Re: iPhone 7 lightening port and audio

[englishrider91]

Sounds weird. I don't see how can be a connection between their having the 
battery charged and the EarPods not disconnecting are related. You shouldn't 
have to lock an iPhone in order to charge it, or the battery case.

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> I have played audio either through the shipped apple buds or through the 
> adaptor and have had the problem of the buds being dropped and sound falling 
> back to the speakers.  I discovered that I wasn't charging the apple smart 
> case and when I solved that problem, I haven't had the bud problem since.  I 
> discovered that I had to leave the phone on in locked mode and plugged into 
> the wall in order to charge both phone and case.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 7 lightening port and audio
> 
> Hi Gordon, I haven't experienced this problem, but I haven't been using 
> earbuds. I was using headphones with the adapter. No switching back to the 
> speaker. I don't guess that helps.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> So this started happening on my iPhone after getting the update to 10.2. I 
>> plug in the ear buds or regular head phones using the adapter. I pull up 
>> iheart radio or apple music and listen to some music. Everything works fine 
>> until I hit the home button or sometimes when I stop the music. At that 
>> point audio moves back to the phone speakers and I have to unplug and plug 
>> in to get audio back through the head phones. So am I having some lightening 
>> port issues or is anyone else experiencing this? The phone charges fine and 
>> there doesn't appear to be any other issues. I first noticed this when 
>> getting the 10.2 update. Also it sometimes happens if a station is taking a 
>> little more time than usual to load.
>> 
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Re: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

[englishrider91]

I've tried deleting and reinstalling, as well as closing all apps in the app 
switcher before starting, and neither of those things really helped. I get 
tossed out of KNFBReader pretty often. What also happens a lot is that I get no 
field of view report. It just mays "no report available." Also, another thing 
that'll happen is that when I get a successful picture and then press the back 
button after all the text has been read, it just sits there and doesn't go back 
to the main screen. I have to completely close the app to restore functionality.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have a 6S Plus as well and this has never happened to me. I would delete 
> KNFB and reinstall it, I believe somebody else also mentioned that maybe 
> because iut does use a fair bit of resources (all the OCR is done on the 
> phone and not in the cloud) that it is a good idea to close some apps if you 
> have many of them open. I habitually close my apps throughout the day so I 
> rarely have more than 2 or 3 of them open.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Keeps throwing me out
>  
> Yes, I’ve recently purchased KNFB, and I would say 1 out of 4 or 5 times it 
> just throws me out after taking the picture (using my 6S plus).
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
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> Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}
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> Subject: KNFB Keeps throwing me out
>  
> I am running the latest update to my IPhone 6s and when using KNFB to scan a 
> document, 2 out of 3 times I will get thrown out and have to go back in. Has 
> anyone else had this issue? I did try reinstalling but no improvements.
>  
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Re: Looking for an app, please,

[Robert Doc Wright]

Maria I just sent Gate Guru and I'm hoping to send my favorite which even 
tells you about the gates and what can be found there. Its called Airport 
life.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for an app, please,


I love the FlightView app for getting gate info ant other info about my 
flights. It does real time tracking but I've never used this feature. It 
comes in a free, a 99 cent, and an elite version but I don't recall their 
differences. I have the elite version and it works great with VoiceOver and 
I find its interface intuitive and easy to use.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 22, 2016, at 2:40 AM, Mária Orovčíková  
wrote:



Hello list,
please, is there any Voiceover accessible tracking flights app available 
that would give me information not only about departures and arivals, but 
also about current plane location during the flight. Thanks for help in 
advance.

Maria
Odoslané z iPhonu

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Re: getting started with knfb reader

[englishrider91]

Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire 
message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
>  
> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
> get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
> don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
> fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the 
> fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR 
> app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so 
> you have to decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying 
> full price is worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look 
> for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then 
> when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift 
> cards purchased at 20% off you essentially get the app for almost half price.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>  
> Hi there,
>  
> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
> since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
> don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. 
> I would say, to a new user, do the following:
> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
> holding the phone nice and horizontal.
> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
> screen.
> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre 
> of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need 
> help)  Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.
>  
> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera 
> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!
>  
> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
> given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some 
> success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. 
>  
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
> $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
> quite a bit further in price.
> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and 
> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting 
> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you 
> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his 
> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device 
> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is 
> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why 
> they’re not getting any results.
> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even 
> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats 
> you shouldn’t expect too much.
> Evan
>  
> From: Michael Maslo
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>  
> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this 
> will go on sale for Christmas?
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not 
> hearing results immediately.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon 
> [gor...@gordonradio.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
> 
> Try holding your phone higher
> 
> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
> I've found that about six inches is 

Braigo? Re: getting started with knfb reader

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Anyone who tried the Braigo app, does it recognize text in Spanish for 
instance? Thanks for the tip!


El 23/12/2016 06:30 p.m., Chip Orange escribió:

Hi Donald,

There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as 
well.  It's name is Braigo.

I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, 
or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try.

Hth,

Chip



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  So far none of them has helped.

Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader?  I sometimes need to
read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good
things about this app.

Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ?

On 12/22/16, Evan Reese  wrote:

No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
 From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down
quite a bit further in price.
It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you
have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his
dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device
above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is
something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand
why they’re not getting any results.
He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even
if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of
caveats you shouldn’t expect too much.
Evan

From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this
will go on sale for Christmas?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
  wrote:

   Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not
hearing results immediately.


   
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

   Try holding your phone higher

   from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
   I've found that about six inches is good.
   On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
   >  Hello,
   >
   >  Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
   >  read product packaging.
   >
   >  I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader
   >  to recognize any text.  I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD
   >  cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text.
   >
   >  According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I
   >  never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view.
   >
   >  Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my
money?
   >

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RE: deleting an app

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Louise,

1.   Double tap and hold until you hear move.

2.   Double tap the app you want to delete.

3.   A menu will open 

4.   Now swipe right until you hear delete.

5.   Double tap on delete to delete the app.

6.   Now press the home button once to get out of editing mode. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: deleting an app

 

Hello:

How do you delete an app you no longer want?  Thanks. 

Best:

Louise

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Re: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

[Richard]

Yes, I have experienced the same on more than one occasion.
Richard
- Original Message - 
From: "Chip Orange" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: KNFB Keeps throwing me out


Yes, I’ve recently purchased KNFB, and I would say 1 out of 4 or 5 times it 
just throws me out after taking the picture (using my 6S plus).



Chip





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Keeps throwing me out



I am running the latest update to my IPhone 6s and when using KNFB to scan a 
document, 2 out of 3 times I will get thrown out and have to go back in. Has 
anyone else had this issue? I did try reinstalling but no improvements.



Blind Treasures

PH: 804-726-8900

E-Mail: blindtreasu...@comcast.net

WWW.blindtreasures.com 



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Recording apps

[Maria Reyes]

WHICH app do you guys recommend DropVox or Just Press Record? 

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deleting an app

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Hello:
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RE: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have a 6S Plus as well and this has never happened to me. I would delete KNFB 
and reinstall it, I believe somebody else also mentioned that maybe because iut 
does use a fair bit of resources (all the OCR is done on the phone and not in 
the cloud) that it is a good idea to close some apps if you have many of them 
open. I habitually close my apps throughout the day so I rarely have more than 
2 or 3 of them open.

Regards,
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Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

Yes, I’ve recently purchased KNFB, and I would say 1 out of 4 or 5 times it 
just throws me out after taking the picture (using my 6S plus).

Chip


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Subject: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

I am running the latest update to my IPhone 6s and when using KNFB to scan a 
document, 2 out of 3 times I will get thrown out and have to go back in. Has 
anyone else had this issue? I did try reinstalling but no improvements.

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RE: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

[Chip Orange]

Yes, I’ve recently purchased KNFB, and I would say 1 out of 4 or 5 times it 
just throws me out after taking the picture (using my 6S plus).

 

Chip

 

 

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Subject: KNFB Keeps throwing me out

 

I am running the latest update to my IPhone 6s and when using KNFB to scan a 
document, 2 out of 3 times I will get thrown out and have to go back in. Has 
anyone else had this issue? I did try reinstalling but no improvements.

 

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RE: getting started with knfb reader

[Chip Orange]

Hi Donald,

There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as 
well.  It's name is Braigo.

I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, 
or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try.

Hth,

Chip



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Donald Raikes
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  So far none of them has helped.

Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader?  I sometimes need to
read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good
things about this app.

Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ?

On 12/22/16, Evan Reese  wrote:
> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down
> quite a bit further in price.
> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you
> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his
> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device
> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is
> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand
> why they’re not getting any results.
> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even
> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of
> caveats you shouldn’t expect too much.
> Evan
>
> From: Michael Maslo
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>
> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this
> will go on sale for Christmas?
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
>  wrote:
>
>   Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not
> hearing results immediately.
>
>
>   
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
>   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>
>   Try holding your phone higher
>
>   from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
>   I've found that about six inches is good.
>   On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>   > Hello,
>   >
>   > Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
>   > read product packaging.
>   >
>   > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader
>   > to recognize any text.  I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD
>   > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text.
>   >
>   > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I
>   > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view.
>   >
>   > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my
> money?
>   >
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RE: iPhone 7 lightening port and audio

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have played audio either through the shipped apple buds or through the 
adaptor and have had the problem of the buds being dropped and sound falling 
back to the speakers.  I discovered that I wasn't charging the apple smart case 
and when I solved that problem, I haven't had the bud problem since.  I 
discovered that I had to leave the phone on in locked mode and plugged into the 
wall in order to charge both phone and case.


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Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 lightening port and audio

Hi Gordon, I haven't experienced this problem, but I haven't been using 
earbuds. I was using headphones with the adapter. No switching back to the 
speaker. I don't guess that helps.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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> So this started happening on my iPhone after getting the update to 10.2. I 
> plug in the ear buds or regular head phones using the adapter. I pull up 
> iheart radio or apple music and listen to some music. Everything works fine 
> until I hit the home button or sometimes when I stop the music. At that point 
> audio moves back to the phone speakers and I have to unplug and plug in to 
> get audio back through the head phones. So am I having some lightening port 
> issues or is anyone else experiencing this? The phone charges fine and there 
> doesn't appear to be any other issues. I first noticed this when getting the 
> 10.2 update. Also it sometimes happens if a station is taking a little more 
> time than usual to load.
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Re: iPhone 7 lightening port and audio

[Mary Otten]

Hi Gordon, I haven't experienced this problem, but I haven't been using 
earbuds. I was using headphones with the adapter. No switching back to the 
speaker. I don't guess that helps.
Mary


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> So this started happening on my iPhone after getting the update to 10.2. I 
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> iheart radio or apple music and listen to some music. Everything works fine 
> until I hit the home button or sometimes when I stop the music. At that point 
> audio moves back to the phone speakers and I have to unplug and plug in to 
> get audio back through the head phones. So am I having some lightening port 
> issues or is anyone else experiencing this? The phone charges fine and there 
> doesn't appear to be any other issues. I first noticed this when getting the 
> 10.2 update. Also it sometimes happens if a station is taking a little more 
> time than usual to load.
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KNFB Keeps throwing me out

[Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}]

I am running the latest update to my IPhone 6s and when using KNFB to scan a
document, 2 out of 3 times I will get thrown out and have to go back in. Has
anyone else had this issue? I did try reinstalling but no improvements.

 

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  WWW.blindtreasures.com

 

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Re: getting started with knfb reader

[Evan Reese]

Well, I’ll be visiting the friend of mine who has it over the new year, so I’ll 
get a chance to get a firsthand look at it, keeping in mind Sandy’s suggestions.
Evan


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: getting started with knfb reader

Hi Michael,

 

It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact 
is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out 
there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to 
decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is 
worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on 
iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale 
buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% 
off you essentially get the app for almost half price.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

 

Hi there,

 

Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I 
would say, to a new user, do the following:

1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
holding the phone nice and horizontal.

2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
screen.

3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of 
the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help)  
Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.

4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.

 

Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. 
Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!

 

Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, 
you will do these things naturally, without thinking. 

 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese  wrote:

  No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
$65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.

  From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
quite a bit further in price.

  It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and 
it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting 
gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have 
a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, 
and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the 
document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that 
might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not 
getting any results. 

  He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even 
if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats 
you shouldn’t expect too much.

  Evan

   

  From: Michael Maslo 

  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

   

  Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this 
will go on sale for Christmas? 

  On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:

Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not 
hearing results immediately.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Try holding your phone higher

from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
I've found that about six inches is good.
On 

RE: How do you uninstall scripts that work with iTunes and Jaws

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi John,

You should be able to uninstall these via Programs and Features or the scripts 
may have their own uninstaller in their programs folder. If you can’t get them 
to go away you should maybe reach out to John via the BlindTunes website and 
ask his advice. As Arnold said, if you removed Jaws and told it to remove your 
user folder they should also be gone, but this of course is a pretty drastic 
way since you will also delete all other user settings that way.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Christie
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: How do you uninstall scripts that work with iTunes and Jaws

Hi Arnold. I uninstalled all the components of Jaws then reinstalled Jaws but 
it didn’t work.

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Re: How do you uninstall Blind Tunes scripts that work with iTunes and 
Jaws

Arnold 
Schmidt
 Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:10:51 
-0800

I remember the reply you got to your question, but I have long since deleted

it, so I can not paraphrase the answer within it.  When I read it, it made

sense to me, but I remember that when I wanted to uninstall them from my

computer several years ago, the answer in that reply would not have worked for

me at that time. I ended up having to completely uninstall jaws, then reinstall

it. I said then that I think that when a company issues scripts for something,

they should be required to provide a way to remove them without having to

uninstall the program they are meant to improve. I hope you find a better way.



Arnold Schmidt



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On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:07 PM, John Christie  wrote:



Someone tried to answer this question before but I didn’t get any results from

their answer. How do you uninstall blind tunes scripts that work with Jaws and

that are in some folder on my computer that I am using. I am using Windows 7

and they can’t be uninstalled using programs and features.  I don’t know what

folder they are in. Thanks allot.

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RE: getting started with knfb reader

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Michael,

It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact 
is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out 
there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to 
decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is 
worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on 
iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale 
buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% 
off you essentially get the app for almost half price.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Hi there,

Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I 
would say, to a new user, do the following:
1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
holding the phone nice and horizontal.
2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
screen.
3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of 
the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help)  
Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.

Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. 
Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!

Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, 
you will do these things naturally, without thinking.

Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese 
> wrote:
No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
$65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
>From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
>vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
>quite a bit further in price.
It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s 
also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it 
trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light 
above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you 
put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it 
can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur 
to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results.
He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if 
lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you 
shouldn’t expect too much.
Evan

From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will 
go on sale for Christmas?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> 
wrote:
Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not hearing 
results immediately.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon 
[gor...@gordonradio.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Try holding your phone higher

from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
I've found that about six inches is good.
On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
> read product packaging.
>
> I have an 

Re: How do you uninstall scripts that work with iTunes and Jaws

[Arnold Schmidt]

When you uninstalled it, did you uninstall your personal settings, too? I 
remember that I had to uninstall everything related to jaws that it would let 
me uninstall. Those scripts go into the jfw folder somewhere, so I would hope 
uninstalling everything jaws says it can uninstall will work. If this doesn't 
work, contact the blind tunes people and see what they say. I still think these 
script writers should provide a way to uninstall them. Any other opinions on 
this subject are welcome.  

Arnold Schmidt ;

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On Dec 23, 2016, at 2:02 PM, John Christie  wrote:

Hi Arnold. I uninstalled all the components of Jaws then reinstalled Jaws but 
it didn’t work.
 
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Re: How do you uninstall Blind Tunes scripts that work with iTunes and Jaws

Arnold Schmidt Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:10:51 -0800

I remember the reply you got to your question, but I have long since deleted 
it, so I can not paraphrase the answer within it.  When I read it, it made 
sense to me, but I remember that when I wanted to uninstall them from my 
computer several years ago, the answer in that reply would not have worked for 
me at that time. I ended up having to completely uninstall jaws, then reinstall 
it. I said then that I think that when a company issues scripts for something, 
they should be required to provide a way to remove them without having to 
uninstall the program they are meant to improve. I hope you find a better way. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
 
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Someone tried to answer this question before but I didn’t get any results from 
their answer. How do you uninstall blind tunes scripts that work with Jaws and 
that are in some folder on my computer that I am using. I am using Windows 7 
and they can’t be uninstalled using programs and features.  I don’t know what 
folder they are in. Thanks allot.   
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I remember the reply you got to your question, but I have long since deleted

it, so I can not paraphrase the answer within it.  When I read it, it made 
sense to me, but I remember that when I wanted to uninstall them from my 
computer several years ago, the answer in that reply would not have worked
for 
me at that time. I ended up having to completely uninstall jaws, then
reinstall 
it. I said then that I think that when a company issues scripts for
something, 
they should be required to provide a way to remove them without having to 
uninstall the program they are meant to improve. I hope you find a better
way. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 
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Re: voicedream reader hogging a lot of space on device

[Richard Turner]

How much space was Voice Dream using before you deleted it and reinstalled it?
I have 176 items, some are files, most are books from BookShare and it is using 
only 178 megabytes.
I have several third party voices.
Are you sure it was Voice Dream using all that space?
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> Hi everyone,
> I have a lot of books within voicedream reader. My device was full, ihave 
> them synced through icloud. I reinstalled voicedream and all books are still 
> there but suddenly i have 4gb free. Why is voicedream seemingly hogging a lot 
> of unneccessary space? I am not using any third party voices so that cannot 
> be the problem.
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Re: Restoring an unresponsive phone

[Brian Albriton]

I am using windows. Actually, I have removed and reinstalled all apple
products. I'm reluctant to try connecting the phone and repeating this
process again just because I don't want to have to head for the apple
store again if I can avoid it. However, thank you so much for your
gracious response.
I will add one detail.  When a sighted person looked at the phone, it
was stuck at connect to iTunes. However, when I connected, the
computer did not see it. I suppose at one point I'll make sure I have
an appointment in place with apple and bite the pervervial bullet when
I try this again.
Thanks again as always, this  is a fine list to be a part of.
In the meantime, I'm doing my backups through icloud with my iphone 6.
On 12/17/16, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Brian,
>
> You did not tell us which version of iTunes you are using; this is to say,
> Mac or Windows.
>
> I will assume you are using iTunes for Windows.
>
> Given the scenario you describe, I would suggest that you first completely
> remove iTunes and all Apple products from your computer.  This can be done
> from within the add/remove area of Windows.
>
> Removing iTunes will not destroy your Library; however, I suggest that you
> make a copy of the Library before proceeding.
>
> After removing all apple components from your PC, reboot the system and
> install a fresh copy of iTunes.
>
> Finally, connect your phone, being certain to answer the prompt on both the
> computer and on the phone that will cause the computer to be trusted by the
> phone.
>
> Setup your phone as a new device and then Restore from a backup.
>
> By the way, were I you, I would probably place the backup files, in a
> separate, safe, area before removing iTunes.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Brian Albriton
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:04 PM
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> Subject: Restoring an unresponsive phone
>
> In  one day I had to go to the phone store twice, picking up a new phone
> each time.
> This started when I tried to restore my 5s as  a new phone from my backup.
> the phone simpply became unresponsive and unrecognized by itunes.
> I went to the store and replaced the 5s with a 6.  I returned home to
> restore the 6 as a new phone from my backup and that phone became
> unresponsive.  Consequently, when I went to the store the last time I did
> not connect the second iPhone 6 to iTunes.
>
> So my question is, how does one restart an unresponsive iPhone.  I have
> successfully restored phones from a backup in the past and not encountered
> this issue.  If anyone has thoughts on this they would be much appreciated.
> All the best, Brian
>
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Hi there,

Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I 
would say, to a new user, do the following:
1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
holding the phone nice and horizontal.
2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
screen.
3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of 
the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help)  
Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.

Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. 
Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!

Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, 
you will do these things naturally, without thinking. 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
> $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
> quite a bit further in price.
> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and 
> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting 
> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you 
> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his 
> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device 
> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is 
> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why 
> they’re not getting any results.
> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even 
> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats 
> you shouldn’t expect too much.
> Evan
>  
> From: Michael Maslo
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>  
> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this 
> will go on sale for Christmas? 
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>>  wrote:
>> Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not 
>> hearing results immediately.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
>> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>> 
>> Try holding your phone higher
>> 
>> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
>> I've found that about six inches is good.
>> On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
>> > read product packaging.
>> >
>> > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader
>> > to recognize any text.  I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD
>> > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text.
>> >
>> > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I
>> > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view.
>> >
>> > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money?
>> >
>> 
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