Re: Visible Wireless for those who are interested

[Joseph Hudson]

Well for now I'm good with what I got. Both of my phones are unlocked. Android 
was purchased at Best Buy, and my iPhone was bought at Apple just as I 
discussed on the main board this afternoon.

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 12:26 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Visible might be a good fit for you as long as your phone is unlocked. You 
> can even activate through E-sim if you want. And if you use my code 3qh7Qv, 
> you only pay $5. Once you become a customer, you'll get your own code that 
> you can give out for the $5 months for both you and the new person signing 
> up. E-sim will have you up and running in about 5 minutes. E-sim started 
> being offered with the 10S iPhone models which includes the SE20.
> 
> On 9/1/2021 12:15 AM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
>> Oh cool, not a bad deal. I pay 75 right now with consumer cellular and that 
>> gives me 15 gigs of data which I'm pretty well happy with from my work phone 
>> and my iPhone.
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with it. 
>>> It's owned by Verizon, so you get the Verizon 4GLTE network along with 
>>> access to the 5G network on supported phones. It's $40 per month, but goes 
>>> down to $25 once you join a party with more than four people which is easy 
>>> to do since anyone can   join a party. I already have one you can 
>>> instantly join and get the $25 price which includes taxes. But the cool 
>>> thing about Visible is the referral codes. My referral code is 3qh7Qv. When 
>>> using this code you'll get your first month for $5 which is all you will 
>>> pay since the sim card is free. The visible app is fully accessible and you 
>>> can bring your unlocked iPhone or purchase one from them. I'm getting 85 
>>> megs down here in Dallas on the LTE network. So I just wanted to pass this 
>>> along for anyone who might want to be on Verizon or cut some serious costs 
>>> from what you might be paying for your current service.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Visible Wireless for those who are interested

[Gordon]

Visible might be a good fit for you as long as your phone is unlocked. 
You can even activate through E-sim if you want. And if you use my code 
3qh7Qv, you only pay $5. Once you become a customer, you'll get your own 
code that you can give out for the $5 months for both you and the new 
person signing up. E-sim will have you up and running in about 5 
minutes. E-sim started being offered with the 10S iPhone models which 
includes the SE20.


On 9/1/2021 12:15 AM, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Oh cool, not a bad deal. I pay 75 right now with consumer cellular and that 
gives me 15 gigs of data which I'm pretty well happy with from my work phone 
and my iPhone.


On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Gordon  wrote:

I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with it. It's 
owned by Verizon, so you get the Verizon 4GLTE network along with access to the 
5G network on supported phones. It's $40 per month, but goes down to $25 once 
you join a party with more than four people which is easy to do since anyone 
can   join a party. I already have one you can instantly join and get the 
$25 price which includes taxes. But the cool thing about Visible is the 
referral codes. My referral code is 3qh7Qv. When using this code you'll get 
your first month for $5 which is all you will pay since the sim card is free. 
The visible app is fully accessible and you can bring your unlocked iPhone or 
purchase one from them. I'm getting 85 megs down here in Dallas on the LTE 
network. So I just wanted to pass this along for anyone who might want to be on 
Verizon or cut some serious costs from what you might be paying for your 
current service.


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Re: Visible Wireless for those who are interested

[Joseph Hudson]

Oh cool, not a bad deal. I pay 75 right now with consumer cellular and that 
gives me 15 gigs of data which I'm pretty well happy with from my work phone 
and my iPhone.

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with it. 
> It's owned by Verizon, so you get the Verizon 4GLTE network along with access 
> to the 5G network on supported phones. It's $40 per month, but goes down to 
> $25 once you join a party with more than four people which is easy to do 
> since anyone can   join a party. I already have one you can instantly 
> join and get the $25 price which includes taxes. But the cool thing about 
> Visible is the referral codes. My referral code is 3qh7Qv. When using this 
> code you'll get your first month for $5 which is all you will pay since the 
> sim card is free. The visible app is fully accessible and you can bring your 
> unlocked iPhone or purchase one from them. I'm getting 85 megs down here in 
> Dallas on the LTE network. So I just wanted to pass this along for anyone who 
> might want to be on Verizon or cut some serious costs from what you might be 
> paying for your current service.
> 
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How to get back Icloud drive

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi friends,

I accidentally signed out of Icloud on my Windows 10 home computer.
Consequently, the Icloud drive also disappeared from my user folder.
I reinitiated the Icloud but the drive did not return.  How do I get
it back?  Please could someone help please?  Thank you.

Ketan

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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Mary Otten]

Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:11 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> Answer and end call.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 9:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece
>  
> OK. But do you know what that button on the back of the boom mic at the base 
> is?
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just turn it on.  It will be in available things to pair.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece
>  
> Interesting. I have the buttons as Dennis described. There’s also a button on 
> I guess I would call it the boom mic. It’s not on the mic exactly. It’s a 
> push button. I had a Plantronics that had a similar button. And as I recall, 
> that’s what you used to activate Siri. So I have four buttons going down the 
> back of the thing that fits over your ear, and then there is a push button 
> that is on the backside exactly opposite the ear thing that goes into your 
> ear, if that makes any sense. This button is on when I guess you could call 
> the base and if you run your finger out from there if you can extend down the 
> boom mic. That button I don’t know what it does yet. I haven’t tried pairing 
> the device. I’m not sure actually how to do that yet. Maybe if I turn it on 
> and open my Bluetooth, the iPhone will just see it and offer to pair
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Dennis and Mary,
> You do not have the same model as I do.
> Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
> of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the 
> microphone that are in the same order as what you describe.
> And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.
> This has a magnetic connection for the charger.
> So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?
> Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.
> I will check if there is a more detailed model number.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
>  That is right.
> 
>  
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
> order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a 
> slide switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it 
> must be that mute button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
> they are
> 1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards 
> your head is off. 
> below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 
> below the volume down is mute.
> 
>  
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
> richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
> from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is 
> that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right 
> now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I 
> presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me 
> to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere 
> that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make 
> too much sense, so probably not remembering correctly.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Bluetooth earpiece

[Dennis Long]

Answer and end call.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece

 

OK. But do you know what that button on the back of the boom mic at the base is?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Just turn it on.  It will be in available things to pair.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece

 

Interesting. I have the buttons as Dennis described. There’s also a button on I 
guess I would call it the boom mic. It’s not on the mic exactly. It’s a push 
button. I had a Plantronics that had a similar button. And as I recall, that’s 
what you used to activate Siri. So I have four buttons going down the back of 
the thing that fits over your ear, and then there is a push button that is on 
the backside exactly opposite the ear thing that goes into your ear, if that 
makes any sense. This button is on when I guess you could call the base and if 
you run your finger out from there if you can extend down the boom mic. That 
button I don’t know what it does yet. I haven’t tried pairing the device. I’m 
not sure actually how to do that yet. Maybe if I turn it on and open my 
Bluetooth, the iPhone will just see it and offer to pair

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Dennis and Mary, 

You do not have the same model as I do.

Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the microphone 
that are in the same order as what you describe.

And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.

This has a magnetic connection for the charger.

So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?

Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.

I will check if there is a more detailed model number.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 






On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 That is right.

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone SE 






On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a slide 
switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it must be 
that mute button.

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
they are 

1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards your 
head is off. 

below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 

below the volume down is mute.

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone SE 






On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten mailto:maryot...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is that 
are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right now. I 
know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I presume the 
other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me to figure that 
out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere that the mute button 
also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so 
probably not remembering correctly.
Mary


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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Mary Otten]

OK. But do you know what that button on the back of the boom mic at the base is?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just turn it on.  It will be in available things to pair.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece
>  
> Interesting. I have the buttons as Dennis described. There’s also a button on 
> I guess I would call it the boom mic. It’s not on the mic exactly. It’s a 
> push button. I had a Plantronics that had a similar button. And as I recall, 
> that’s what you used to activate Siri. So I have four buttons going down the 
> back of the thing that fits over your ear, and then there is a push button 
> that is on the backside exactly opposite the ear thing that goes into your 
> ear, if that makes any sense. This button is on when I guess you could call 
> the base and if you run your finger out from there if you can extend down the 
> boom mic. That button I don’t know what it does yet. I haven’t tried pairing 
> the device. I’m not sure actually how to do that yet. Maybe if I turn it on 
> and open my Bluetooth, the iPhone will just see it and offer to pair
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Dennis and Mary,
> You do not have the same model as I do.
> Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
> of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the 
> microphone that are in the same order as what you describe.
> And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.
> This has a magnetic connection for the charger.
> So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?
> Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.
> I will check if there is a more detailed model number.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
>  That is right.
> 
>  
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
> order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a 
> slide switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it 
> must be that mute button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
> they are
> 1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards 
> your head is off. 
> below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 
> below the volume down is mute.
> 
>  
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
> richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
> from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is 
> that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right 
> now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I 
> presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me 
> to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere 
> that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make 
> too much sense, so probably not remembering correctly.
> Mary
> 
> 
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RE: Bluetooth earpiece

[Dennis Long]

Just turn it on.  It will be in available things to pair.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth earpiece

 

Interesting. I have the buttons as Dennis described. There’s also a button on I 
guess I would call it the boom mic. It’s not on the mic exactly. It’s a push 
button. I had a Plantronics that had a similar button. And as I recall, that’s 
what you used to activate Siri. So I have four buttons going down the back of 
the thing that fits over your ear, and then there is a push button that is on 
the backside exactly opposite the ear thing that goes into your ear, if that 
makes any sense. This button is on when I guess you could call the base and if 
you run your finger out from there if you can extend down the boom mic. That 
button I don’t know what it does yet. I haven’t tried pairing the device. I’m 
not sure actually how to do that yet. Maybe if I turn it on and open my 
Bluetooth, the iPhone will just see it and offer to pair

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Dennis and Mary, 

You do not have the same model as I do.

Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the microphone 
that are in the same order as what you describe.

And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.

This has a magnetic connection for the charger.

So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?

Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.

I will check if there is a more detailed model number.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 





On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 That is right.

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone SE 





On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a slide 
switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it must be 
that mute button.

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
they are 

1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards your 
head is off. 

below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 

below the volume down is mute.

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone SE 





On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten mailto:maryot...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is that 
are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right now. I 
know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I presume the 
other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me to figure that 
out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere that the mute button 
also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so 
probably not remembering correctly.
Mary


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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Mary Otten]

Interesting. I have the buttons as Dennis described. There’s also a button on I 
guess I would call it the boom mic. It’s not on the mic exactly. It’s a push 
button. I had a Plantronics that had a similar button. And as I recall, that’s 
what you used to activate Siri. So I have four buttons going down the back of 
the thing that fits over your ear, and then there is a push button that is on 
the backside exactly opposite the ear thing that goes into your ear, if that 
makes any sense. This button is on when I guess you could call the base and if 
you run your finger out from there if you can extend down the boom mic. That 
button I don’t know what it does yet. I haven’t tried pairing the device. I’m 
not sure actually how to do that yet. Maybe if I turn it on and open my 
Bluetooth, the iPhone will just see it and offer to pair

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Dennis and Mary,
> You do not have the same model as I do.
> Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
> of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the 
> microphone that are in the same order as what you describe.
> And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.
> This has a magnetic connection for the charger.
> So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?
> Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.
> I will check if there is a more detailed model number.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>> 
>>  That is right.
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, 
>>> the order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being 
>>> a slide switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess 
>>> it must be that mute button.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
 
 
 
 Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and 
 Richard they are
 1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards 
 your head is off. 
 below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume 
 down. 
 below the volume down is mute.
 
 
 Dennis Long
 Sent from my iPhone SE 
 
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece 
> that richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I 
> bought one from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those 
> buttons is that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is 
> charging right now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume 
> buttons and I presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and 
> error will allow me to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. 
> Did I read somewhere that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? 
> That doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so probably not remembering 
> correctly.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Gordon]

I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with 
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just wanted to pass this along for anyone who might want to be on 
Verizon or cut some serious costs from what you might be paying for your 
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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Richard Turner]

Hi Dennis and Mary,
You do not have the same model as I do.
Mine has no slide switch. The power on/off is right on the hinge if you will, 
of the earpiece and boom microphone. There are three buttons on the microphone 
that are in the same order as what you describe.
And oddly enough, the mute button when held is for Siri.
This has a magnetic connection for the charger.
So, it could be we have the same brand, but they made some slight change?
Again, this is the GEESTRAC HSP-B3.
I will check if there is a more detailed model number.



Richard
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Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:

 That is right.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE

On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a slide 
switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it must be 
that mute button.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:



Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
they are
1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards your 
head is off.
below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down.
below the volume down is mute.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE

On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is that 
are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right now. I 
know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I presume the 
other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me to figure that 
out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere that the mute button 
also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so 
probably not remembering correctly.
Mary


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RE: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple Music

[llumpkin]

Will this be a separate app and separate library? Can I get it on my PC?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
improve Apple Music

 

 

The impression I have is no. It’s part of Apple music. 

 

SentApple is competing with other music services Apple is competing with other 
music services, and this is a move to make them more attractive. Making you pay 
for it wouldn’t exactly do that.

 from my iPhone





On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:21 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com 
  wrote:



Will we have to subscribe to and pay for this?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
improve Apple Music

 

Absolutely! Regular streaming services get classical music very very wrong. 
Prime phonic did a great job, although it could’ve been more accessible. I’m 
hoping that with the Apple acquisition of prime phonic, they will fix the 
accessibility shortcomings and still give us great access in a way that we can 
actually make efficient use of the service. I have high hopes

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

The article states fairly clearly why they are going to offer a dedicated app 
for classical music fans and it sounds to me that you can probably still listen 
to classical music via the Music app, but if you are a true classical music 
connoisseur, you know where the Music app falls short and where this service 
and the new app will shine, it says this:

 

Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made some 
improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still was 
frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic acquisition, 
Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability to search by 
composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of classical music 
metadata, plus new features and benefits.”

 

I bet you that classical music lovers will rejoice when the dedicated app will 
be available especially if it is as good as Apple claims it will be and this is 
not so different from when Apple moved audio books from the music app to the 
Books app.

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: August 30, 2021 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
improve Apple Music

 

I guess I’m curious why, at least according to the article, Apple is going to 
be releasing a separate app for classical music? Why is this even necessary? 
Why can’t it be incorporated into Apple Music? I am definitely going to be 
writing to Apple about this. Thanks for the link to the article, it was very 
interesting.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.







On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



This is awesome news in my opinion. As long as Apple doesn’t screw it up, this 
could be what classical music fans who don’t want to pay for the Primephonic 
subscription, which I did for two years until I couldn’t justify it anymore, 
Have been hoping for.

 

Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple 
Music

Macworld.com  /  Roman Loyola







<~WRD.jpg>

Apple on Monday announced that it has acquired Primephonic, a streaming media 
startup with a focus on classical music. In a press release 

 , Apple says that users will be able to access Primephonic playlists and 
exclusive audio content, and that a “dedicated experience with the best 
features of Primephonic” will eventually be available.

Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made some 
improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still was 
frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic acquisition, 
Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability to search by 
composer and repertoire, as well 

Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

The impression I have is no. It’s part of Apple music. 

SentApple is competing with other music services Apple is competing with other 
music services, and this is a move to make them more attractive. Making you pay 
for it wouldn’t exactly do that.
 from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:21 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Will we have to subscribe to and pay for this?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
> improve Apple Music
>  
> Absolutely! Regular streaming services get classical music very very wrong. 
> Prime phonic did a great job, although it could’ve been more accessible. I’m 
> hoping that with the Apple acquisition of prime phonic, they will fix the 
> accessibility shortcomings and still give us great access in a way that we 
> can actually make efficient use of the service. I have high hopes
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The article states fairly clearly why they are going to offer a dedicated app 
> for classical music fans and it sounds to me that you can probably still 
> listen to classical music via the Music app, but if you are a true classical 
> music connoisseur, you know where the Music app falls short and where this 
> service and the new app will shine, it says this:
>  
> Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
> system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made 
> some improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still 
> was frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic 
> acquisition, Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability 
> to search by composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of 
> classical music metadata, plus new features and benefits.”
>  
> I bet you that classical music lovers will rejoice when the dedicated app 
> will be available especially if it is as good as Apple claims it will be and 
> this is not so different from when Apple moved audio books from the music app 
> to the Books app.
> .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: August 30, 2021 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
> improve Apple Music
>  
> I guess I’m curious why, at least according to the article, Apple is going to 
> be releasing a separate app for classical music? Why is this even necessary? 
> Why can’t it be incorporated into Apple Music? I am definitely going to be 
> writing to Apple about this. Thanks for the link to the article, it was very 
> interesting.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is awesome news in my opinion. As long as Apple doesn’t screw it up, 
> this could be what classical music fans who don’t want to pay for the 
> Primephonic subscription, which I did for two years until I couldn’t justify 
> it anymore, Have been hoping for.
>  
> Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple 
> Music
> Macworld.com  /  Roman Loyola
> 
> 
> 
> <~WRD.jpg>
> Apple on Monday announced that it has acquired Primephonic, a streaming media 
> startup with a focus on classical music. In a press release, Apple says that 
> users will be able to access Primephonic playlists and exclusive audio 
> content, and that a “dedicated experience with the best features of 
> Primephonic” will eventually be available.
> 
> Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
> system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made 
> some improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still 
> was frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic 
> acquisition, Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability 
> to search by composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of 
> classical music metadata, plus new features and benefits.”
> 
> <~WRD.jpg>
> Primephonic started three years ago to bring a better streaming experience 
> for classical music fans.
> 
> A note on the Primephonic website seems to indicate that the three-year-old 
> company saw the acquisition as necessary for it to achieve its goals. “As a 
> classical-only startup, we can not [sic] reach the majority of global 
> classical listeners, especially those that listen to many other music genres 
> as well,” said the company. “We therefore concluded that in order to achieve 
> our mission, we need to partner with a leading streaming service that 
> encompasses all music genres and also shares our love for 

RE: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple Music

[llumpkin]

Will we have to subscribe to and pay for this?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
improve Apple Music

 

Absolutely! Regular streaming services get classical music very very wrong. 
Prime phonic did a great job, although it could’ve been more accessible. I’m 
hoping that with the Apple acquisition of prime phonic, they will fix the 
accessibility shortcomings and still give us great access in a way that we can 
actually make efficient use of the service. I have high hopes

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

The article states fairly clearly why they are going to offer a dedicated app 
for classical music fans and it sounds to me that you can probably still listen 
to classical music via the Music app, but if you are a true classical music 
connoisseur, you know where the Music app falls short and where this service 
and the new app will shine, it says this:

 

Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made some 
improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still was 
frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic acquisition, 
Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability to search by 
composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of classical music 
metadata, plus new features and benefits.”

 

I bet you that classical music lovers will rejoice when the dedicated app will 
be available especially if it is as good as Apple claims it will be and this is 
not so different from when Apple moved audio books from the music app to the 
Books app.

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: August 30, 2021 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
improve Apple Music

 

I guess I’m curious why, at least according to the article, Apple is going to 
be releasing a separate app for classical music? Why is this even necessary? 
Why can’t it be incorporated into Apple Music? I am definitely going to be 
writing to Apple about this. Thanks for the link to the article, it was very 
interesting.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.






On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:



This is awesome news in my opinion. As long as Apple doesn’t screw it up, this 
could be what classical music fans who don’t want to pay for the Primephonic 
subscription, which I did for two years until I couldn’t justify it anymore, 
Have been hoping for.

 

Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple 
Music

Macworld.com  /  Roman Loyola








Apple on Monday announced that it has acquired Primephonic, a streaming media 
startup with a focus on classical music. In a press release 

 , Apple says that users will be able to access Primephonic playlists and 
exclusive audio content, and that a “dedicated experience with the best 
features of Primephonic” will eventually be available.

Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made some 
improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still was 
frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic acquisition, 
Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability to search by 
composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of classical music 
metadata, plus new features and benefits.”



Primephonic started three years ago to bring a better streaming experience for 
classical music fans.

A note on the Primephonic 

  website seems to indicate that the three-year-old company saw the acquisition 
as necessary for it to achieve its goals. “As a classical-only startup, we can 
not [sic] reach the majority of global classical listeners, especially those 
that listen to many other music genres as well,” said the company. “We 
therefore concluded that in order to achieve our mission, we need to partner 
with a leading streaming service that encompasses all music genres and also 
shares our love for classical music.”

Primephonic users can continue to use 

Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Dennis Long]

That is right.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE 

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
> order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a 
> slide switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it 
> must be that mute button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
>> they are
>> 1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards 
>> your head is off. 
>> below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 
>> below the volume down is mute.
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 
>> 
 On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
>>> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece 
>>> that richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I 
>>> bought one from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those 
>>> buttons is that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is 
>>> charging right now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume 
>>> buttons and I presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and 
>>> error will allow me to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. 
>>> Did I read somewhere that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? That 
>>> doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so probably not remembering correctly.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I have the same one. That was going to be my guess, the 
order you named based on what I saw and the fact that the top one being a slide 
switch almost had to be on and off. Which one invokes Siri? I guess it must be 
that mute button.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
> they are
> 1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards 
> your head is off. 
> below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 
> below the volume down is mute.
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
>> richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
>> from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is 
>> that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right 
>> now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I 
>> presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me 
>> to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere 
>> that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make 
>> too much sense, so probably not remembering correctly.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth earpiece

[Dennis Long]

Hey Mary i hope this helps.Assuming you have the same one as me and Richard 
they are
1 all the way at the top is power is a slide switch. Down is on up towards your 
head is off. 
below that ar 2 buttons 1 at the top is volume up below that is volume down. 
below the volume down is mute.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE 

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
> richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
> from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is 
> that are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right 
> now. I know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I 
> presume the other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me 
> to figure that out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere 
> that the mute button also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make 
> too much sense, so probably not remembering correctly.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Bluetooth earpiece

[Mary Otten]

Recently, there was discussion on this list about a Bluetooth earpiece that 
richard and Dennis, and possibly others, have bought recently. I bought one 
from Amazon which came today. I wonder what the order of those buttons is that 
are on the ear peace. There are four of them. Mine is charging right now. I 
know you get a mute button and I believe two volume buttons and I presume the 
other one is on and off. I suppose trial and error will allow me to figure that 
out but I thought I would ask anyway. Did I read somewhere that the mute button 
also acts as a Siri button? That doesn’t seem to make too much sense, so 
probably not remembering correctly.
Mary


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Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

Absolutely! Regular streaming services get classical music very very wrong. 
Prime phonic did a great job, although it could’ve been more accessible. I’m 
hoping that with the Apple acquisition of prime phonic, they will fix the 
accessibility shortcomings and still give us great access in a way that we can 
actually make efficient use of the service. I have high hopes


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The article states fairly clearly why they are going to offer a dedicated app 
> for classical music fans and it sounds to me that you can probably still 
> listen to classical music via the Music app, but if you are a true classical 
> music connoisseur, you know where the Music app falls short and where this 
> service and the new app will shine, it says this:
>  
> Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
> system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made 
> some improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still 
> was frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic 
> acquisition, Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability 
> to search by composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of 
> classical music metadata, plus new features and benefits.”
>  
> I bet you that classical music lovers will rejoice when the dedicated app 
> will be available especially if it is as good as Apple claims it will be and 
> this is not so different from when Apple moved audio books from the music app 
> to the Books app.
> .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: August 30, 2021 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to 
> improve Apple Music
>  
> I guess I’m curious why, at least according to the article, Apple is going to 
> be releasing a separate app for classical music? Why is this even necessary? 
> Why can’t it be incorporated into Apple Music? I am definitely going to be 
> writing to Apple about this. Thanks for the link to the article, it was very 
> interesting.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
> 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is awesome news in my opinion. As long as Apple doesn’t screw it up, 
> this could be what classical music fans who don’t want to pay for the 
> Primephonic subscription, which I did for two years until I couldn’t justify 
> it anymore, Have been hoping for.
>  
> Apple acquires Primephonic classical music streaming service to improve Apple 
> Music
> Macworld.com  /  Roman Loyola
> 
> 
> 
> Apple on Monday announced that it has acquired Primephonic, a streaming media 
> startup with a focus on classical music. In a press release, Apple says that 
> users will be able to access Primephonic playlists and exclusive audio 
> content, and that a “dedicated experience with the best features of 
> Primephonic” will eventually be available.
> 
> Digital music can be challenging to manage on streaming services—the metadata 
> system for music files was created with popular music in mind. Apple made 
> some improvements years ago when Apple Music was called iTunes, but it still 
> was frustrating for classical music listeners. With the Primephonic 
> acquisition, Apple says it can provide a better experience, with the ability 
> to search by composer and repertoire, as well as “detailed displays of 
> classical music metadata, plus new features and benefits.”
> 
> 
> Primephonic started three years ago to bring a better streaming experience 
> for classical music fans.
> 
> A note on the Primephonic website seems to indicate that the three-year-old 
> company saw the acquisition as necessary for it to achieve its goals. “As a 
> classical-only startup, we can not [sic] reach the majority of global 
> classical listeners, especially those that listen to many other music genres 
> as well,” said the company. “We therefore concluded that in order to achieve 
> our mission, we need to partner with a leading streaming service that 
> encompasses all music genres and also shares our love for classical music.”
> 
> Primephonic users can continue to use the service for free until it is shut 
> down on September 7, and they can get six months of Apple Music for free. 
> Apple will release a dedicated app for classical music next year that will 
> have features that Primephonic are familiar with, plus “more added features.” 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://www.macworld.com/article/354463/apple-aquires-primephonic-classical-music-streaming-service.html
>  
> 
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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes that's what I thought,

But the air 4 doesn't have an actual home button that we know.

It has a power button with touch id built in.

Which is what I'm thinking it might be 
Or if it's not a new product then one of the older 10.5 inch iPad pro 
Which wont have a touch button.

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Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2021 12:06 am
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Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Strange. My ipad 8th ;neraton has a home button and looks almost like my 
original ipad years ago.
 I think I cabled up mine to itunes and got it set up that way but needed no 
assistance.


-Original Message-
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Cramer
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:10 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

[Lelia Struve]

Your right, I'm on clubhouse right now on my iPhone SE220 and it works. It 
didn't work Sunday but it does now yay! Glad I'm wrong.  

Lelia 

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> On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It works on the SE 2020 and 11, 12, and perhaps even the 10's but I'm not 
> sure of that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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> -Original Message-
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> Struve
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 7:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse
> 
> Hi, I'm not sure it works on all iPhones. I have an SE and as of two days 
> ago, it didn't work on mine.   I had a theory that the spatial audio only 
> worked on iPhones 11 and above but I'm not sure.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> So Clubhouse pushed out an update earlier for IOS that offers spacial audio 
>> support. It doesn't work on all blue tooth head sets, but it works well on 
>> most wired headsets I tried. If you don't like it, you can turn it off in 
>> your profile area. It sounds like you're all sitting at a big conference 
>> table and you hear people around you. To check this out, update to the 
>> latest version of clubhouse that came out this afternoon.
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[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I was trying to clear out a draft message and accidentally sent it. Sorry about 
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Best,
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Re: iCloud space

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone turned off 
> when charging?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>  
> Also Kay,
> If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
> iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iCloud space
>  
> Richard,
> Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>  
> First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
> that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
>  
> You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your 
> name.
>  
> Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
> Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
>  
> If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
> to just leave it on the phone, do that.
> I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
> already.
>  
> Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> 
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iCloud space
>  
> Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
> decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to 
> the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, 
> so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered 
> that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and 
> unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there 
> is not enough space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone 
> and I should go to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't 
> even want this phone to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am 
> going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off 
> my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this 
> phone, it shall be powered off before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem? 
>  Thanks for any help.
> 
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> Bob Proctor
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Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

[Robert Doc Wright]

It works in Club deck
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Spacial audio support on clubhouse


It works on the SE 2020 and 11, 12, and perhaps even the 10's but I'm not 
sure of that.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve

Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

Hi, I'm not sure it works on all iPhones. I have an SE and as of two days 
ago, it didn't work on mine.   I had a theory that the spatial audio only 
worked on iPhones 11 and above but I'm not sure.


Lelia

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Gordon  wrote:

So Clubhouse pushed out an update earlier for IOS that offers spacial 
audio support. It doesn't work on all blue tooth head sets, but it works 
well on most wired headsets I tried. If you don't like it, you can turn it 
off in your profile area. It sounds like you're all sitting at a big 
conference table and you hear people around you. To check this out, update 
to the latest version of clubhouse that came out this afternoon.


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RE: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

[Richard Turner]

It works on the SE 2020 and 11, 12, and perhaps even the 10's but I'm not sure 
of that. 



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

Hi, I'm not sure it works on all iPhones. I have an SE and as of two days ago, 
it didn't work on mine.   I had a theory that the spatial audio only worked on 
iPhones 11 and above but I'm not sure.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> So Clubhouse pushed out an update earlier for IOS that offers spacial audio 
> support. It doesn't work on all blue tooth head sets, but it works well on 
> most wired headsets I tried. If you don't like it, you can turn it off in 
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Re: Spacial audio support on clubhouse

[Lelia Struve]

Hi, I'm not sure it works on all iPhones. I have an SE and as of two days ago, 
it didn't work on mine.   I had a theory that the spatial audio only worked on 
iPhones 11 and above but I'm not sure.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> So Clubhouse pushed out an update earlier for IOS that offers spacial audio 
> support. It doesn't work on all blue tooth head sets, but it works well on 
> most wired headsets I tried. If you don't like it, you can turn it off in 
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Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Richard Turner]

Apparently this was not a new iPad and so someone had disabled the 
accessibility shortcut or when he pressed the power button/ side switch/top 
switch, whatever it is on that unit, three times nothing happens.
Hence the iTunes solution which can be done independent of any sighted 
assistance.



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On Aug 31, 2021, at 1:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Well that’s pretty interesting if it’s an iPad 8 gen and you can’t enable vo 
without sighted assistance.

No Ipad I’ve own have I ever needed sighted assistance to set it up  and I 
would think the same here.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 4:11 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

>From Tom's description; using a computer with iTunes will be the only way to 
>set it up without sighted assistance.

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
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Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[llumpkin]

Strange. My ipad 8th ;neraton has a home button and looks almost like my 
original ipad years ago.
 I think I cabled up mine to itunes and got it set up that way but needed no 
assistance.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:10 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: Spatial audio?

[Fanus Buys]

Thank you very much.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Spatial audio?

 

IF you have an Apple Music subscription, if you go to search, there is a button 
for Spatial audio and all things in there have it.

Some are Fearless, Taylor’s version by Taylor Swift

All Things Must Pass, 50th Anniversary Edition by George Harrison

A bunch of Billie Eilish songs.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Spatial audio?

 

I use Beats Flex headphones.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

 

It is more whether your headphone support it. 

What headphones do you have?

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what it 
sounds like.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

 

yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 

 

I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.

 

 

Richard

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On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:

Hi all, so I know that you can get spatial audio on an iPhone 11 and up but 
can you get it with the iPhone SE220?
Thanks 

Lelia 

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well that’s pretty interesting if it’s an iPad 8 gen and you can’t enable vo 
without sighted assistance.

No Ipad I’ve own have I ever needed sighted assistance to set it up  and I 
would think the same here.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 4:11 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

>From Tom's description; using a computer with iTunes will be the only way to 
>set it up without sighted assistance.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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Re: Spatial audio?

[Robert Doc Wright]

I can hear spacial audio on Club house on my Bose frames and on my Logitech 
H800.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:11 PM
  Subject: RE: Spatial audio?


  Really?

   

  I thought this was an apple only thing at the moment,

   

  But hey that’s great if you can use it with any headphoens.

   

  I’ll have to try it with my frames.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 3:46 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Spatial audio?

   

  Any headphone supports it, but you have to change it from auto detect to 
Always on if you don't have headphones like Apple's latest and greatest and 
maybe only those support things like where the audio changes depending on how 
you turn your head, but when I listened to the intro and some of the tracks 
when it was first introduced I used just my regular wired V-Mota headset

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: August 30, 2021 3:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

   

  It is more whether your headphone support it. 

  What headphones do you have?

   

   

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- Jane Wagner 



   

   

   

   

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what 
it sounds like.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

 

yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 

 

I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com

 





On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:

  Hi all, so I know that you can get spatial audio on an iPhone 11 and up 
but can you get it with the iPhone SE220?
  Thanks 

  Lelia 

  Sent from my iPhone

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