tablature is for 5- course guitar. The pieces on p.50-61 seem to require

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-04 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
of alfabeto chords and a tuning chart apparently for 5-course guitar. Original Message From: mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Date: 04/01/2018 9:48 To: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript I had a bit more time to look at this - I act

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-04 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
at all the pieces - about 50 pages of them. Maybe one day. Monica Original Message From: dshos...@mac.com Date: 04/01/2018 0:17 To: <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript Sadly the only inf

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
s read this. > > Monica > > > > Original Message > From: dshos...@mac.com > Date: 03/01/2018 19:02 > To: "WALSH STUART"<s.wa...@ntlworld.com> > Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Monica Hall" > <mjlh..

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
or gallichon. Martyn may know more about it if he has read this. Monica Original Message From: dshos...@mac.com Date: 03/01/2018 19:02 To: "WALSH STUART"<s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: "VihuelaList"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Monica Hall"

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread WALSH STUART
On 1/3/2018 7:02 PM, DANIEL SHOSKES wrote: Sorry, let's try a dropbox: [1]https://www.dropbox.com/s/oaqfczqgfio4gao/Losy-GuitareEtMan dore.pdf?dl=0 Thanks! This MS has come up before - but I can't remember where. Possibly on this vihuela list so it may be worth checking the

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
Sorry, let’s try a dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oaqfczqgfio4gao/Losy-GuitareEtMandore.pdf?dl=0 > On Jan 3, 2018, at 1:57 PM, WALSH STUART wrote: > > On 1/3/2018 5:07 PM, DANIEL SHOSKES

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread WALSH STUART
On 1/3/2018 5:07 PM, DANIEL SHOSKES wrote: I’ve come across the Moravsky manuscript which is an interesting mix of bandora, baroque guitar, “6 string/course” guitar and other works in standard notation. Much music of Losy (Logy). A link is here:

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript

2018-01-03 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
I wasn't able to access the facsimile of this manuscript so can't really comment in details. However I think it is a bit doubtful whether Losy actually composed any music specifically for the guitar; what survives in manuscript may be arrangements of lute pieces. It is also unlikely that he

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta manuscripts

2017-10-26 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
I don't think it is. All I have is an ancient photocopy of it. Maybe Eloy Cruz would know. Cheers Monica Original Message From: andywh...@optusnet.com.au Date: 26/10/2017 10:33 To: <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta manuscripts Monica, Is the M

[VIHUELA] Re: Corbetta manuscripts

2017-10-26 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Thanks, Monica. This is very interesting! Best wishes, Lex -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Verzonden: donderdag 26 oktober 2017 09:49 Aan: VihuelaList Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Corbetta manuscripts Just

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations

2017-07-27 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
: Nelson, Jocelyn Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:49 AM To: Ralf Mattes; Martyn Hodgson Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations ​Hi Martyn, This is a great question! Short answer: I say somewhat quicker through software, and much quicker

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations

2017-07-27 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
lyn; Ralf Mattes Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations Dear Jocelyn, One of the difficulties I personally find with these typesetting softwares is the length of time it takes to actually input the music (either staff notation or tablature),

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations

2017-07-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
__ From: "Nelson, Jocelyn" <nels...@ecu.edu> To: Ralf Mattes <r...@mh-freiburg.de> Cc: Vihuelalist <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017, 1:57 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations T

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations

2017-07-25 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
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2017-07-25 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017 17:04 CEST, "Nelson, Jocelyn" schrieb: > Thanks so much, Ralf. I tried your advice and the tablature is just the way I > want it now. > I'm sticking with this program because it's free and relatively easy; And it's actually Oen Source and Free

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2017-07-25 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
From: Ralf Mattes <r...@mh-freiburg.de> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 12:58 PM To: Ralf Mattes Cc: Nelson, Jocelyn; Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re=3A?=_=5BVIHUELA=5D?=_Re=3A?= _Re=3D3A=3F=3D=5F=3D5BVIHUELA=3D5D=3F=3D?= Notation software recommendations=3D3F=3F=3D?= Silly

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2017-07-24 Thread Ralf Mattes
Silly me, I forgot to answer your question. To change the string tuning, go to the 'Staff Properties' dialog, all the way at the bottom you'll find 'Number of strings' and next to that a button labled 'Edit string data'. Once you click that you find a dialog where you can remove strings and

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2017-07-24 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Montag, 24. Juli 2017 16:49 CEST, "Nelson, Jocelyn" schrieb: > Thanks so much for this, Ralf! I went ahead and downloaded it and have been > trying it out. I like it so far. > > One question: Do the tablatures (I'm using the uke tab for my renaissance > 4-course)

[VIHUELA] Re: Re=3A?=_=5BVIHUELA=5D?= Notation software recommendations=3F?=

2017-07-24 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
for Fuenllana's tablature. Thanks again, Jocelyn From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Ralf Mattes <r...@mh-freiburg.de> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 7:39 AM To: Nelson, Jocelyn Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: [VI

[VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211

2017-07-21 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
gt; Cc: <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Good morning, Monica! > You must enjoy cross-word puzzles. Because you have something similar puzzle in dealing with XLb.209 and b.211. Here is

[VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211

2017-07-21 Thread Arthur Ness
Good morning, Monica! > You must enjoy cross-word puzzles. Because you have something similar puzzle in dealing with XLb.209 and b.211. Here is some additional information from Boetticher's RISM inventory: > b.209 has penciled foliation 1-73 (perhaps with the blank pages

[VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211

2017-07-20 Thread Arthur Ness
Monica, I didn't see b.211 in the LSA library. Maybe I just missed it. Speaking of blank pages. We've got the world's champion blank page scribe. Wolfgang Boetticher's RISM Bvii "descriptive" catalogue of Lauten- und Gitarrentabulaturen has hundreds of manuscripts listed. But

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread David van Ooijen
@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of DANIEL SHOSKES <[6]dshos...@mac.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:25 PM > To: Nelson, Jocelyn > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations? > > I r

[VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211

2017-07-20 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Dear Arthur Thank you for this. I have copies of the manuscripts from the LSA - but the pages are not numbered and also not very legible. Some pages seem to be missing as well or in the wrong order. But at least it is useful to know that they are not easy to get hold of! A pity but that's life

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
DANIEL SHOSKES <dshos...@mac.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:25 PM > To: Nelson, Jocelyn > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations? > > I run Fronimo and Django on a Mac using VMware Fusion and it also is a good > solution. > &

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
Thanks, Danny! From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of DANIEL SHOSKES <dshos...@mac.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:25 PM To: Nelson, Jocelyn Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software rec

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread DANIEL SHOSKES
s <azal...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:09 PM > To: Nelson, Jocelyn > Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations? > > ps. I just checked the Fandango library and the Fuenllana pieces are > not there... yet. sorry. > On Thu, Jul

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
__ From: Azalais <azal...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:09 PM To: Nelson, Jocelyn Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations? ps. I just checked the Fandango library and the Fuenllana pieces are not there... yet.

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread Nelson, Jocelyn
Does Fronimo work on mac? I used it some years ago on a PC, but I'm using a mac now. J From: Rob MacKillop Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:47 PM To: Nelson, Jocelyn Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Notation software

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations?

2017-07-20 Thread corun
Have you tried Fronimo? It does a pretty easy conversion from tab to standard notation. Craig -Original Message- From: Nelson, Jocelyn [mailto:nels...@ecu.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:27 PM To: 'Vihuelalist' Subject: [VIHUELA] Notation software

[VIHUELA] Re: Viola da Mano

2017-07-11 Thread Braig, Eugene
Larry Brown of Cincinnati, Ohio made at least one a few years back. It looked kinda like this: https://www.facebook.com/larry.brown.7731/media_set?set=a.3563529365361.2163252.1186656697=3 Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[VIHUELA] Re: Viola da Mano

2017-07-11 Thread Edward Chrysogonus Yong
Dear Lutenetters, Thank you for the help! Yours faithfully, Edward C. Yong τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη. Hæ litteræ electronicæ ab iPhono missæ sunt. 此電子郵件發送于自吾iPhone。 This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. > On 10 Jul 2017, at 4:26 PM, Edward C. Yong

[VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo

2017-07-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Lute List <l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Vihuela Dmth <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, 10 July 2017, 9:45 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo You might want to check Robert Barto's articles in the LSA Quarterly and his recent workshops on dedillo. Best,

[VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo

2017-07-10 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
...@gmail.com>, "'Lute List'"<lute@cs. dartmouth.edu>, "'Vihuela Dmth'"<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo Thanks Lex, This (and other clips sent to me) certainly show the index being used on its own. But t

[VIHUELA] Re=3A?=_=5BVIHUELA=5D?= Viola da Mano

2017-07-10 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Montag, 10. Juli 2017 10:26 CEST, "Edward C. Yong" schrieb: >Hello vihuela list, >Out of curiosity, is anyone apart from Mr Alexander Batov making viole >da mano in the Girolamo dai Libri shape, with the sharp C side cutouts >like a viola da gamba?

[VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo

2017-07-10 Thread Matthew Daillie
You might want to check Robert Barto's articles in the LSA Quarterly and his recent workshops on dedillo. Best, Matthew > On Jul 9, 2017, at 17:04, Martyn Hodgson > wrote: > > Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early >

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