RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
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I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles 

RE: blood pressure monitors.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Better high blood pressure than no blood pressure! I am sure I recently read 
somewhere that Zombies are in fact real and are voting for the Democrats in 
great numbers 藍 or was it for the Republicans 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.



Hey Sieghard,

You better start using the Qardio  Arm as an old goat like you might start 
having high blood pressure. I want to keep you around so I have someone to 
tease that is my age. 藍

Mr. Ed





-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:00 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.



It is accessible, many people on the list have it, we also have one and while I 
don't use it much it works well.





-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.



Hi, Sieghard.

I saw Qardio Arm on Amazon for $112.

Can I download Qardio Arm's app from the AppStore?

How accessible is the app?

Any more info about this hardware/software is much appreciated.

Thanks!



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 5:11 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.



The Qardio Arm, please note the spelling.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 8:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: blood pressure monitors.



please can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor and app if needed.  
thanks in advance, Janet



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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Gary,



I received the new Apple TV 4K today and while I didn't try to connect it yet 
directly to my Arc, I did try to connect my old Apple TV HD (4th generation) to 
my Sonos Amp. Here is what I got when I opened the Sonos app, selected Bedroom 
(where my Sonos Amp is located) and then I selected "TV":



We detected an issue with your HDMI connection. We'll help you fix it.

Fix it button

Close button

So I double tapped on "Fix It" and the following screen came up:

Let's get your Sonos Amp connected to your TV

Continue button

I tapped on Continue and the next screen came up:

Turn on your TV, then plug the HDMI cable into the ARC port. Then I had the 
following 3 options:

Connected to ARC button

Can't find ARC button

Close button

So I tapped on "Connected to ARC" and after it said "connecting" for a few 
seconds, the next message came up:

HDMI ARC not detected. Make sure the HDMI cable is connected to the ARC port 
and your TV is on.

Try Again button

Close button

No ARC port? You need to use an optical audio adapter.



So apparently connecting an Apple TV directly to a Sonos device via HDMI simply 
won't work. One could argue that this is silly, but then again let's remember 
how extremely specialized this is to the visually impaired/blind customer base 
since I just can't see any sighted person at all wanting to do this. If they 
did and it actually worked they would have to use Voiceover in order to 
navigate their Apple TV and I really can't imagine a sighted person wanting to 
do this. In any case, all the music services are pretty much available directly 
through the Sonos app and when it comes to "listening" to TV audio I don't have 
to point out how pointless that would seem to sighted people.



If you did have or buy a Sonos Amp then you would have an optical audio input 
available and I assume if you had an "optical audio converter" as the Sonos app 
suggests, you would probably be successful in getting audio from the Apple TV 
into your Sonos system. I don't want it bad enough to go out there and buy an 
optical audio adapter to try it, but in any case, since the Sonos Beam only has 
an HDMI input that really wouldn't be an option.
I may at some point unplug the new Apple TV from my LG OLED TV and plug it 
directly into the Arc to see if I get the same message. But I am pretty sure I 
would and I don't have a lot of time until at least the beginning of the new 
year so it won't be any time soon. I guess if you really wanted to listen to 
Netflix, Disney, Prime Video or other TV channels on your Sonos Beam then you 
could always splay the content on your iPhone and then send it to the Beam via 
Airplay.





Best regards and good luck,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.



I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.



The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.



I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.



When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.



Any suggestions?





Thanks





Gary



On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
> inputs on TV's are made for this.

> Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
> will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
> will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Kelly Ford

> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>

> Hi,

>

> For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
> receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
> and does not require my TV to 

Re: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook

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I suspect something changed on the face book side.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone SE 3On Dec 1, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Katrina Anderson  wrote:Great recommendation.  Just deleted/reinstalled the Facebook app; no change unfortunately.  Thanks for the suggestion though! KatrinaFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook Try reinstalling the face book app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina AndersonSent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 3:22 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook I have an iPhone 14 Pro with current IOS and current version of the Facebook app.  Recently I’ve noticed that voiceover doesn’t ID specific type of reactions in the Facebook app like it used to.  Voiceover used to identify the total number of reactions, as well as ID how many of those were likes, loves, care, etc.  Now voiceover doesn’t ID specific types of reactions (e.g. like, love, care, etc.)  I have reported this to Apple Accessibility and to Facebook; no response thus far.  Am I the only one experiencing this?  爛 Hopefully this will be remedied in the next Facebook app update. Katrina-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/05ec01d905c2%2487c79aa0%249756cfe0%24%40sbcglobal.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001801d90603%2470c2e670%245248b350%24%40gmail.com.



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RE: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook

[Katrina Anderson]

Great recommendation.  Just deleted/reinstalled the Facebook app; no change 
unfortunately.  Thanks for the suggestion though!
 
Katrina
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Try reinstalling the face book app.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook
 
I have an iPhone 14 Pro with current IOS and current version of the Facebook 
app.  Recently I’ve noticed that voiceover doesn’t ID specific type of 
reactions in the Facebook app like it used to.  Voiceover used to identify the 
total number of reactions, as well as ID how many of those were likes, loves, 
care, etc.  Now voiceover doesn’t ID specific types of reactions (e.g. like, 
love, care, etc.)  I have reported this to Apple Accessibility and to Facebook; 
no response thus far.  Am I the only one experiencing this?  爛 Hopefully this 
will be remedied in the next Facebook app update.
 
Katrina
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RE: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook

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Try reinstalling the face book app.

 

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Anderson
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Subject: Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook

 

I have an iPhone 14 Pro with current IOS and current version of the Facebook 
app.  Recently I’ve noticed that voiceover doesn’t ID specific type of 
reactions in the Facebook app like it used to.  Voiceover used to identify the 
total number of reactions, as well as ID how many of those were likes, loves, 
care, etc.  Now voiceover doesn’t ID specific types of reactions (e.g. like, 
love, care, etc.)  I have reported this to Apple Accessibility and to Facebook; 
no response thus far.  Am I the only one experiencing this?  爛 Hopefully this 
will be remedied in the next Facebook app update.

 

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi Feliciano,

I  already know that the APPLE TV does not need to be connected to a  TV 
as such since it works perfectly well plugged into my Meridian HDMI 
switch which fronts my surround processor regardless of whether the TV 
is on or off. I  think it just needs to be able to "see" a  device 
capable of handling a video signal at the other end.


I've ordered one  of the HDMI audio extractors and will give it a try 
with my NAIM  MUSO which supports analogue and optical digital inputs.


Thanks for your efforts as you say APPLE don't necessarily know all the 
answers especially when it comes to connecting to third party equipment.


I'll let you know when I get the converter this weekend what happens.


Gary

  when 01/12/2022 19:53, Feliciano Godoy wrote:


Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there 
isn’t one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like 
converters. You can try the one that I mentioned in the email prior to 
this.


Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was 
extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and 
everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. 
Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it 
and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings 
that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t 
keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, 
HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, 
HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick 
https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it


Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either 
optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam 
soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.


I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts 
HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is 
maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am 
actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos 
Beam does not work.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company 
Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv 
headless (without a tv)


I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to 
audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input 
where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM 
output which can be connected to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio 
only.


Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has 
the outputs you need.


Feliciano

>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


>> 


>> Hello all,

>> 

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with 
its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very 
latest 4K version which arrived last week.


>> 

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out 
remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in 
this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided 
to see if I could create a sound only system.


>> 

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals 
this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.


>> 

>> 


>> Gary

>> 

>> 


>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar 
which have only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which 
would convert the audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I 

Re: Is voice dream reader supposed to read doc files?

[Richard Turner]

Saving as a newer format is a good idea. It should read the older format; So, 
saving as the newer format is worth a try.




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> On Dec 1, 2022, at 2:02 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure if it’s supposed to support older, Microsoft Word files,.since 
> you have Microsoft Word, you can do a save as and save it as the new word 
> file type, and then should work.
> 
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>> On Dec 1, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Somebody sent me a doc file, and older word format which hasn’t been used 
>> for years. It will open in my copy of word on my PC, but I wanted it in 
>> Voice Dream. So I got the attachment on my iPhone and use the share sheet to 
>> get it into voice dream reader. So voice dream reader says the download is 
>> complete, but it also says the file is unavailable and it has an unknown 
>> runtime. So it’s apparently really not being recognized. Tapping on it does 
>> nothing of course. Should I be able to read a doc file in voice dream?
>> Mary
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Re: Is voice dream reader supposed to read doc files?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I’m not sure if it’s supposed to support older, Microsoft Word files,.since you 
have Microsoft Word, you can do a save as and save it as the new word file 
type, and then should work.

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> On Dec 1, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Somebody sent me a doc file, and older word format which hasn’t been used 
> for years. It will open in my copy of word on my PC, but I wanted it in Voice 
> Dream. So I got the attachment on my iPhone and use the share sheet to get it 
> into voice dream reader. So voice dream reader says the download is complete, 
> but it also says the file is unavailable and it has an unknown runtime. So 
> it’s apparently really not being recognized. Tapping on it does nothing of 
> course. Should I be able to read a doc file in voice dream?
> Mary
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Is voice dream reader supposed to read doc files?

[Mary Otten]

Somebody sent me a doc file, and older word format which hasn’t been used for 
years. It will open in my copy of word on my PC, but I wanted it in Voice 
Dream. So I got the attachment on my iPhone and use the share sheet to get it 
into voice dream reader. So voice dream reader says the download is complete, 
but it also says the file is unavailable and it has an unknown runtime. So it’s 
apparently really not being recognized. Tapping on it does nothing of course. 
Should I be able to read a doc file in voice dream?
Mary


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Voiceover Not Identifying Specific Type of Reactions in Facebook

[Katrina Anderson]

I have an iPhone 14 Pro with current IOS and current version of the Facebook 
app.  Recently I’ve noticed that voiceover doesn’t ID specific type of 
reactions in the Facebook app like it used to.  Voiceover used to identify the 
total number of reactions, as well as ID how many of those were likes, loves, 
care, etc.  Now voiceover doesn’t ID specific types of reactions (e.g. like, 
love, care, etc.)  I have reported this to Apple Accessibility and to Facebook; 
no response thus far.  Am I the only one experiencing this?  爛 Hopefully this 
will be remedied in the next Facebook app update.
 
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there isn’t 
one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like converters. You can try 
the one that I mentioned in the email prior to this.

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. 
We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely 
everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can 
sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture 
now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That 
doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV 

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Joney Owen]

Hi all:I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:




I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:






 

Hi Feliciano,
 
That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar
 recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


 
Gary,
In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)

 
I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected
 to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio only.
 
Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs you need.
Feliciano 
 
>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which arrived last week.
>> 
>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could
 create a sound only system.
>> 
>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.
>> 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is
 possible, but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it works. If not
 he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>>> To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs
 or gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 

>>> 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We scuffed 

RE: blood pressure monitors.

[Mr. Ed]

Hey Sieghard,
You better start using the Qardio  Arm as an old goat like you might start 
having high blood pressure. I want to keep you around so I have someone to 
tease that is my age. 藍 
Mr. Ed


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.

It is accessible, many people on the list have it, we also have one and while I 
don't use it much it works well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.

Hi, Sieghard.
I saw Qardio Arm on Amazon for $112.
Can I download Qardio Arm's app from the AppStore?
How accessible is the app?
Any more info about this hardware/software is much appreciated.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.

The Qardio Arm, please note the spelling.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blood pressure monitors.

please can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor and app if needed.  
thanks in advance, Janet

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
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I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

 On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
 mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:



 Apple 

RE: blood pressure monitors.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is accessible, many people on the list have it, we also have one and while I 
don't use it much it works well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.

Hi, Sieghard.
I saw Qardio Arm on Amazon for $112.
Can I download Qardio Arm's app from the AppStore?
How accessible is the app?
Any more info about this hardware/software is much appreciated.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blood pressure monitors.

The Qardio Arm, please note the spelling.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blood pressure monitors.

please can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor and app if needed.  
thanks in advance, Janet

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RE: blood pressure monitors.

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Sieghard.
I saw Qardio Arm on Amazon for $112.
Can I download Qardio Arm's app from the AppStore?
How accessible is the app?
Any more info about this hardware/software is much appreciated.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
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Weitzel
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The Qardio Arm, please note the spelling.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
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please can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor and app if needed.  
thanks in advance, Janet

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RE: am I losing my mind

[deidreandlouise]

   Yep it was turned on for messages while almost everything else 
was turned off! It's off now! Thanks. 

 

   Deidre 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: am I losing my mind

 

Maybe Siri notification reading is turned on, you can check under Settings > 
Siri and Search > Announce Notifications

At the very top you can turn this on and off, if it is turned on you can then 
select whether Siri should read notifications for your apps under the heading 
"Announce notifications from". 

Go down until you find messages and see if it is on.

If you completely turn off Voiceover with a triple press of the side button or 
maybe it's the home button if you have an SE or if you ask Siri to turn off 
Voiceover there is no way Voiceover is reading anything and it must be Siri.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: am I losing my mind

 

   A  new thing is now suddenly happening on my SE 2nd gen phone 
running 16, that is, if I have not lost my  mind.

   I have voice over off but it is still reading messagesout loud. 
Is this a notification setting that overides voice over being turned off?

 

   Deidre

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RE: am I losing my mind

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe Siri notification reading is turned on, you can check under Settings > 
Siri and Search > Announce Notifications
At the very top you can turn this on and off, if it is turned on you can then 
select whether Siri should read notifications for your apps under the heading 
"Announce notifications from".
Go down until you find messages and see if it is on.
If you completely turn off Voiceover with a triple press of the side button or 
maybe it's the home button if you have an SE or if you ask Siri to turn off 
Voiceover there is no way Voiceover is reading anything and it must be Siri.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I losing my mind

   A  new thing is now suddenly happening on my SE 2nd gen phone 
running 16, that is, if I have not lost my  mind.
   I have voice over off but it is still reading messagesout loud. 
Is this a notification setting that overides voice over being turned off?

   Deidre
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am I losing my mind

[deidreandlouise]

   A  new thing is now suddenly happening on my SE 2nd gen phone
running 16, that is, if I have not lost my  mind.

   I have voice over off but it is still reading messagesout
loud. Is this a notification setting that overides voice over being turned
off?

 

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translator query

[anthonyborg001]

Hi my dear friends, 

 

I need to know if whenever i use the translator it will show what i wrote on
the display as well for the beneffit of a sighted person because at the
moment there would be nothing on the display when i use it? 

Should i have to do something from the settings? 

I have se first gen. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

 On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
 mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:



 Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930



 I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
 trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.



 I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
 Smart TV in our living room...







 Richard, USA.

 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch

 with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in

 the Universe



 My web site: https://www.turner42.com



 -Original Message-

 From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?



 Hi all,



 Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged