Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-23 Thread Marvin Renich
* Georg Dahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060423 01:39]: Hi! Well, you are right that this is at least from a mathematical point of view correct. I have given this a second thought and you seem to be right, that, if a[M:N] for M or N len(a) returns an empty list, many problems can be solved more

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-22 Thread Georg Dahn
Hi! a[M:N] should _never_ produce errors because returning an empty (or truncated) list for a[M:N] unambiguously conveys to the programmer that M len(a) (or N len(a)). In my opinion one has done something wrong if one wants to get a sublist whith wrong bounds. That's why an error has

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-22 Thread Srinath Avadhanula
something wrong. The most common use-case for the slice operation I can think of is: for item in somelist[M:N] do something endfor This is a good example. M and N are not further described here. But M and N must come from somewhere. If they are out of bounds, then in many or even

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-22 Thread Srinath Avadhanula
Hi, I think that the main point of disagreement between Georg (and possibly others) and me is summed up by the expectation of what a[M:N] behaves like. I imagine the most common use of a[M:N] to be like get(dict, key) where the programmer is already well aware that the key might not exist

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-21 Thread Georg Dahn
Hi! I think trying to get items from an empty list should produce an error message. IMHO it would be a serious error if no error were produced in this case. Best wishes, Georg ___ 24 FIFA World Cup tickets to be

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-21 Thread sean
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:51:11 +0200 Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a[M:N] does truncate when N len(a). However, this still gives an error when len(a) = 0. Can this be changed as well to return just an empty list? I appreciate your changing the previous behavior. It made things

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-21 Thread Georg Dahn
Hi! Handling N len(a) except when a happens to be 0 seems a bit counterintuitive. No: Let's assume, that you have an empty list a. Then M in a[M:N] is always out of bounds, which should produce an error. Analogously, if a is not empty, but M len(a), an error should be produced, too. (BTW

Re: a[M:N]

2006-04-21 Thread sean
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:33:07 +0200 Georg Dahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Georg, No: Let's assume, that you have an empty list a. Then M in a[M:N] is always out of bounds, which should produce an error. Analogously, if a is not empty, but M len(a), an error should be produced, too. (BTW