Re: Bose frames

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
sighted wife to swap them out!
With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
Harry

> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
> Danney
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,
> 
> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
> 
> Tenor are more squarish
> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
> sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the 
> eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
> 
> The closest
> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
> glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
> are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
> of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. 
> Thank you stay safe
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
>> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
>> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
>> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmest regards
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Beverly Wieland
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
>> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
>> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>> 
>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
>> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer 
>> models:
>> Integrated microphone
>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>> 
>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
>> the phone?
>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
>> or for me as a blind user?
>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>> subject.
>> Beverly Wieland
>> bwiel...@udel.edu
>> 
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Re: Question about Dice world sounds and hearing aids

[regina alvarado]

Once he sets the audio routing to what he wants, I put mine too always hearing 
aids or whatever it is, I then turn my phone off and  back on and that clears 
up the problem of not  hearing the sounds in the hearing aids. I hope this 
helps.

Reggie Alvarado 

On May 27, 2021, at 7:25 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:


Hello,
My husband has hearing aids and plays dice world on his iPhone.  Nothing he 
does makes the sounds for dice world run through his hearing aids, while all 
other sounds do.
Any suggestions?
He’s tried the audio routing in the rotter and that didn’t work either.
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Youtube switching between portrait and landscape orientation iPhone12 pro max

[Shai]

Hello,
I have a friend using an iPhone12 pro max with VoiceOver latest
version of iOS. They have the rotation lock set in control center and
they report that when watching a Youtube video and rotating the phone,
VoiceOver will switch between portrait and landscape modes.
I have tested this on both an iPhone10r and 8+ but I am not
experiencing this issue.
Is anyone else on here experiencing this and how did you resolve?
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes colour options for lens,

But not for frames that I am aware of.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 12:05 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
Danney
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,

The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,

Tenor are more squarish
Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the eyes, 
These are more a womens glasses,

The closest
 I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank 
you stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beverly Wieland
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
> for asking questions on Bose Frames.
> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
> 
> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
> Integrated microphone
> Multi-directional motion sensor
> 
> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
> the phone?
> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
> or for me as a blind user?
> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
> subject.
> Beverly Wieland
> bwiel...@udel.edu
> 
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RE: Bose frames

[danneyyates]

With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
Danney
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,

The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,

Tenor are more squarish
Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the eyes, 
These are more a womens glasses,

The closest
 I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank 
you stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beverly Wieland
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
> for asking questions on Bose Frames.
> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
> 
> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
> Integrated microphone
> Multi-directional motion sensor
> 
> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
> the phone?
> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
> or for me as a blind user?
> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
> subject.
> Beverly Wieland
> bwiel...@udel.edu
> 
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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,

The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,

Tenor are more squarish 
Rondo are round like old granny glasses,
Serprano are more tear drop shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of 
shape at the outer corner of the eyes,
These are more a womens glasses,

The closest 
 I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank 
you stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beverly Wieland
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
> for asking questions on Bose Frames.
> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
> 
> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
> Integrated microphone
> Multi-directional motion sensor
> 
> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
> the phone?
> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
> or for me as a blind user?
> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
> subject.
> Beverly Wieland
> bwiel...@udel.edu
> 
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Re: Search field gone twitterrific

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all, For those of you who were wondering like me where the search feature 
has gone in twitterriffic homefeed, I found it finally:
If you double-tap on the home heading at top of home feed screen you get a 
bunch of interesting actions, including the "find" feature that you can use to 
only show tweets that match your search in your feed.
Very glad to have figured this out.

Hth,


Ioana 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Thanks for your answer. I did see that one but it gives me tweets from all 
> around twitter, not just from my feed. 
> In the release notes they say something about multiple ways to start a search 
> but no luck. 
> 
> I'll write them. 
> 
> Thanks for any other ideas, 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> It looks like search has been moved to the sidebar. If you open up the 
>> sidebar button you will find a search button in there. Why the search field 
>> was removed I have no idea.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
 On May 26, 2021, at 1:25 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> Since a few updates ago I cannot find the search field in my twitterrific 
>>> feed. I used to be able to search for a key word and see only tweets in my 
>>> list that matched it. 
>>> Now I just land in the list and cannot find the edit search field anywhere. 
>>> Any ideas before I contact the developer? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Ioana
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: EnVision Smart Glasses Vs. OrCam

[zhi.huang]

Hi all:

 

In the US, the 2 premiere dealers for the Envision glasses are Access Ingenuity 
and Florida Reading.  In short, Access Ingenuity handles west of the 
Mississippi, while Florida Reading handles the Eastern parts.

Both companies provided presentations on the Envision Glasses the last few 
months.  

 

Here’s a link to the audio presentation from Access Ingenuity:

 

  Meet the New Envision Glasses.m4a

 

Here’s the same presentation with video:

 

  Meet the New Envision Glasses.mp4

 

Here’s a link to a Florida Reading demo.

Live Envision Glasses Demonstration - YouTube 
 

 

I will sum up what I know about the Envision Glasses vs the OrCam.   I should 
mention that I do work for Access Ingenuity, but will be as down the middle as 
possible.

 

Options:  Envision Glasses only have one set of Google glasses; however there 
are 2 frames.  One with a frame but does not let you include lends and one 
allowing you to include lends for sunglasses, prescription, and nonprescription.

OrCam has several devices.  They have ones for just reading text, another for 
text and bar codes, Etc.

 

Price:  Envision Glasses are $3500, if you get the Smith Optics frame, to allow 
you to add lends, it’s an additional $500

OrCam’s most expensive product, the direct competitor to the Envision Glasses 
is $4500.

 

Requirements:  Envision Glasses require you to use the Envision AI app on a 
smart device.

OrCam is stand alone

 

Scanning text:  both do it and do it pretty well.

Envision Glasses has an online and offline mode.  Offline is faster, but online 
increases accuracy.  It also lets you send scans to the Envision AI app 
allowing you to then share the file via txt or pdf  to your other devices or 
others.  As for file size, this is text so it does not take up a lot of room 
and you can pretty much store as much as your smart device allows.

OrCam has more limited storage since it’s on the actual device.

 

Scanning barcodes:  Envision Glasses currently do not do this with the Glasses, 
but the Envision app does have this feature through your smart device.

OrCam does have this feature

 

Calling someone through your glasses to provide them video in the point of view 
of the glasses:  the Envision Glasses can do this, but you do need the person 
to set this up with the Envision Ally app first.  This is only through your 
glasses and not with the Envision AI app.

For those who say, I can call with my smart phone.  Yes, you can, but this puts 
things in the point of view of the actual glasses.  Its not a big deal for 
everyone, but convenient and helpful for someone who may not have the option of 
holding their phone since you actually ware the glasses.  Also helpful for 
someone who is not good at aiming their phone camera.  In the case of the 
glasses, if the person says its in front of you, it is assuming you are wearing 
the glasses, then it would be in front of you.

OrCam does not have this feature.

 

Battery life:  Envision Glasses is about 5-6 hours with active use.

Most OrCam models have 1.5-2 hours with active use, while OrCam Read has 4 
hours of active use.

You can add a charger from Amazon to extend the battery life here:

OrCam MyCharger - Wearable Power Bank Especially Made to Charge Your MyEye 
Device: Electronics 

 

 

Those are the basics.  Please feel free to check out the links and let me know 
if you have any additional questions.

 

 

Zhi Huang | Assistive Technology Specialist

   

4751 Hoen Avenue

Santa Rosa, CA 95405

E:   z...@accessingenuity.com

C: 916.512.3868 | T: 877.579.4380 

 

Access Ingenuity is a California Certified Small Business #

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: EnVision Smart Glasses Vs. OrCam

 

I'm interested in learning about these glasses too. I do know that Access 
Ingenuity sells them but I guess you can go to letsenvision.com to find other 
dealers there should be a link labeled distributors.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 2, 2021, at 6:12 AM, Dean Martineau  wrote:



Can anybody provide me with evaluations or comparisons of the Envision Smart 
Glasses and the OrCam?  I have a trainee who is testing the OrCam, and it seems 
to me that EnVision might do what she needs, perhaps for a lot less money.  
Also, any information about EnVision dealers in the US would be helpful.

 

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org 

Re: Bose frames

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank 
you stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beverly Wieland
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
> for asking questions on Bose Frames.
> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
> 
> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
> Integrated microphone
> Multi-directional motion sensor
> 
> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
> the phone?
> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
> or for me as a blind user?
> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
> subject.
> Beverly Wieland
> bwiel...@udel.edu
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RE: Bose frames

[rick.alfaro]

Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have very 
good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone calls. I 
wear my Tempos literally all day.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beverly 
Wieland
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
for asking questions on Bose Frames.
I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
ear technology sounds like it will do that.

Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not important 
except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
Integrated microphone
Multi-directional motion sensor

Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to the 
phone?
What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general or 
for me as a blind user?
I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.

Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
subject.
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bwiel...@udel.edu

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Re: Apple accessibility and third-party apps

[Andy Baracco]

Sounds like she was a low level support person reading from a script.  What 
would your modem settings have to do with the accessibility of an app.  i 
assume that you are referring to the iPhone app, and not the web site.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: "via VIPhone" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 10:58 AM
Subject: Apple accessibility and third-party apps


I wonder if anyone has any experience calling Accessibility at Apple 
regarding voiceover with a third-party app. I wouldn’t suppose they would be 
much help, but I’m just wondering. I mentioned before that I was having 
problems with the MLB app, not being able to go back in the calendar to a 
previous month. I just talked to MLB‘s Accessibility person, and the 
conversation was ridiculous. She wanted me to uninstall the app, reset my 
modem, do all kinds of garbage that’s totally not related to the fact that 
the app is not fully accessible. So either I’m missing something, and maybe 
that’s where the Apple accessibility people can point out some thing that I’m 
not doing right, or there’s just no way to do it. But her advice was absurd. 
I mean unlabeled buttons are not a problem that’s going to be solved with 
all the garbage that she had me doing. So I didn’t do it.



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Re: Lyft, adding a stop during a ride

[Jenny Wood]

I do the same thing. I often have to setup round trips via Lyft or Uber to drop 
my kids off somewhere, though I find this easier to do in Lyft, and I just set 
the final destination the same as my pickup location and add stops from there. 

Jenny 




> On Jun 1, 2021, at 4:33 PM, ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I set my final destination to be the same as my pickup location and then add 
> the place I want to go as my stop.  So far, it works.
> Hth!
> Tammy
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> 
> Greetings. When in a ride in Lyft, I am not sure how to add a stop. My 
> situation is I wanted to go round trip in a  ride earlier today. When I hit 
> the add stop button, it appeared my stop would be added before my drop off. I 
> ended up just requesting another Lyft. If I find myself in this situation 
> again, how might add my home as a stop, so I would have a round trip to and 
> from my destination, if that makes sense.
> 
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A New Challenge With The Captchas

[Arnold Schmidt]

In actuality, this will make things easier for us, but it takes a little work. 
In a few cases, before I knew what I am about to write, when I noticed no audio 
challenge opportunity was present, I clicked the verify button and it went 
through,  but not every time. Apparently, the bots have gotten too good about 
solving the audio challenges, so they have had to come up with another way. 
Now, you have to put an accessibility cooky into your browser which is good for 
24 hours. Your ip address is monitored,  and this cooky only can be used a 
limited number of times within that 24 hours, or you will be permanently banned 
from using the system. To get this cooky, go to 

https://www.hcaptcha.com/accessibility
and read how to do it. They will send an email, you verify you are you, and hit 
the set cooky button. Be sure to save that email to use it to get another cooky 
when the old one no longer works. Unfortunately, those with IOS 14.5 have to 
turn off cross tracking for this to work, I hope I never forget to turn it back 
on when I am finished. But the one site I could not get into before I got my 
cooky let me in afterward. 

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RE: Apple accessibility and third-party apps

[Richard Turner]

I would say most times they try to help.
They may be at least willing to do a screen share so they can see what is 
happening and let you know if they think it is an MLB app issue, or an Apple 
issue.
I only have MLB audio and have not tried to get into archived games.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:59 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Apple accessibility and third-party apps

I wonder if anyone has any experience calling Accessibility at Apple regarding 
voiceover with a third-party app. I wouldn't suppose they would be much help, 
but I'm just wondering. I mentioned before that I was having problems with the 
MLB app, not being able to go back in the calendar to a previous month. I just 
talked to MLB's Accessibility person, and the conversation was ridiculous. She 
wanted me to uninstall the app, reset my modem, do all kinds of garbage that's 
totally not related to the fact that the app is not fully accessible. So either 
I'm missing something, and maybe that's where the Apple accessibility people 
can point out some thing that I'm not doing right, or there's just no way to do 
it. But her advice was absurd. I mean unlabeled buttons are not a problem 
that's going to be solved with all the garbage that she had me doing. So I 
didn't do it.


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Re: Apple accessibility and third-party apps

[Anthony Vece]

Mary; I’ve called Apple about third-party apps. It really depends on the 
representative who you get. Some will work and some won’t. However, you have 
nothing to lose. Try it. Stay safe 
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone has any experience calling Accessibility at Apple 
> regarding voiceover with a third-party app. I wouldn’t suppose they would be 
> much help, but I’m just wondering. I mentioned before that I was having 
> problems with the MLB app, not being able to go back in the calendar to a 
> previous month. I just talked to MLB‘s Accessibility person, and the 
> conversation was ridiculous. She wanted me to uninstall the app, reset my 
> modem, do all kinds of garbage that’s totally not related to the fact that 
> the app is not fully accessible. So either I’m missing something, and maybe 
> that’s where the Apple accessibility people can point out some thing that I’m 
> not doing right, or there’s just no way to do it. But her advice was absurd. 
> I mean unlabeled buttons are not a problem that’s going to be solved with all 
> the garbage that she had me doing. So I didn’t do it.
> 
> 
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Apple accessibility and third-party apps

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if anyone has any experience calling Accessibility at Apple regarding 
voiceover with a third-party app. I wouldn’t suppose they would be much help, 
but I’m just wondering. I mentioned before that I was having problems with the 
MLB app, not being able to go back in the calendar to a previous month. I just 
talked to MLB‘s Accessibility person, and the conversation was ridiculous. She 
wanted me to uninstall the app, reset my modem, do all kinds of garbage that’s 
totally not related to the fact that the app is not fully accessible. So either 
I’m missing something, and maybe that’s where the Apple accessibility people 
can point out some thing that I’m not doing right, or there’s just no way to do 
it. But her advice was absurd. I mean unlabeled buttons are not a problem 
that’s going to be solved with all the garbage that she had me doing. So I 
didn’t do it.


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RE: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think Google Assistant can connect to Apple Music, but I am not 100% 
sure. Alexa definitely can and while we have several Google speakers around the 
house, all our Sonos speakers are set up with Alexa because we like the fact 
that we can then play Audible books as well as use our Apple Music 
subscription. You can always call Sonos support at 800-680-2345 to find out.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 5:32 AM
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Subject: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

Hi everyone,

I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
ideas?

Thanks in advance
Ian

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RE: Accessible flight booking apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Expedia is a general travel booking service, an online travel agency so to 
speak and you can book pretty much anything with it, from a hotel in your own 
town/city to domestic or international flights, rental cars and more. You can 
always go to the Expedia website.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible flight booking apps

Hi Sieghard

Does this app deal with only international travel or domestic / national travel 
also?

I'm  just thinking of a second option for here in NZ travelling within the 
country rather than out of it,

Mind you we don't have a lot of places to go anyway!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 4:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible flight booking apps

Expedia works well, I have also used a couple of specific airlines apps and 
most seem pretty accessible. All of these are free so nothing lost if you try, 
Applevis may also have some more detailed eviews.


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TaraPrakash
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible flight booking apps

Hello all. 
I need your input regarding flight booking apps, individual flight apps as well 
as  General booking services . These apps need to be  accessible with The 
latest iOS. 
All your suggestions are appreciated 
  

Sent  from my iPhone

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Re: EnVision Smart Glasses Vs. OrCam

[Michael Irons]

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> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:31 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in learning about these glasses too. I do know that Access 
> Ingenuity sells them but I guess you can go to letsenvision.com to find other 
> dealers there should be a link labeled distributors.
> 
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>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 6:12 AM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Can anybody provide me with evaluations or comparisons of the Envision Smart 
>> Glasses and the OrCam?  I have a trainee who is testing the OrCam, and it 
>> seems to me that EnVision might do what she needs, perhaps for a lot less 
>> money.  Also, any information about EnVision dealers in the US would be 
>> helpful.
>>  
>>  
>> Dean
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>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
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Re: EnVision Smart Glasses Vs. OrCam

[CHELA Robles]

I'm interested in learning about these glasses too. I do know that Access 
Ingenuity sells them but I guess you can go to letsenvision.com to find other 
dealers there should be a link labeled distributors.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 6:12 AM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can anybody provide me with evaluations or comparisons of the Envision Smart 
> Glasses and the OrCam?  I have a trainee who is testing the OrCam, and it 
> seems to me that EnVision might do what she needs, perhaps for a lot less 
> money.  Also, any information about EnVision dealers in the US would be 
> helpful.
>  
>  
> Dean
>  
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EnVision Smart Glasses Vs. OrCam

[Dean Martineau]

Can anybody provide me with evaluations or comparisons of the Envision Smart
Glasses and the OrCam?  I have a trainee who is testing the OrCam, and it
seems to me that EnVision might do what she needs, perhaps for a lot less
money.  Also, any information about EnVision dealers in the US would be
helpful.

 

 

Dean

 

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OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

[Ian Harrison]

Hi everyone,

I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
ideas?

Thanks in advance
Ian

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RE: iMessages help needed

[Dennis Long]

Thanks that worked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages help needed

 

If you do not have iMessages set to save your voice messages that it’s going to 
expire after two minutes what I would do is the following.

Go to settings go to where messages is located scroll down until you get to 
audio messages there should be an option to never expire you wanna double tap 
that one and then you’ll be able to see voice messages for much longer. If this 
does not help write in again and someone will hopefully be able to help you out 
there.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 1, 2021, at 7:53 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I had someone send me a voice message on I messages.  I see my voice messages.  
I don’t see the one they sent me what am I doing wrong?

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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

['Andrew Walker' via VIPhone]

Hello Mike. I have the Tado thermostat which works well with Voiceover. I 
can set schedules, alter temperatures in the app. It can also be used with 
the Amazon Echo and may be used with Google but I have not tried this. It 
can track your movements and turn on or off if nobody is at home. I have 
had this for three or four years.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
> accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
> open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
> use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
> our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from 
> anywhere.  All help is greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

['Andrew Walker' via VIPhone]

I have had the Tado thermostat for three or four years now. The app works 
with Voiceover to set schedules, alter the temperature etc. The Tado can 
track your movements and turn on or off automatically should nobody be at 
home. It also works with the Amazon Echo well and may well work with 
Google, but I have not tried this.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
> accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
> open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
> use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
> our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from 
> anywhere.  All help is greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
>

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RE: Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community

[marco.curr]

Hello everyone,

  

Blind Tech Guys now has a club on ClubHouse and we invite you all to join our 
ever-growing community.

  

You will find the podcast here, where we discuss Android, iOS, and any other 
technology product or service from a blindness perspective.

The Blind Tech Guys are two blind podcasters who make it their mission to bring 
you this content. Blind Tech Guys is published weekly, with occasional bonus 
midweek episodes.

We are aware that it can be difficult to find technology resources from a 
blindness perspective. While there are other podcasts out there, we believe 
that the landscape is fragmented, and our strengths lie in providing you with 
tech content and commentary that is useful and easy to understand. We know you 
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