That's understandable, Richard, I understand how it fit into your message to
joshua, as something alternative, but that's right it has nothing to do with
this list. If anyone here does want to know more, write me off list for a web
address you would be able to get into since some people were
i work in Oregon and have a Lucia phone at work; so clearly they are available
in the United States, but maybe not widely yet.
But since it is not an iPhone; I will not continue contributing to the thread.
I had only mentioned it because Joshua talked about going back to a "flip phone.
Richard