Facebook escalates feud with Apple over iOS privacy changes, cNet

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Facebook escalates feud with Apple over iOS privacy changes
The social network says changes in Apple's mobile software will hurt small
businesses.
Dec. 16, 2020
By Angela Lang, cNet.

Facebook is again criticizing upcoming privacy changes to Apple's iOS that
could uproot ad-tracking features used by apps. The social network on
Wednesday ran full-page newspaper ads saying the feature in iOS 14, expected
to be released early next year, will hurt small businesses. The company also
expanded on its position in a blog post, saying that Apple's new policy is
"more about profit than privacy." 

Apple announced several new privacy updates for iOS at its Worldwide
Developers Conference earlier this year, including a feature called App
Tracking Transparency that would require people to opt in to apps collecting
their data rather than needing them to opt out. The update threatens to
uproot several ad-tracking features in apps, including Facebook. In
September, Apple decided to delay the feature's rollout to 2021 so
developers could have more time to make necessary changes. 

Facebook's criticism of Apple is the latest in an ongoing public fight
between two of the world's largest tech companies. The social network, which
has also been under fire for failing to safeguard user privacy, views
Apple's changes as an attack on personalized advertising. Facebook makes
most of its money from ads, which allows it to avoid charging people a
subscription fee to use the social network.

Facebook has previously said the iOS update would mean less profit for
advertisers because of less effective tracking. In the ads on Wednesday,
Facebook says: "While limiting how personalized ads can be used does impact
larger companies like us, these changes will be devastating to small
businesses."

Apple has defended the tracking changes, saying they give users more
control. In a public letter last month, Jane Horvath, the company's privacy
chief, called out Facebook for its data collection practices and said Apple
remains "fully committed" to its app tracking transparency feature and other
privacy protections.
"Facebook executives have made clear their intent is to collect as much data
as possible across both first and third party products to develop and
monetize detailed profiles of their users, and this disregard for user
privacy continues to expand to include more of their products," Horvath
wrote. 

Dan Levy, who oversees ads and business products, said in a press call on
Wednesday that Apple was "behaving anti-competitively by using their control
of the App Store to benefit their bottom line at the expense of creators and
small businesses." If services turn away from ads and start charging a
subscription fee or in-app payments, Apple benefits because the company
makes money from fees charged to developers, Levy said. 

The impact to Facebook's business will be "less severe" because the company
has a diverse ads business with more than 10 million advertisers. Compared
with small businesses, he said, Facebook "will be fine."

"This is not just a tech fight over different pieces of technology and
policy," Levy said. "This is a set of changes and a start on what we believe
is a long strategic move from Apple towards fundamentally changing how the
free internet and advertising works for small businesses."

Steve Satterfield, a director of privacy and public policy at Facebook, also
said during the press call that it will also support Epic Games, the company
behind the popular video game Fortnite, which filed a lawsuit against Apple
earlier this year alleging the iPhone maker engaged in anti-competitive
practices by demanding up to a 30% cut of app sales made on the iPhone and
iPad. Epic Games also sued Google and Fortnite was removed from Apple's App
Store and the Google Play Store.
"We are prepared to provide relevant information in their litigation about
how Apple's policies are hurting the millions of people and businesses who
use our services," Satterfield said.
Epic didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Facebook ads criticizing Apple, which were earlier reported by
Bloomberg, appeared in newspapers including The Washington Post and The Wall
Street Journal. 

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Re: Why Does It Open in Voice Dream Reader?

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I am actually trying to do the opposite and I am not able to do it. Does 
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Why Does It Open in Voice Dream Reader?

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Hi, list.

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Re: zoom and Ipads?

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I think it's a little bit more accessible with iPhone because the screen is 
smaller.

Lyne

> Le 16 déc. 2020 à 17:17, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
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> It seems to be more accessible on the phone.
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Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

It seems to be more accessible on the phone.

From: Dan 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I just enter on the link Dan.

From: Dan 
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Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
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Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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RE: zoom and Ipads?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

Hi
I’ve done it both ways,

I copy and pasted the url for the meeting from an email and then pasted it in 
to the zoom app,

I find zoom better for accessibility on the phone or iPad

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I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
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Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?



Thanks.



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Re: zoom and Ipads?

[Andy Baracco]

I do them on the iPhone and generally just click on the lin that takes you into 
the meeting.  Sometimes there may be a code that you have to enter before you 
enter the meeting, but not usually, and if so, that code should be given to you 
in the Email invitation that you receive.  Once in the meeting, everything 
should be accessible.

Andy

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  Hi all,




  I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




  Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




  Thanks.




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zoom and Ipads?

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I have some zoom meetings I attend every
week.  I have been doing so via my laptop but am considering
using my Ipad instead.

  
Have any of you done this and if so did
you enter the meeting info or did you click on a link?  How
accessible is the zoom app?

  
Thanks.


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Re: Mac email list

[Ryan Mann]

You can probably subscribe from the web page that was posted, but just in case 
you can’t, send an email to macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Get Outlook for iOS

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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:45:03 PM
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Thanks for posting this because the list is a bit difficult to find and get 
subscribed.
Marie

From: Richard Turner
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Try navigating by buttons until you find the Ask to be added to the Mac 
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I’m not a Mac user, I was just attempting to point to the right direction since 
no one had answered the question.

I hope you can get what you need.







Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:39 AM
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Hi,

How do you subscribe to this list.

Jen



On Dec 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:



Here is the home page for the Mac Visionaries list:

MacVisionaries - Google 
Groups







Richard

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Check out my web site at: 
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Would someone please send me the link to sign up for the Apple Mac list?

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Thanks for posting this because the list is a bit difficult to find and get 
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Marie

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Subject: RE: Mac email list

Try navigating by buttons until you find the Ask to be added to the Mac 
Visionaries group.

 

I’m not a Mac user, I was just attempting to point to the right direction since 
no one had answered the question.

I hope you can get what you need.

 

 

 

Richard

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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:39 AM
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Hi,

How do you subscribe to this list.

Jen





  On Dec 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  Here is the home page for the Mac Visionaries list:

  MacVisionaries - Google Groups

   

   

   

  Richard

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flying.

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learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

  --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

   

  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

   

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I’m not a Mac user, I was just attempting to point to the right direction since 
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I hope you can get what you need.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
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Hi,
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Here is the home page for the Mac Visionaries list:
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Groups



Richard
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann M 
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Hi,
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Re: Can’t get Back to Watch Face After Updating

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Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:46 AM, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> 
> Would someone please send me the link to sign up for the Apple Watch list?
> Thanks, Teresa☺
> 
>> On 12/15/20, Joney Owen  wrote:
>> I have messed with this thing all day long. Then save a reset. Then save a
>> hard reset. End it was this easy. Definitely should’ve looked here first.
>> Thanks for the info. :-) First time I’ve ever had a problem with an update
>> with the watch.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Shirley Baker 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good instructions. Just wish I’d had them before updating. Next time I’ll
>>> check my email before updating anything to see if there’s anything
>>> different.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:09 PM, blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had this issue as well and it appears that the solution is to do a 2
 finger swipe up on your watch. You may have to do it several times to get
 it to work. Once you hear Voice Over say something like first row simply
 flick right and you should land on an ok button which when you double tap
 on it will dismiss the what's new screen.
 
 I hope that his helps.
 
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RE: Can’t get Back to Watch Face After Updating

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Teresa 
Christian
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t get Back to Watch Face After Updating

Would someone please send me the link to sign up for the Apple Watch list?
Thanks, Teresa☺

On 12/15/20, Joney Owen  wrote:
> I have messed with this thing all day long. Then save a reset. Then 
> save a hard reset. End it was this easy. Definitely should’ve looked here 
> first.
> Thanks for the info. :-) First time I’ve ever had a problem with an 
> update with the watch.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Shirley Baker 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good instructions. Just wish I’d had them before updating. Next time 
>> I’ll check my email before updating anything to see if there’s 
>> anything different.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:09 PM, blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I had this issue as well and it appears that the solution is to do 
>>> a 2 finger swipe up on your watch. You may have to do it several 
>>> times to get it to work. Once you hear Voice Over say something like 
>>> first row simply flick right and you should land on an ok button 
>>> which when you double tap on it will dismiss the what's new screen.
>>>
>>> I hope that his helps.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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Re: Can’t get Back to Watch Face After Updating

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Would someone please send me the link to sign up for the Apple Watch list?
Thanks, Teresa☺

On 12/15/20, Joney Owen  wrote:
> I have messed with this thing all day long. Then save a reset. Then save a
> hard reset. End it was this easy. Definitely should’ve looked here first.
> Thanks for the info. :-) First time I’ve ever had a problem with an update
> with the watch.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Shirley Baker 
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>> Good instructions. Just wish I’d had them before updating. Next time I’ll
>> check my email before updating anything to see if there’s anything
>> different.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:09 PM, blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> I had this issue as well and it appears that the solution is to do a 2
>>> finger swipe up on your watch. You may have to do it several times to get
>>> it to work. Once you hear Voice Over say something like first row simply
>>> flick right and you should land on an ok button which when you double tap
>>> on it will dismiss the what's new screen.
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>>> I hope that his helps.
>>>
>>> Scott
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