Hi guys, I have noticed after updating to IOS 7. My iPhone4 handset is
jumping to loud speaker all the time.
Could this Issue be due to the update or something else.
If anyone could advise or help please do, Billyet
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this should be fixed in 7.0.4, update to that if you can. Regards Chris.
On 20/12/2013 09:49, BroxiBear wrote:
Hi guys, I have noticed after updating to IOS 7. My iPhone4 handset is
jumping to loud speaker all the time.
Could this Issue be due to the update or something else.
If
I have looked through the contacts and see no way to activate such a process
thanks very much
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Hi,
I amd having trouble adding an appointment to my calendar. I go through the
process of entering the event name, date/time, etc. and everything seems
fine. I double-tap the done Button and am taken back to the screen that
shows the days of the month. However, when I focus on the day I
Traci,
So far anything they have added that I use personally has been perfectly
accessible. Note that there are some channels they've added where you
have to be subscribed via one of the cable or satellite providers that
are on their list. Unfortunately, DirecTv isn't one of them so I can't
Can anyone tell me about an app or a way to accept follower requests? I can't
figure it out.
Thank you so much!
Jenn
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There is no request to accept or decline. You are told when someone follows you
and you can choose to follow them back. If two people follow each other, they
can exchange direct messages that cannot be seen by their followers.
Respectfully,
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:44,
I have my tweets protected so no one but my followers can see my tweets. I jut
got a note this morning from the twitter app that a friend requests to follow
me on Twitter.
Jenn
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There is no request
Are you following them?
Respectfully,
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I have my tweets protected so no one but my followers can see my tweets. I
jut got a note this morning from the twitter app that a friend requests to
follow me
I guess the official app can do this: otherwise you could go through the web.
https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169376
Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.
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I have my tweets protected so no one but my followers can see my
I am now. I figured out that my tweets are protected. How do I change this?
Thank you so much!
Jenn
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Are you following them?
Respectfully,
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:52, Jennie
In the calendar, after you enter an appointment and touch done, go to the
left-hand corner and double tap and 2013 will come up. I either swipe to look
for the day at this point or double tap 2013 to go to search and look for the
day there. It will say you have an appointment, and double tap to
Hi all,
Since I got the moviereading app, I only see the first movie there. Thought
they'd add more every week. Am I missing something or did any of you hear
anything about this from the developer?
I just sent them a question about it and will keep. You posted.
Best,
Ioana
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I sent them a note 2 days ago with this question, but haven't heard back.
Philomena is the only one I can find under the Market tab.
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Okay, here is the dense question of the month. How do you read a book share
book on the iPhone? What app is best and how to get the book in to the app?
Thanks for any help with this.
Kay
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Hi Kay,
I like voice dream reader for this.
If you use voice dream, you can download book share books from the app itself
by linking book share to the app.
some people like read 2 go, but that app is just for use with book share.
voice dream works with more then just bookshare, which is why I
Hi Kay,
I will recommend voice dream. In the app, sign into bookshare and you are
good to go!
Godwin Adoyi
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Subject: reading a book
Hi
Does anyone know of a simple calculator app for the iPad that is accessible?
I know the iPhone comes with a calculator but the iPad does not. Not sure
why that is.
Thanks in advance
Ed
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Its called StandScan Pro. It works very well. I still think they should
charge a little more for it and have it made of a better material.
Cardboard is not very durable unless you leave it on the corner of your
desk.
Other than that, it's a fantastic little device.
Ron Danvers
The official Twitter app isn't being very helpful, but you can change to public
tweets by logging into Twitter through the website and going to account
settings. Accept following requests before you switch though, or anyone who
tried to follow you before will have to follow you again since
No wonder she changed her name!
Ron Danvers
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The artist goes by the
Hi all.
I got so much videos like mpg, avi, and that kind of formats that iTunes
doesn't play. What software can I use to become those movies in formats that
iTunes support?
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I haven’t tried that one but you could take a look at one called Speaking
Calculator. I’ve heard from a friend that it works very well.
Mike Malarsie
www.malarsie.com
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Hi
Does anyone know of a simple calculator app for the iPad
VOCalc springs to mind; quite cheap, maybe free. watch out for
capitalisation of spelling.
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Subject: Simple calculator for iPad
Hi
Does anyone know of a
Got the app installed and yes, the notification which says 6 days until
your first gift is very much accessible. I'm sure the rest will be as
well. I thought I saw someone post on here that they are already getting
free iTunes gifts via this app. Is this a country-specific thing in that
case?
Hi Ioana,
Did you see the series you can buy so that you can use them at home with
DVD's. You can buy narration for complete series and that is good but I see
your point about movies. Many movies have hit the screen since that one and
no news!
Ron Danvers
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Has anyone found any of the Comcast Xfinity apps useful or, even accessible on
the iPhone 5s with VoiceOver?
Thanks in advance.
Anthony
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What is Fleksy? I am not familiar with this app?
On 12/19/2013 02:49, Harry Bell wrote:
I have just downloaded the latest version of Fleksy on my iphpne 5S on ios
7.0.4. I used the earlier version a while back on old 3 GS fine - but now none
of the swipe gestures work! I type a word and
Hi Caitlyn,
I do have voice dream reader but do not have the book share app and wondered
if I can just save the whole Daisy file to Voice Dream or what. Thanks
much.
Kay
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Hi everyone,
I know that this thread is over 6 months old but I would still like to try
my luck and ask you guys if you have any experience with the desktop
version of Booking.com and if so, what do you think of it?
Their app seems to be up to date on the accessibility front, which is great
Can you use these apps without anything else? I only have my i-phone phone.
Thanks in advance for the info.
Cathy Pilot Dog, Tiny:
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There is 2 beeps for a 2 dollar bill.
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Hello listers. I tested both iPhone 5c and 5s and found the sound quality quite
wanting as compared to 4s and 5. It is much inferior and also cracks a lot. has
this been addressed in the latest IOS update?
Thanks and regards
Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
Lucknow
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Sure, on android, it doesn't work with talkback, right? Or has something
changed. It would be really nice if, when you proselytize for android, you
would tell the whole story.
Mary
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
What would be even
With the eyenote you have to make sure your bill is completely unfolded where
looktell would recognize the bill even with it folded in half.
In my opinion looktell is still far better than eyenote.
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Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I am
teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth
investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the iPad
offer any extra
No wonder I couldn't find it, I was spelling it wrong!
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Subject: New EyeNote
I finally got the new EyeNote app to work. Works pretty
Is there really no way to tell the mail app on an iPhone or an iPad that you do
not wish to include the full message to which you are replying? You can do it
on the Mac, but if it's available here on the phone, I'm sure not finding it.
Mary
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Since people with disabilities other than blindness require all fields to be
accessible in the tab order, or what you might call the swipe order in thinking
about a touchscreen, it would seem, then, that these fields that must be
accessed via touch are a giant accessibility fail. The question
You have to go into settings and find it there, and go into it and turn on the
buttons. I hope this help you. If you need more info, I will get my phone and
write down step by step on how you get it to work.
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I would assume that they had to save 2 beeps for the $2 bill.
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Hi, I posted a message on
I am able to set alarms for the future with my i-phone running the latest
firmware.
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Ceri actually also will set alarms in the future. I have dates way out
in August of 2014 already.
On 12/17/2013 22:02, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Well, could you use the repeat in clock and then get rid of it after the day you want
has gone by? For example, say you want an alarm for Christmas
I believe it was reported earlier on this list that word box is not voice over
friendly. Have people found this not to be the case?
Mary
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
I found the text editor that can use the Fleksy keyboard. It is
Hello everyone,
For those who don't know me my name is Scott. I have an Iphone 5 and I
just did a backup/restore through Itunes last wee because I was having
trouble finding the Edit and Greetings buttons in the Voicemail tab.
What I did is:
1. Go to Phone.
2. Go to Voicemail tab and
Was offering Philomena just a way of getting us to buy their DVD narrations
or will they keep up with the movie market?
Ron Danvers
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Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Friday, December 20,
I asked about e-mailing myself a text message because that's the method I
use to send text messages to my sister's and Dad's phones; one has an
iPhone, the other does not.
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Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, December 19,
Right. Word box is not accessible. I learned this after I bought it.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
On Dec 18, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe it was reported earlier on this list that word box is not voice
over friendly.
I've had pretty good success with the eye note app so far. I tossed a
bill on my bed, didn't do anything to unfold it or press it flat, so it
was curling up at the ends, and eyenote recognized it right away with no
problems. I don't have any other money recognizing apps to compare it
to,
Hi Raul,
I don't know if it is country specific but it was just a preview gift. I
automatically assumed that it was across the board since Apple is
international but, who knows!
Also, I should mention that the notice of the first gift came up in the
notifications so I guess it will every day
In the welcome screen, it said, Here's a gift to get you started. It was
the song by Lorde. Once I downloaded it, I got, Check back on the 26th
for more. I live in the US.
Teresa
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Agent086b wrote:
Hi,
in Australia
I guess it was the same offer everywhere as that is what it was in Canada.
Got to agree with you about the artist. When I first heard it, I said: Oh
Lord!
Ron Danvers
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Just as an FYI, Safari is an Apple app, so if anything needs to be done
in Safari, it would also have to be address by Apple. I'm not familiar
with the problem described, but it would be interesting if this problem
is also seen using Chrome on the iPhone.
In addition to the screen reader, the
Aruni,
I think you will find that if you update to the latest IOS, 7.04, you'll
find this audio issue is gone.
Best Regards,
Rick alfaro
On 12/19/2013 10:16 PM, Aruni Sharma wrote:
Hello listers. I tested both iPhone 5c and 5s and found the sound quality quite
wanting as compared to 4s
It's a keyboard replacement that predicts what you want to type based on
the patterns your fingers tap out on a querty keyboard. From the Fleksy
web site at http://fleksy.com/
Fleksy is an application that replaces your device’s on–screen keyboard.
Tap-typing reinvented
Fleksy uses the
Yes, it's mentioned in the apps description that two beeps indicates a
two dollar bill.
On 12/20/2013 07:47 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
Hi
I would assume that they had to save 2 beeps for the $2 bill.
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Behalf Of *Andrew J.
Okay, now I got what you want to do so in order to test the text tone don't
need to use the messages app and send yourself an iMessage via your email you
were talking about so just make sure yourself is in your contacts in and then
find yourself, type whatever you want to send to yourselves
I don't see the original question below, but you can get to the settings
for eyenote by going into the iPhone's Settings and finding the eyenote
app in the list near the bottom. You can toggle having the settings
buttons in the eyenote app itself and you can configure how eyenote
identifies
Hello Scott, I'm not having any problems here finding any buttons in the
voicemail.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 17, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Scott B. sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
For those who don't know me my name is Scott. I have an Iphone 5
Hi,
I recommend Big Calculator Free by Tioga Designs, LLC:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/big-calculator-free/id374174252?mt=8
The Big Calc Free app has some features that even VOCalc doesn't have -- like
being able to check the contents of your memory sum register just by touching
the key on
Hi,
For Windows I like Handbrake Batch Encoder from
http://handbrakebatchencode.codeplex.com/ and for adding metadata to
the converted files which you'll most likely want to do, I like MetaX
which can be found at http://www.danhinsley.com/
Cheers,
Ben.
On 12/20/13, Pablo Morales
Hi,
Right now on my device I'm using the xfinity connect app which lets you
interact with email and voicemails as well as displaying caller ID
notifications on your mobile device for their home phone service should you
have that with them. I also have used xfinity wi-fi
You need to suspend talkback while you type with fleksy but there is a
gesture to do this.
Original message:
Sure, on android, it doesn't work with talkback, right? Or has
something changed. It would be really nice if, when you proselytize for
android, you would tell the whole story.
Mary
Hi all.Have you seen that the wells fargo app is not pretty accessible now?
I am not able to type my user name or password. Every time when i try it, just
make a beep, and is no way to type anything on the text fields. How the people
who uses wells fargo is handling this app?
Thanks
Pablo
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Hi all.Have you seen that the wells fargo app is not pretty accessible
now?
I am not able to type my user name or password. Every time when i try
it, just make a beep, and is no way to type anything on the text
fields. How the people who uses wells
Hi listers
I have music on my phone that I want to delete. Is there a way to do this
without manually having to delete every song? Can I do a full delete on my
phone, without going into itunes?
It says I have 552 songs on my phone, but I dont, but the names of albums I
purchased are still
Hi,
I am hoping that you have a fairly current backup either in the cloud or on
your computer. I would roll it back to a time in place where Wells Fargo
worked for you. I haven't updated and I don't have any problems with the
Wells Fargo app on my iPhone4. Is that the only problem you are
Wells Fargo is supposed to have a team that works on accessibility
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.Have you seen that the wells fargo app is not pretty accessible now?
I am not able to type my user name or password. Every
Is the Big Calculator Free work with VO?
Ed
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Hi,
I recommend Big
Hi Ron,
I did not see this. Where would one get them and can you use the naration with
the app or how would it work?
Thanks,
Ioana
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Ioana,
Did you see the series you can buy so that
Right now I am on the phone with wells fargo, I got 37 min on hold, they are
trying to understand what do I mean when I talk about accessibility.
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: Re:
I love Uber and I love the app. You can request a car in the app, it
will show you how long it will be before it comes. You can call or
text the driver directly which is very handy if you're in a crowd etc.
It's the most fabulous car service I've ever used and they've made
their app accessible. It
Someone may have brought this up already, but try read to go. I use it and it
works just fine. You can download and read bookshare books on the app with no
problem. HTH.
Matthew
On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, here is the dense question of
I downloaded this calculator and there are a bunch of buttons that just say
button. So is there any way to label the buttons as to what they are?
Ed
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Of Esther
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I use the Wells Fargo app. Where its accessibility with the latest update is
lacking. The app is still usable. With beep is the users sign that a
letter/number has been entered. The app also doesn't indicate when the edit
field has been selected. So when voiceover says username just double tap
Yes, Big Calc Free works very well with VoiceOver on the iPad. It may be
because there is an in-app purchase option to use this as a talking calculator
that the accessibility is so good. Of course, you don't need to purchase that
option. And when I said that you could check the contents of
When I initially made a face time call I was asked if I wanted to use email
or phone number. Two questions here. How can you make a face time call
just using an email address, and how can you make a face time call to
someone that is not in your contacts? Thanks much for any help.
Kay
I'd assume the email address means the email address used for their
Apple ID.
On 12/20/2013 05:17 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
When I initially made a face time call I was asked if I wanted to use
email or phone number. Two questions here. How can you make a face
time call just using an email
It's weird if you have unlabeled buttons. The only unlabeled buttons were under
the paper tape section, where the button covers the text area of the subsequent
text. So if you ignore the unlabeled button and flick right to the text, you
get to exactly the same navigation controls. Are you in
The way Facetime works is that it associates the device you're using with an
Apple ID and then with email addresses and phone numbers. When you make a
Facetime call, you give the Apple server an email address to contact, it then
reaches out and sees if that address is associated with an Apple
Yes, exactly.
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: face time calls
I'd assume the email address means the email address used for their
Apple ID.
On 12/20/2013 05:17 PM, Kay
Hi Anthony,
I use the Xfinity TV app to watch HBO movies, etc.
Suzanne
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Subject: Comcast Xfinity!!!
Hi
Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in terms
of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the interface
that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if you use
Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the
I can't see a way around adding them to contacts.
Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.
On Dec 20, 2013, at 15:24, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, exactly.
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I thought the message already did a good job of describing this, but
it's a way for someone who wants a ride to hook up with a driver who
could give them the ride. I used google to find https://www.uber.com/
where you can find out more.
On 12/20/2013 05:22 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
There is
Okay, so it is better to use the zipped file and import it like that?
Thanks much
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Subject: Re: reading a book share book
Read2Go has only two voices but costs twice as
You can do this with the messages app by selecting compose but there isn't an
equivalent in Facetime as far as I can tell.
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Yes, VDR will decompress it automatically, and a zip file lets it keep all the
files that are part of the book together. It is hard to import a folder, so a
zip file is the best way to do it. The app has a manual that explains
everything in detail - it is the help file you'll see when you open
Ester,
I downloaded the Big Calculator Free app. All the number buttons work with
VO. The equals,plus,minus and other buttons do not work with VO. All it
says on those when I put my finger on them is button. Are you having the
same issues with your Big Calculator Fee app?
Ed
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Okay, that is what I am finding out and I just wondered if anyone knew
something I didn't. Thanks much for your help.
Kay
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Esther,
I am using portrait mode.
Ed,
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It's weird if you have unlabeled
I'll check out that help file. I usually do but this time I must confess to
not having read any documentation. Thanks much.
Kay
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: reading a book share book
I prefer read to go. It is made by the same people who operate book share. It
costs a little bit more, but the money goes for good cause.
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Hello Ed,
You wrote:
Ester,
I downloaded the Big Calculator Free app. All the number buttons work with
VO. The equals,plus,minus and other buttons do not work with VO. All it
says on those when I put my finger on them is button. Are you having the
same issues with your Big Calculator Fee app?
EXCUSE ME Robert! I take offense of being called a liar I use the Wells
Fargo app on most days at least once. Being that I can't see to read the
sales receipt, I check my account to make sure that the checkout clerk
didn't try anything funny and tell me one thing for my total purchase, but
I only was saying what it does for me, nothing against you.
,it will not let me enter any information and if i try and then select log in
it says the user name and password were not entered please reenter.
So, on my end it is broken, if it works for you that is great but for me it
does not.
That
there is the actual bookshare app called read to go and there is voice dream
reader. voice dream reader is cheaper. you can also purchase additional
voices.
From: Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading a book share book
Okay,
Hi all, I also use the WellsFargo app. There is an option in the new updated
version that says save username and I think there is one for save password
those options need to be either turned off or turned on I find that even though
it doesn't make much of a sound when you enter in the
Ed,
I'm baffled by the unlabeled buttons you're finding. All the keypad buttons for
Big Calc Free are spoken by VoiceOver on the two different iPad models I
mentioned (iPad Mini first generation and 4th generation iPad). And that has
worked under both iOS 6 and iOS 7.
If Big Calculator Free
For a visually impaired person, perhaps. For a totally blind one, none. I'm
going to post about my experiences to my blog soon, but long story short, I
just recently gave mine away because for me personally, the iPhone and iPad
were redundant. To each his own, but if it's an educational setting
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