Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-09 Thread björn
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Douglas Drumond
drumond.doug...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM, björn bjorn.winck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it should disable the
 Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off).


 Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that
 makes MacVim unusable (it's just on resizing). But with Core Renderer
 enabled it's unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so
 they pile up, but with CR disabled it does proper spacing). Since I use it
 for Japanese just once in a while, I left it with CR enabled for day to day
 programming.


This is news to me.  How can I reproduce this?

Björn

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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-08 Thread björn
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Douglas Drumond wrote:


 On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:
 
  Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this
 happened (attached).
 

 I was not able to reproduce fullscreen issue here, but I could see the
 glitch from screenshot, although minor (parts of the window got blurry
 during resizing, but got back to normal when resizing stopped). Disabling
 core renderer in Preferences → Advanced and reopening the window made the
 problem go away. I have no clue on how to solve it (Björn, can you give me
 some pointers? [1]), I'll see what I can do.


I have tried very hard to avoid these types of display bugs, but
unfortunately it is unavoidable without some form of double buffering which
I have not (yet) implemented for the Core Text renderer due to speed (and
memory) concerns.  My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it
should disable the Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default
renderer may put you off).

As for not being able to enter full screen: I do not have access to a Lion
machine to try on.  But to rule out problems with Douglas' build, please
try running the binary I built for 10.6.  On second thought - it does not
support Lion-native full screen, so that may be somewhat pointless.  Maybe
try disabling native full-screen in the prefs and see if that works.

Björn

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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-08 Thread Douglas Drumond
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM, björn bjorn.winck...@gmail.com wrote:

 My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it should disable the
Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off).


Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that
makes MacVim unusable (it's just on resizing). But with Core Renderer
enabled it's unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so
they pile up, but with CR disabled it does proper spacing). Since I use it
for Japanese just once in a while, I left it with CR enabled for day to day
programming.

 As for not being able to enter full screen: I do not have access to a
Lion machine to try on.  But to rule out problems with Douglas' build,
please try running the binary I built for 10.6.  On second thought - it
does not support Lion-native full screen, so that may be somewhat
pointless.  Maybe try disabling native full-screen in the prefs and see if
that works.


I didn't have the fullscreen issue, so I couldn't test that.


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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-07 Thread björn
 I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:

 https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

 This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will
 build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)


Douglas Drumond has kindly provided binaries of snapshot 67 for 10.7 and
10.8, which are now available at

https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

Enjoy!
Björn

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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-07 Thread peiman khosravi
I don't seem to be able to go into the full screen mode.

(Mac OS X 10.7.5.)






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On 6 July 2013 18:34, björn bjorn.winck...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:


 Hello Vim users,


 Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


 This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

 Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
 time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
 a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


 The biggest additions since 7.3:
 - A new, faster regular expression engine.
 - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

 Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
 changes since Vim 7.3 with:
 :help version-7.4


 Gratitude
 -

 If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
 Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


 Where to get it
 ---

 The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
 Summary:
 hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
 cd vim
 hg update
 More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
 The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

 For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
 links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
 http://www.vim.org/download.php

 A list of mirror sites can be found here:
 http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


 The files available for download:

 UNIX:
 sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

 VARIOUS:
 help files converted to HTML:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

 MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
 Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 MS-WINDOWS separate files:
 Runtime files:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
 GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
 GUI binary with OLE support:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
 Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
 Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

 For debugging:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


 Omitted in this version are:
 - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
 - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
 - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


 Mailing lists
 -

 For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
 lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
 only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

 If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
 latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
 http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

 Subject specific lists:
 Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
 Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

 Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
 already have given the answer.


 Reporting bugs
 --

 Send them to vim-...@vim.org.  Please describe the problem precisely.
 All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
 spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
 find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
 bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: vim -u NONE.  Try
 different machines if possible.  See :help bugs in Vim.  Send a patch
 if you can!


 Happy Vimming!


 Hi Vim on Mac users,

 I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:

 https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

 This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will
 build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

 Björn

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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-07 Thread Douglas Drumond
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this
happened (attached).


I was not able to reproduce fullscreen issue here, but I could see the
glitch from screenshot, although minor (parts of the window got blurry
during resizing, but got back to normal when resizing stopped). Disabling
core renderer in Preferences → Advanced and reopening the window made the
problem go away. I have no clue on how to solve it (Björn, can you give me
some pointers? [1]), I'll see what I can do.


Douglas


[1] http://xkcd.com/138/

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Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-06 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Hello Vim users,


Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


The biggest additions since 7.3:
- A new, faster regular expression engine.
- More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
changes since Vim 7.3 with:
:help version-7.4


Gratitude
-

If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


Where to get it
---

The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
Summary:
hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
cd vim
hg update
More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
http://www.vim.org/download.php

A list of mirror sites can be found here:
http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


The files available for download:

UNIX:
sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

VARIOUS:
help files converted to HTML:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

MS-WINDOWS separate files:
Runtime files:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
GUI binary with OLE support:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

For debugging:
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


Omitted in this version are:
- The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
- The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
- The 16 bit MS-Windows version


Mailing lists
-

For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

Subject specific lists:
Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
already have given the answer.


Reporting bugs
--

Send them to vim-...@vim.org.  Please describe the problem precisely.
All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: vim -u NONE.  Try
different machines if possible.  See :help bugs in Vim.  Send a patch
if you can!


Happy Vimming!


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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-06 Thread björn
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:


 Hello Vim users,


 Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


 This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

 Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
 time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
 a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


 The biggest additions since 7.3:
 - A new, faster regular expression engine.
 - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

 Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
 changes since Vim 7.3 with:
 :help version-7.4


 Gratitude
 -

 If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
 Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


 Where to get it
 ---

 The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
 Summary:
 hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
 cd vim
 hg update
 More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
 The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

 For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
 links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
 http://www.vim.org/download.php

 A list of mirror sites can be found here:
 http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


 The files available for download:

 UNIX:
 sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

 VARIOUS:
 help files converted to HTML:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

 MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
 Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 MS-WINDOWS separate files:
 Runtime files:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
 GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
 GUI binary with OLE support:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
 Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
 Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

 For debugging:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


 Omitted in this version are:
 - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
 - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
 - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


 Mailing lists
 -

 For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
 lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
 only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

 If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
 latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
 http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

 Subject specific lists:
 Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
 Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

 Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
 already have given the answer.


 Reporting bugs
 --

 Send them to vim-...@vim.org.  Please describe the problem precisely.
 All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
 spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
 find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
 bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: vim -u NONE.  Try
 different machines if possible.  See :help bugs in Vim.  Send a patch
 if you can!


 Happy Vimming!


Hi Vim on Mac users,

I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:

https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will
build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

Björn

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Re: Vim 7.4a ready for beta testing

2013-07-06 Thread peiman khosravi
I just downloaded this. seems to be working just fine so far.

Thanks
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On 6 July 2013 18:34, björn bjorn.winck...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:


 Hello Vim users,


 Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


 This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

 Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
 time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
 a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


 The biggest additions since 7.3:
 - A new, faster regular expression engine.
 - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

 Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
 changes since Vim 7.3 with:
 :help version-7.4


 Gratitude
 -

 If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
 Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


 Where to get it
 ---

 The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
 Summary:
 hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
 cd vim
 hg update
 More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
 The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

 For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
 links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
 http://www.vim.org/download.php

 A list of mirror sites can be found here:
 http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


 The files available for download:

 UNIX:
 sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

 VARIOUS:
 help files converted to HTML:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

 MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
 Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

 MS-WINDOWS separate files:
 Runtime files:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
 GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
 GUI binary with OLE support:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
 Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
 Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

 For debugging:
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


 Omitted in this version are:
 - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
 - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
 - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


 Mailing lists
 -

 For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
 lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
 only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

 If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
 latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
 http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

 Subject specific lists:
 Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
 Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

 Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
 already have given the answer.


 Reporting bugs
 --

 Send them to vim-...@vim.org.  Please describe the problem precisely.
 All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
 spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
 find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
 bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: vim -u NONE.  Try
 different machines if possible.  See :help bugs in Vim.  Send a patch
 if you can!


 Happy Vimming!


 Hi Vim on Mac users,

 I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:

 https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

 This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will
 build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

 Björn

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