Phil Dobbin wrote:
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is there is something important that should still be included?
> > Or something in the
On 08/03/18 17:05, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be included?
> Or
> These icons for example.
Hmm, these are not IMproved.
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These icons for example.
2018-04-18 22:16 GMT+02:00 Bram Moolenaar :
>
> Christian wrote:
>
> > On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And
Christian wrote:
> On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is there is something important that
On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be included?
> Or
On 3/18/2018 7:48 AM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
Justin M. Keyes wrote:
I'm glad to give credits to developers who send me a patch that I can
include and make Vim users happy. No matter where that code came from.
Why give credit to NeoVim as a project, instead of its individual
contributors? That
2018-03-18 15:48 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
>
> Justin M. Keyes wrote:
>
> I'm glad to give credits to developers who send me a patch that I can
> include and make Vim users happy. No matter where that code came from.
> Why give credit to NeoVim as a project, instead of its
Justin M. Keyes wrote:
I'm glad to give credits to developers who send me a patch that I can
include and make Vim users happy. No matter where that code came from.
Why give credit to NeoVim as a project, instead of its individual
contributors? That would mean NeoVim helps Vim moving forward.
Le dimanche 18 mars 2018 12:24:38 UTC+1, Justin M. Keyes a écrit :
> 2018-03-11 16:04 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
> >
> > Justin M. Keyes wrote:
> >
> >> 2018-03-08 18:05 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
> >> >
> >> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The
Le jeudi 8 mars 2018 18:05:36 UTC+1, Bram Moolenaar a écrit :
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be
2018-03-11 16:04 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
>
> Justin M. Keyes wrote:
>
>> 2018-03-08 18:05 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
>> >
>> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
>> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots
Christian wrote:
> On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is there is something important that
Christian wrote:
> On Fr, 16 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that is about updating the documentation. Does that mean they also
> > implemented new-ui ?
>
> Yes:
> https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=60eb5395fa7a7b8e3cd1841e38b6d1a0c
Right, that
On Fr, 16 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> Hmm, that is about updating the documentation. Does that mean they also
> implemented new-ui ?
Yes:
https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=60eb5395fa7a7b8e3cd1841e38b6d1a0c
Best,
Christian
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On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be included?
> Or
Christian wrote:
> > > On Do, 15 Mär 2018, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > > On Do, 15 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> > > > > GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.11.1-0ubuntu1~16.5) 7.11.1
> > > > This needs a gdb 7.12
> > >
> > > How about the following patch:
> >
> > I'm actually not sure if 7.12 is really the
On Do, 15 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> Christian wrote:
>
>
> > On Do, 15 Mär 2018, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > On Do, 15 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> > > > GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.11.1-0ubuntu1~16.5) 7.11.1
> > > This needs a gdb 7.12
> >
> > How about the following patch:
>
> I'm
Christian wrote:
> On Do, 15 Mär 2018, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > On Do, 15 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> > > GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.11.1-0ubuntu1~16.5) 7.11.1
> > This needs a gdb 7.12
>
> How about the following patch:
I'm actually not sure if 7.12 is really the required version. It
appears
On Do, 15 Mär 2018, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> On Do, 15 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> > GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.11.1-0ubuntu1~16.5) 7.11.1
> This needs a gdb 7.12
How about the following patch:
diff --git a/runtime/pack/dist/opt/termdebug/plugin/termdebug.vim
On Do, 15 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> Error detected while processing function 17_StartDebug:
> line 73:
> Your gdb does not support the Machine Interface feature
>
> But cannot seem to find info on the web about what this means/how to make
> progress. Any quick suggestion ?
> Do I need to
Hi,
Thx. Excited to try it out, I get this -
Error detected while processing function 17_StartDebug:
line 73:
Your gdb does not support the Machine Interface feature
But cannot seem to find info on the web about what this means/how to make
progress. Any quick suggestion ?
Do I need to
On Di, 13 Mär 2018, M Kelly wrote:
> Where can I learn more about the debugger plugin ?
This is described briefly at :h terminal-debug
Best,
Christian
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Hi,
Where can I learn more about the debugger plugin ?
thx,
mark
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:17 AM, James McCoy wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21:55PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> Not sure, why the vartabs
On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> An alternative would be to support a custom escape sequence enclosing an
> arbitrary Vim command. This is tricky, since it can be abused to have
> Vim execute any command when catting a file to the terminal.
> We could restrict it to opening a file, a
On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> I don't think code size matters much for a feature like this.
> But if you want to compare sizes, you need to use a build where size is
> relevant. A huge build with GUI is where users don't care about size.
> The GUI adds so much that the Vim code
Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:17 AM, James McCoy wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21:55PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> [...]
> >> Not sure, why the vartabs enabled Vim is actually smaller then the
> >> unpatched Vim. That is certainly
Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
> 2018-03-13 10:13 GMT+03:00 Christian Brabandt :
> >
> > On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
> >
> >> Conveniently viewing tab-separated file is one thing, assembling is
> >> entirely another. Who could you share such file except
Skywind wrote:
> One thing important for terminal: open file directly in the terminal
>
> Presume the shell in the vim's terminal and vim itself are always under the
> different working directory. It is quite in-productive to switch to
> terminal-normal mode and use vim's command to find and
On 13/03/18 06:47, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
2018-03-13 9:09 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn :
How many people will use it is irrelevant. The point I'm trying to make here
is that all the opposition has been based around objections that have never
been used to object
On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
> My point is that while you can sure view those files in a nice manner
> *yourself*, but it would not do any good for those who you share files
> with unless they have vartabs themselves. So if files need to be
> assembled it is better to
2018-03-13 10:13 GMT+03:00 Christian Brabandt :
>
> On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
>
>> Conveniently viewing tab-separated file is one thing, assembling is
>> entirely another. Who could you share such file except person using
>> (Neo)Vim with your
On Di, 13 Mär 2018, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
> Conveniently viewing tab-separated file is one thing, assembling is
> entirely another. Who could you share such file except person using
> (Neo)Vim with your patch? Spaces are safer and it is not impossible to
> write a plugin which
On Mo, 12 Mär 2018, James McCoy wrote:
> 12264088 (+vartabs) is larger than 12234272 (-vartabs). The more
> interesting figures (if size is really a factor) would be after
> stripping both binaries, since that's what most people are likely to
> encounter.
That would actually make sense and
2018-03-13 9:09 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn :
> On 12/03/18 22:06, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
>>
>> 2018-03-12 0:36 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn :
>>>
>>> But editing tabular information is something that a great many people do.
>>> It's not just a
On 12/03/18 22:06, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
2018-03-12 0:36 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn :
But editing tabular information is something that a great many people do.
It's not just a matter of working with tab-separated data files. How often
do you want to assemble
2018-03-13 2:11 GMT+03:00 tooth pik :
> nikolay:
>
> don't worry about other people being able to see the properly formatted
> columns
>
> users of this feature will more than likely have 'expandtab' set
I fail to see how this your suggestion is different from cleverly
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018, Ben Fritz wrote:
I also find myself wanting the vartabs feature any time I am working
with columned format or taking notes in tabular form. I haven't
bothered myself to go find and apply the patch because I need it so
infrequently and for some use cases can just go open
I also find myself wanting the vartabs feature any time I am working with
columned format or taking notes in tabular form. I haven't bothered myself to
go find and apply the patch because I need it so infrequently and for some use
cases can just go open up a spreadsheet in a different program.
>From terminal.c:
* - add an optional limit for the scrollback size. When reaching it remove
* 10% at the start.
Could it be possible before 8.1 ?? At least I can monitor log files while
editing, just like running 'tail -f' for hours in all other terminals.
在 2018年3月13日星期二
One thing important for terminal: open file directly in the terminal
Presume the shell in the vim's terminal and vim itself are always under the
different working directory. It is quite in-productive to switch to
terminal-normal mode and use vim's command to find and open a file.
Emacs can
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:17 AM, James McCoy wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21:55PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
[...]
>> Not sure, why the vartabs enabled Vim is actually smaller then the
>> unpatched Vim. That is certainly unexpected, I might have messed
>>
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21:55PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> With vartabs:
> VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 (2016 Sep 12, compiled Mar 12 2018 23:10:47)
> Included patches: 1-1600
> Extra patches: variable tabstops
> Compiled by Christian Brabandt
> Huge version without GUI.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Christian Brabandt wrote:
>
> On So, 11 Mär 2018, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
>> In order to decide whether or not it is actually "a small thing" in
>> terms of executable bloat I would like to see figures: let's say the
>> size of two Huge
nikolay:
don't worry about other people being able to see the properly formatted
columns
users of this feature will more than likely have 'expandtab' set
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov <
zyx@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2018-03-12 0:36 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn
On So, 11 Mär 2018, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> In order to decide whether or not it is actually "a small thing" in
> terms of executable bloat I would like to see figures: let's say the
> size of two Huge executables for the same OS, word size (32/64) and
> GUI, differing only in inclusion or not
2018-03-12 0:36 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn :
> On 11/03/18 15:04, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>>
>> First of all, I'm sorry to disappoint you. This patch has been floating
>> around for a long time and has never made it in. It's not urgent, and
>> not a small thing to include, with
I think Matthew's argumentation is well thought out, clear and valid.
I don't use variable tabs myself but I can empathize with those who
do. I remember that floating-point functions were at first a crippled
set, and it took some time (a year? two? more?) to convince Bram that
the full set (which
On 11/03/18 15:04, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
First of all, I'm sorry to disappoint you. This patch has been floating
around for a long time and has never made it in. It's not urgent, and
not a small thing to include, with the result I have been postponing it
for a long time.
But it is a small
On March 12, 2018 at 2:04:34 AM UTC+11, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> First of all, I'm sorry to disappoint you. This patch has
> been floating around for a long time and has never made it in.
> It's not urgent, and not a small thing to include, with the
> result I have been postponing it for a long
Matthew Winn wrote:
> On 09/03/18 10:36, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> >
> >> would this be a bad time to ask about variable tab stops?
> >
> > Yes, this is the kind of patch that needs time to wrinkle out all the
> > problems.
> > Like other things that change how text is displayed (linebreak,
Justin M. Keyes wrote:
> 2018-03-08 18:05 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
> >
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is there is
2018-03-08 18:05 GMT+01:00 Bram Moolenaar :
>
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be
On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 08:36:03AM -0500, David Fishburn wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Christian Brabandt <[1]cbli...@256bit.org>
> wrote:
>
> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would make
> sense for a new release.
>
> I have been using Dispatch.vim
On 09/03/18 10:36, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
would this be a bad time to ask about variable tab stops?
Yes, this is the kind of patch that needs time to wrinkle out all the problems.
Like other things that change how text is displayed (linebreak, conceal).
Also, I anticipate Vim becoming slower.
Hi Dave,
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:02 AM, David Fishburn wrote:
>> > >> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would
>> > >> make
>> > >> sense for a new release.
>> > >>
>> > > I have been using Dispatch.vim (Tim Pope) for this:
>> > >
>
> > >> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would make
> > >> sense for a new release.
> > >>
> > > I have been using Dispatch.vim (Tim Pope) for this:
> > > https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=4504
> > >
> > > Is the make plugin different from this?
> > >
> >
Yegappan wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:36 AM, David Fishburn
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Christian Brabandt
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would make
> >> sense for a
Hi Dave,
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:36 AM, David Fishburn wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Christian Brabandt
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would make
>> sense for a new release.
>>
> I have been
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Christian Brabandt
wrote:
>
> Oh and I think perhaps including the background make plugin would make
> sense for a new release.
>
>
> I have been using Dispatch.vim (Tim Pope) for this:
https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=4504
Is
> would this be a bad time to ask about variable tab stops?
Yes, this is the kind of patch that needs time to wrinkle out all the problems.
Like other things that change how text is displayed (linebreak, conceal).
Also, I anticipate Vim becoming slower. And I think the audience is actually
Jason Felice wrote:
> wrt the interface, I've written a small plugin that starts a terminal
> window with a program that runs my builds and prints their statuses. It
> doesn't have a lot of output. I'd like to be able to have normal-mode-ish
> keys for the window mapped (e.g. dd deletes a
Christian Brabandt wrote:
> On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is there is something
On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Christian Brabandt wrote:
>
> On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> > terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> > additions and plenty of bug fixes.
> >
> > Is
wrt the interface, I've written a small plugin that starts a terminal
window with a program that runs my builds and prints their statuses. It
doesn't have a lot of output. I'd like to be able to have normal-mode-ish
keys for the window mapped (e.g. dd deletes a build result and makes it
rerun,
On Do, 08 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and plenty of bug fixes.
>
> Is there is something important that should still be included?
> Or
would this be a bad time to ask about variable tab stops?
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of creating the 8.1 release. The main new feature is the
> terminal window, with the debugger plugin. And lots of smaller
> additions and
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