mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread aff



hi

i'd like to get as large an archive as possible of this list in mbox
format. Looking around I don't see any archive in mbox format
surprisingly, does anyone know if this exists?

thanks!


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



hi

i'd like to get as large an archive as possible of this list in mbox
format. Looking around I don't see any archive in mbox format
surprisingly, does anyone know if this exists?

thanks!



I've been archiving the vim, vim-dev and vim-multibyte lists locally, ever 
since I switched over to Linux. The file is 19 meg by now. Shall I send it to 
you as attachment by private email?



Best regards,
Tony.
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LAUNCELOT: Camelot ...
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Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

steven smith wrote:

A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
I've been archiving the vim, vim-dev and vim-multibyte lists locally, 
ever since I switched over to Linux. The file is 19 meg by now. Shall 
I send it to you as attachment by private email?



Please make sure you strip out any email addresses before you do that.

Thank you
Steve S.



No. Either you get it as it came through the list, or you don't; I'm not gonna 
lose timeeffort at editing a file which I'm providing as is as a 
convenience to some other Vimmer.


Email addresses were sent to the list, so what's the matter?


Best regards,
Tony.
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-- Bohr


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread aff

thank you! That would be perfect. If it's not too much trouble I wonder if
you could send four 5 meg files, you can split easily with:

split --verbose -b 500 Mboxfile 'vim.'

I just tested that I can receive those, but a 19 M file will get a reject.

if it's a hassle never mind I don't wish to trouble you.

thank you.
Arnold








A.J.Mechelynck
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 hi

 i'd like to get as large an archive as possible of this list in mbox
 format. Looking around I don't see any archive in mbox format
 surprisingly, does anyone know if this exists?

 thanks!


 I've been archiving the vim, vim-dev and vim-multibyte lists locally, ever
 since I switched over to Linux. The file is 19 meg by now. Shall I send it
 to
 you as attachment by private email?


 Best regards,
 Tony.
 --
 GALAHAD:   Camelot ...
 LAUNCELOT: Camelot ...
 GAWAIN:It's only a model.
   Monty Python and the Holy Grail PYTHON (MONTY)
 PICTURES LTD




Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread Yeti
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
 Other lists I've been on save archives with no addresses or addresses 
 mangled I think.

If you look at http://marc.info/?l=vim-devr=1w=2, the
addresses are indeed mangled, but in such a way that anyone
with two brain cells and perl interpreter can demangle them.

Maybe it's easier for a spammer to join the list and talk to
people, hoping that someone will present him the archives on
a silver plate.  Maybe not.

Yeti

--
http://gwyddion.net/


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Polatel wrote:

A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi
i'd like to get as large an archive as possible of this list in mbox
format. Looking around I don't see any archive in mbox format
surprisingly, does anyone know if this exists?
thanks!
 I've been archiving the vim, vim-dev and vim-multibyte lists locally, ever 
 since I switched over to Linux. The file is 19 meg by now. Shall I send it 
 to you as attachment by private email?




 Hi,
 I was reading the vim mailing list today and saw this post :) I would
be very happy if you can send me the archives of vim and vim-dev when
you have time..
 thanks!



Hmm... This post of mine seems to be eliciting two kinds of reactions: Me 
too, me too and Don't, you fool, he may be a spammer harvesting addresses.


I think I'll leave it on the backburner for a while, waiting for the situation 
to clarify. Comments, anyone?



Best regards,
Tony.
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   We're knights of the round table
   We dance whene'er we're able
   We do routines and chorus scenes
   With footwork impeccable.
   We dine well here in Camelot
   We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.
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Re[2]: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Tue, 29 May 2007, A.J.Mechelynck apparently wrote: 
 Hmm... This post of mine seems to be eliciting two kinds 
 of reactions: Me too, me too and Don't, you fool, he 
 may be a spammer harvesting addresses. 

 I think I'll leave it on the backburner for a while, 
 waiting for the situation to clarify. Comments, anyone? 

- Probability that this is a spammer request: approx 0.
  Old addresses aren't much use.
  Spammers aren't so polite.
  Etc.
- To make it zero, see if he has ever posted to the list...
- sed s/@[A-Za-z]\+/@xxx/g archivefile  archivefile2send

Cheers,
Alan Isaac






Re: Re[2]: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread fREW

On 5/29/07, Alan G Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2007, A.J.Mechelynck apparently wrote:
 Hmm... This post of mine seems to be eliciting two kinds
 of reactions: Me too, me too and Don't, you fool, he
 may be a spammer harvesting addresses.

 I think I'll leave it on the backburner for a while,
 waiting for the situation to clarify. Comments, anyone?

- Probability that this is a spammer request: approx 0.
  Old addresses aren't much use.
  Spammers aren't so polite.
  Etc.
- To make it zero, see if he has ever posted to the list...
- sed s/@[A-Za-z]\+/@xxx/g archivefile  archivefile2send

Cheers,
Alan Isaac







The interesting thing is that the guy who is in question of being a
spammer is the same guy who asked for safeguards against that type of
thing...

--
-fREW


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread aff

Ehehe never mind about this, I had no idea this would stir everyone up.

I consider it fairly normal for list archives to be offered in mbox format
(ex. Lua and Template Toolkit and 5 million others) and like to keep them
around, since I can just drop them right into local folders in thunderbird
 for searching. Especially handy for offline, and for not having to rely
on someone's frontend to search the archives for difficult to find things,
that I know are buried someplace in the archive.

Looking at the commands I can issue to the listmanager, looks like I can
whip out something that will make me an archive so all good.

thanks for your offer though AJ.

A.




Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Tim Chase wrote:
Hmm... This post of mine seems to be eliciting two kinds of reactions: 
Me too, me too and Don't, you fool, he may be a spammer harvesting 
addresses.


I think I'll leave it on the backburner for a while, waiting for the 
situation to clarify. Comments, anyone?


This is the vim list, after all...surely a quick regexp to mangle/hide 
the email adderesses could be applied across any such files?  I don't 
know the inner workings of mbox (all in one file?  multiple files in one 
directory?), but some short work with argdo should take care of it :)


mbox is (IIUC) the format used by Thunderbird, Outlook Express (but not 
Outlook), and many other mailers for what they misleadingly call email 
folders. Each folder is a single file (from the OS's viewpoint). Email 
headers are included. Any munging I would do would be applied equally to 
headers and body.




 sh$ cd /path/to/vim/mbox
 sh$ mkdir ../munged
 sh$ cp * ../munged
 sh$ cd ../munged
 sh$ vim *
 :set hidden
 :argdo 
%s/[EMAIL PROTECTED])+/\=substitute(substitute(submatch(0), 
'\.', ' [DOT] ', 'g'), '@', ' [AT] NoSpAm.', 'g')/g

 :wqa
 sh$ cd ..
 sh$ tar cvfz vim_ml.tgz munged

It may mung a bit more or less redacting than one actually wants, but 
for the most part, it should stave off the fears that the OP is a spam 
harvester.  My inkling is that such is not the case...there are a lot 
more fertile grounds for harvesting addresses than personally asking for 
mbox files in a place as niche as the vim ML.  And if targeting the 
mass audience, I suspect they would as for an Outlook/OE .PST file 
instead of mbox :)


My Turing-test-o-meter is registering fairly high on the it's a human 
scale. :)


-tim





Best regards,
Tony.
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If the colleges were better, if they really had it, you would need to
get the police at the gates to keep order in the inrushing multitude.
See in college how we thwart the natural love of learning by leaving
the natural method of teaching what each wishes to learn, and insisting
that you shall learn what you have no taste or capacity for.  The
college, which should be a place of delightful labor, is made odious
and unhealthy, and the young men are tempted to frivolous amusements to
rally their jaded spirits.  I would have the studies elective.
Scholarship is to be created not by compulsion, but by awakening a pure
interest in knowledge.  The wise instructor accomplishes this by
opening to his pupils precisely the attractions the study has for
himself.  The marking is a system for schools, not for the college; for
boys, not for men; and it is an ungracious work to put on a professor.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

fREW wrote:
[...]

The interesting thing is that the guy who is in question of being a
spammer is the same guy who asked for safeguards against that type of
thing...



no, he isn't; it was requested by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and later by Ali 
Polatel), and warned against by steven smith.


If my reply to the latter gave the (false) impression that he was the same as 
the former, it may be because I was a little confused at the time.



Best regards,
Tony.
--
It was a virgin forest, a place where the Hand of Man had never set
foot.


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ehehe never mind about this, I had no idea this would stir everyone up.

I consider it fairly normal for list archives to be offered in mbox format
(ex. Lua and Template Toolkit and 5 million others) and like to keep them
around, since I can just drop them right into local folders in thunderbird
 for searching. Especially handy for offline, and for not having to rely
on someone's frontend to search the archives for difficult to find things,
that I know are buried someplace in the archive.

Looking at the commands I can issue to the listmanager, looks like I can
whip out something that will make me an archive so all good.

thanks for your offer though AJ.

A.




My pleasure.

Best regards,
Tony.
--
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
-- Olivier


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread fREW

On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ehehe never mind about this, I had no idea this would stir everyone up.

I consider it fairly normal for list archives to be offered in mbox format
(ex. Lua and Template Toolkit and 5 million others) and like to keep them
around, since I can just drop them right into local folders in thunderbird
 for searching. Especially handy for offline, and for not having to rely
on someone's frontend to search the archives for difficult to find things,
that I know are buried someplace in the archive.

Looking at the commands I can issue to the listmanager, looks like I can
whip out something that will make me an archive so all good.

thanks for your offer though AJ.

A.





I don't think you are a spammer/bot! :-)

--
-fREW


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

fREW wrote:

On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ehehe never mind about this, I had no idea this would stir everyone up.

I consider it fairly normal for list archives to be offered in mbox 
format

(ex. Lua and Template Toolkit and 5 million others) and like to keep them
around, since I can just drop them right into local folders in 
thunderbird

 for searching. Especially handy for offline, and for not having to rely
on someone's frontend to search the archives for difficult to find 
things,

that I know are buried someplace in the archive.

Looking at the commands I can issue to the listmanager, looks like I can
whip out something that will make me an archive so all good.

thanks for your offer though AJ.

A.





I don't think you are a spammer/bot! :-)



Certainly not a bot. A spammer -- I don't think so either.

Thinking back on it, I think it would be better if aff can get it by querying 
the listbot, because from time to time I've been moving private mail by 
Vimmers to that same archive folder.



Best regards,
Tony.
--
Festivity Level 1: Your guests are chatting amiably with each
other, admiring your Christmas-tree ornaments, singing carols around
the upright piano, sipping at their drinks and nibbling hors
d'oeuvres.
Festivity Level 2: Your guests are talking loudly -- sometimes
to each other, and sometimes to nobody at all, rearranging your
Christmas-tree ornaments, singing I Gotta Be Me around the upright
piano, gulping their drinks and wolfing down hors d'oeuvres.
Festivity Level 3: Your guests are arguing violently with
inanimate objects, singing I can't get no satisfaction, gulping down
other peoples' drinks, wolfing down Christmas tree ornaments and
placing hors d'oeuvres in the upright piano to see what happens when
the little hammers strike.
Festivity Level 4: Your guests, hors d'oeuvres smeared all over
their naked bodies are performing a ritual dance around the burning
Christmas tree.  The piano is missing.

You want to keep your party somewhere around level 3, unless
you rent your home and own Firearms, in which case you can go to level
4.  The best way to get to level 3 is egg-nog.


Re: mbox format archive?

2007-05-29 Thread Troy Piggins
* A.J.Mechelynck is quoted  my replies are inline below :
 Ali Polatel wrote:
 A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 i'd like to get as large an archive as possible of this list in mbox
 format. Looking around I don't see any archive in mbox format
 surprisingly, does anyone know if this exists?
 thanks!
  I've been archiving the vim, vim-dev and vim-multibyte lists locally, 
  ever since I switched over to Linux. The file is 19 meg by now. Shall I 
  send it to you as attachment by private email?
 
  Hi,
  I was reading the vim mailing list today and saw this post :) I would
 be very happy if you can send me the archives of vim and vim-dev when
 you have time..
  thanks!
 
 Hmm... This post of mine seems to be eliciting two kinds of reactions: Me 
 too, me too and Don't, you fool, he may be a spammer harvesting 
 addresses.
 
 I think I'll leave it on the backburner for a while, waiting for the 
 situation to clarify. Comments, anyone?

Regarding people's concerns about email addresses being visible - they do
realise that every post made to the vim mailing list is available on
mail-to-news gateways like gmane, don't they?  Poster's email address are not
munged and available on USENET even though posted on a mailing list.

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