Re: Vim updates

2006-08-13 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Tony -

 Bram Moolenaar wrote:
  Ali Akcaagac wrote:
  
  On my home Linux system I can easily compile and install every patch you
  release for Vim, same applies for the MorphOS versions that I from time
  to time create and release for our users but for Windows - which I need
  to use at work - I am stuck with the *.exe setup files as found on
  vim.org and thus can not test updates to report back problems or give
  feedback. Now the patchlevel has reached .051.
 
  Is there by any chance a way to release full binary setup snapshots of
  vim ? Say is there a way or automate process that might generate a setup
  say once a week and put it up on vim.org ?
  
  I don't make executables for every patched version.  It simply takes too
  much time to do this for every patch.  I'm currently checking in every
  patch in CVS, that already is a huge slowdown.
  
  Previously Tony made patched versions available.  He stopped doing that
  when his computer broke down.  Perhaps someone else can volunteer to do
  this now.
  
 
 Steve Hall has picked up the tools fallen from my hands ;-), and does it 
 better than I ever did, see my earlier post on this thread.

Right, I actually already have this linked on the download page, but
it's not very noticable.  I'll make this clearer.

- Bram

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Re: Vim updates

2006-08-13 Thread Ali Akcaagac
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 09:48 -0400, Steve Hall wrote:
 It uses my own configuration of the Nullsoft Installer (NSIS) instead
 of relying on Vim's NSIS-install.exe combo, but it otherwise contains
 gvim.exe, vim.exe, gvimext.dll, plus all the standard and runtime
 files current as of build date. Version output is given in the Notes
 link at each file.

Hmmm,

I just downloaded that file and I am not really convinced by it. It's
not the same as the releases Bram does.

The Menu entries in the Windows Start Menu are not identical, The
colorful green icons are missing, even the name convention used gVim 7.x
for example is not there.

Looking deeper into c:\programs\vim I see the directory populated with
plenty other directories while my previous Vim installation has just 2
or 3 iirc. Even the dir name is not Vim it's in lower case letters.

I get a dialog all the time starting Vim saying I have to register
vim.

I therefore decided to go back to plain 7.0 release version of gVim for
Windows.

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac




Re: Vim updates

2006-08-13 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 13-Aug-06 7:41pm -0600, Steve Hall wrote:

 A normal full install should have all or nearly all these (at least my
 install here on Fedora Core 5 does):

   vim70/autoload/
 colors/
 compiler/
 doc/
 ftplugin/
 icons/
 indent/
 keymap/
 lang/
 macros/
 plugin/
 print/
 spell/
 syntax/
 tools/
 tutor/

This is fairly close to what installs on a Win system.  We
don't have icon/ but do have nsis/ and src/.  Also the
print/ directory isn't standard with a Win installation - it
tagged along when I updated my runtime files with
runtime/dos on the FTP site.

I see bitmaps/ is not included there also.  Gvim, at
startup, checks for 20 separate .bmp files for each
directory in 'rtp'.  Not a startup speed enhancement.  Is
there a way to shut this bitmaps searching off?

-- 
Best regards,
Bill



Re: Vim updates

2006-08-13 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Bill McCarthy wrote:

On Sun 13-Aug-06 7:41pm -0600, Steve Hall wrote:


A normal full install should have all or nearly all these (at least my
install here on Fedora Core 5 does):

  vim70/autoload/
colors/
compiler/
doc/
ftplugin/
icons/
indent/
keymap/
lang/
macros/
plugin/
print/
spell/
syntax/
tools/
tutor/


This is fairly close to what installs on a Win system.  We
don't have icon/ but do have nsis/ and src/.  Also the
print/ directory isn't standard with a Win installation - it
tagged along when I updated my runtime files with
runtime/dos on the FTP site.

I see bitmaps/ is not included there also.  Gvim, at
startup, checks for 20 separate .bmp files for each
directory in 'rtp'.  Not a startup speed enhancement.  Is
there a way to shut this bitmaps searching off?



src/ shouldn't be part of your production installation. You need it to 
compile Vim, but that should be done elsewhere than where Vim will 
reside for day-to-day editing. For instance, a typical production 
installation of Vim will reside in


C:\Program Files\vim\vim70

and its subdirectories. To compile Vim, I keep the source safely apart 
(so if the compile fails, my production Vim doesn't get clobbered), for 
instance in


C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\compile\vim\vim70

and its subdirectories. The letter has, among others, a runtime 
subdirectory for the runtime files, and a src subdirectory for the 
source, both of which have further subdirectories. The former should 
have neither src/ nor runtime/ in it.


On my Linux system, $VIM/vim70/print contains only *.ps files. These 
should, I suppose, not be required on a normal Windows installation 
since on Windows the :hardcopy command doesn't use PostScript.


Searching for *.bmp files is normal; it's explained as item 3 under 
:help toolbar-icons. If your 'rtp' directories don't have bitmap/ 
subdirectories, or if the latter are empty, the search should proceed 
rather quickly, and then you should get the built-in icons. Creating an 
empty bitmaps/ subdirectory in $VIMRUNTIME may or may not make the GUI 
startup marginally faster or slower. But this also brings us to another 
point: if you have bitmaps/ subdirectories with nonstandard icons in 
some of the 'rtp' directories, these nonstandard icons will replace the 
default ones on yout toolbar. There are two ways to altogether avoid 
searching for these icons:


a) :set toolbar=text

displays text-only toolbar buttons, with no icons;

b) :set guioptions-=T

suppresses the toolbar completely.

These can be placed in your gvimrc if you have one, or (bracketed by 'if 
has(gui_running)') in your vimrc.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Vim updates

2006-08-12 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

Hello Bram,

On my home Linux system I can easily compile and install every patch you
release for Vim, same applies for the MorphOS versions that I from time
to time create and release for our users but for Windows - which I need
to use at work - I am stuck with the *.exe setup files as found on
vim.org and thus can not test updates to report back problems or give
feedback. Now the patchlevel has reached .051.

Is there by any chance a way to release full binary setup snapshots of
vim ? Say is there a way or automate process that might generate a setup
say once a week and put it up on vim.org ?

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac






For Windows, Steve Hall has an automated process which generates a full 
upgraded installer; he uploads the latter (currently at 7.0.051, I just 
checked) at 
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43866package_id=39721



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Vim updates

2006-08-12 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

 On my home Linux system I can easily compile and install every patch you
 release for Vim, same applies for the MorphOS versions that I from time
 to time create and release for our users but for Windows - which I need
 to use at work - I am stuck with the *.exe setup files as found on
 vim.org and thus can not test updates to report back problems or give
 feedback. Now the patchlevel has reached .051.
 
 Is there by any chance a way to release full binary setup snapshots of
 vim ? Say is there a way or automate process that might generate a setup
 say once a week and put it up on vim.org ?

I don't make executables for every patched version.  It simply takes too
much time to do this for every patch.  I'm currently checking in every
patch in CVS, that already is a huge slowdown.

Previously Tony made patched versions available.  He stopped doing that
when his computer broke down.  Perhaps someone else can volunteer to do
this now.

-- 
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124. You begin conversations with, Who is your internet service provider?

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 \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///


Re: Vim updates

2006-08-12 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Bram Moolenaar wrote:

Ali Akcaagac wrote:


On my home Linux system I can easily compile and install every patch you
release for Vim, same applies for the MorphOS versions that I from time
to time create and release for our users but for Windows - which I need
to use at work - I am stuck with the *.exe setup files as found on
vim.org and thus can not test updates to report back problems or give
feedback. Now the patchlevel has reached .051.

Is there by any chance a way to release full binary setup snapshots of
vim ? Say is there a way or automate process that might generate a setup
say once a week and put it up on vim.org ?


I don't make executables for every patched version.  It simply takes too
much time to do this for every patch.  I'm currently checking in every
patch in CVS, that already is a huge slowdown.

Previously Tony made patched versions available.  He stopped doing that
when his computer broke down.  Perhaps someone else can volunteer to do
this now.



Steve Hall has picked up the tools fallen from my hands ;-), and does it 
better than I ever did, see my earlier post on this thread.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Vim updates

2006-08-12 Thread Ali Akcaagac
On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 00:04 +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
 Previously Tony made patched versions available.  He stopped doing that
 when his computer broke down.  Perhaps someone else can volunteer to do
 this now.

Hello Bram,

I got a few replies to this request already and what Steve has to offer
looks quite interesting to me. I only need to figure out (pretty soon)
in how differently his setup stuff works from the one you offered. He
mentioned NSIS-Install vs. Nullsoft Installer. What matters for me at
the end is that I get the same files, same installation to use VIM at
the end.

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac




Vim updates

2006-08-11 Thread Ali Akcaagac
Hello Bram,

On my home Linux system I can easily compile and install every patch you
release for Vim, same applies for the MorphOS versions that I from time
to time create and release for our users but for Windows - which I need
to use at work - I am stuck with the *.exe setup files as found on
vim.org and thus can not test updates to report back problems or give
feedback. Now the patchlevel has reached .051.

Is there by any chance a way to release full binary setup snapshots of
vim ? Say is there a way or automate process that might generate a setup
say once a week and put it up on vim.org ?

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac