Re: Average lenth of time? Installing & restarting upon iOS updates

2024-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
My 17.4 update was only one gig in size and it took no time at all to
install.  I was using my unlimited data because our wifi at my house
is complete crap.  Again, the update went smoothly with no issues.

On 3/6/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It depends on how large the update is for one thing.
> iOS 17.0 was huge!  It was over 6 GB.  I know, because my phone ended up not
> being on Wi-Fi and it put me over my cell data.  We have 1 GB per month
> because we are usually at home on Wi-Fi.  But, for some reason, my iPhone 13
> is often losing the Wi-Fi even though the screen says it is on our wi-fi
> network.
> I negotiated a reduced fee but still ended up paying more than double what
> we usually pay for our mobile service that month.
>
> And, I believe updates on iPads are often smaller than the ones on iPhones.
> But, it also depends on your wi-fi speed at the time of the update.
> Also, the processor speed in your device, etc.
>
> So, there is no average time that I'm aware of.  It just takes as long as it
> takes.
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>  -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 10:40 AM
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> Subject: Average lenth of time? Installing & restarting upon iOS updates
>
> Yesterday, the time it took to apply the update and restart the IPHone when
> updating to 17.4, was around 25 minutes or so, thus on my IPad, it was
> frairly quick! Less than maybe 4 or 5 minutes of silence! Which brings me to
> my inquiry of How long should it take, on average, once the update is
> downloaded (where the IPHone says that the update will pstart in so
> amount of time, or if you want to update now or later), until the IPHone
> restarts? Because ever since having this sE2020, the applying
> process has taken on average, about from 4–7 to 10/12 minutes at the most!,
> with the exception of when updating 17.0, the time was nearly 40 minutes! So
> on what factors does this downtime depend on? It’s so frustrating there’s no
> accessible way to know what’s going on, except waiting and hoping!
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Average lenth of time? Installing & restarting upon iOS updates

2024-03-06 Thread Richard Turner 
It depends on how large the update is for one thing.
iOS 17.0 was huge!  It was over 6 GB.  I know, because my phone ended up not 
being on Wi-Fi and it put me over my cell data.  We have 1 GB per month because 
we are usually at home on Wi-Fi.  But, for some reason, my iPhone 13 is often 
losing the Wi-Fi even though the screen says it is on our wi-fi network.
I negotiated a reduced fee but still ended up paying more than double what we 
usually pay for our mobile service that month.

And, I believe updates on iPads are often smaller than the ones on iPhones.
But, it also depends on your wi-fi speed at the time of the update.
Also, the processor speed in your device, etc.

So, there is no average time that I'm aware of.  It just takes as long as it 
takes.

HTH,



Richard, USA
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Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 10:40 AM
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Subject: Average lenth of time? Installing & restarting upon iOS updates

Yesterday, the time it took to apply the update and restart the IPHone when 
updating to 17.4, was around 25 minutes or so, thus on my IPad, it was frairly 
quick! Less than maybe 4 or 5 minutes of silence! Which brings me to my inquiry 
of How long should it take, on average, once the update is downloaded 
(where the IPHone says that the update will pstart in so amount of time, or if 
you want to update now or later), until the IPHone restarts? Because ever since 
having this sE2020, the applying process has taken on average, about 
from 4–7 to 10/12 minutes at the most!, with the exception of when updating 
17.0, the time was nearly 40 minutes! So on what factors does this downtime 
depend on? It’s so frustrating there’s no accessible way to know what’s going 
on, except waiting and hoping!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Average lenth of time? Installing & restarting upon iOS updates

2024-03-06 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
Yesterday, the time it took to apply the update and restart the IPHone when 
updating to 17.4, was around 25 minutes or so, thus on my IPad, it was frairly 
quick! Less than maybe 4 or 5 minutes of silence! Which brings me to my inquiry 
of How long should it take, on average, once the update is downloaded 
(where the IPHone says that the update will pstart in so amount of time, or if 
you want to update now or later), until the IPHone restarts? Because ever since 
having this sE2020, the applying process has taken on average, about 
from 4–7 to 10/12 minutes at the most!, with the exception of when updating 
17.0, the time was nearly 40 minutes! So on what factors does this downtime 
depend on? It’s so frustrating there’s no accessible way to know what’s going 
on, except waiting and hoping!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Richard Turner 
What I find interesting about this is that on my 13 pro, I use Tom Enhanced 
most of the time but have Ava set as my default.

I touch the status bar and it is always Tom speaking.  It has never switched to 
Ava in iOS 17.4.

I guess I’m lucky.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
April Yuille
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 5:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

Ah, somehow I missed that article.

 

Thanks

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.

Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro max

 

On Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone mailto:alex.stonefootball...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Debbie, which phone have you got?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille mailto:debbieap...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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Hi all,

  
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RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Debbie April Yuille 
Ah, somehow I missed that article.

 

Thanks

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.

Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro max





On Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:

Debbie, which phone have you got?

Sent from my iPhone





On 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:



Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro maxOn Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:Debbie, which phone have you got?Sent from my iPhoneOn 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:Hi AllI've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away. CheersDebbie



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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Alex Stone 
Debbie, which phone have you got?Sent from my iPhoneOn 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:Hi AllI've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away. CheersDebbie



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Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Debbie April Yuille 
Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange
bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another
rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status
bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the
status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried
uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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