RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If this is happening in the spotify app then why would it be Apple's fault? 
Have you contacted Spotify?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

They still haven’t fixed the jam issue on 
Spotify where you can’t get off the invite friends to a jam screen. 
Nonvoiceover users can just swipe down to get to the jam details screen, that 
does nothing with VoiceOver on, and no this isn’t a scrub which also doesn’t 
work, the swipe down gets you to an entirely new screen. And yes I’ve been 
talking to Apple on this.

> On Jan 25, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Are you on iOS 17.3 yet? I used to see this as well, but not so much lately, 
> in fact, can't remember when it last happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I've noticed a couple of times so far when dictating something in an email, 
> my dictation entry is posted twice. Don't know if it's just one of those 
> random things or possibly a bug. Have only experienced in the message field 
> of an email. Nowhere else.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet. 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? 
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Cristobal Munoz]

Yes, 17.3. I recall there being a similar bug back around when V17 was 
released, but that eventually got fixed. So far has not happened and iMessages 
or anywhere else where there’s an edit field. It could also be one of those 
random things too…
Overall, I’m happy with the new release.

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 10:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Are you on iOS 17.3 yet? I used to see this as well, but not so much lately, 
> in fact, can't remember when it last happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I've noticed a couple of times so far when dictating something in an email, 
> my dictation entry is posted twice. Don't know if it's just one of those 
> random things or possibly a bug. Have only experienced in the message field 
> of an email. Nowhere else.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report?
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my iPhone 13 Pro

[Dennis Long]

I agree with you I see no need to have all those books on your phone.

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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my 
iPhone 13 Pro

I know you love to hord audio books, but I sure hope you do have them backed up 
somewhere because having them downloaded all to your phone would make for a not 
very good situation if something ever happened to it. I also love audio books, 
but I am way too lazy to download them from multiple sources so for some years 
Audible has pretty much been my only source and by now my Audible library is a 
little over 1,100 books. But for me that is what the cloud is for, I have 
access to any of the books in my Audible library, but except for a few which I 
am listening to or planning to listen to, they are just living happily on 
Audible's server and if I want to listen to something again I can either stream 
it or tap the download button and less than a minute later it's done. But to 
each their own, I am in this sense also too cheap for having them all on my 
phone because ethen I'd have to spend hundreds of Dollars more to get a 1 Tb 
phone where for me the phone with the smallest capacity is just fine. So there 
you go, cheap and lazy, but it just means I can spend my money for whatever 
other toy or at times useful item I would like and lazy means I have time for 
work and other stuff.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my 
iPhone 13 Pro

I have way to many audio books I have put on my iPhone to want to completely 
wipe my iPhone and set it up from scratch.  When I get my next iPhone, I'll 
just do phone to phone transfer and that should work for me.

On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> One of the new features of iOS 17.3 is “stolen device protection”.
> You find it in Settings > Face Id and Passcode.
> I actually fell victim to it yesterday as I decided that the iOS 17.3 
> update might be a good time to do a complete reset of my iPhone and to 
> set up as a new device completely from scratch. I felt lately my 
> battery performance and a few other things weren’t what they should be 
> and it’s been many years isnce I did this. One thing I must say is 
> that nowadays for most iPhone users who use their phone for things 
> like email, banking, home automation, as a trusted device for 2-factor 
> authentication and more doing this is a real pain in the you know where and 
> it involves hours and hours of time.
> Anyhow, after I wiped my phone, went through the setup process and all 
> that I upgraded to iOS 17.3 and after the update it asked me if I 
> wanted to turn stolen device protection on. I did so since I was 
> actually running the iOS
> 17.3 Beta prior to this and already had it on. Then came the surprise. 
> I wanted to set my work email which is an Exchange account. When I 
> started I was informed that in order to do this I had to temporarily 
> turn off stolen device protection. So over to Settings I went, but 
> when I tried to turn it off I was informed that I wasn’t in a known 
> location hence a 1 hour delay would be put in place before I could 
> turn it off and there was a button to proceed and start the 1 hour 
> countdown. This of course was because I had wiped my iPhone and it had 
> not yet build up a history of my usual locations like my home and 
> work. I then received a notification when the hour was up, but I was 
> doing other stuff so I ignored it for a while, not sure how long, but 
> probably another hour or so and then when I went back to turn off 
> stolen device protection I guess too much time had passed and I had to 
> do it all over again. Next time I went back maybe 15 minutes after receiving 
> the notification and I then was able to turn it off.
> The other thing one should remember is that if you don’t have any 
> other trusted devices things can get complicated with 2-factor authentication.
> Even for some Apple stuff I had to go through 2-factor authentication 
> and enter the 6-digit code, fortunately we also have an iPad where I 
> was able to receive said code.
> As for setting up my Microsoft and some other accounts, I use the 
> Microsoft Authenticator app and of course you need to authenticate to 
> set up the authenticator app. Fortunately this was possible with a 
> combination of getting a code at one of my emails and text, but I tell 
> you it can get complicated and hopefully it will be many years until I 
> wish to do this again.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
>
>
> Yep, I 

RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[davycuppens]

Malcolm 

 

Then please do report to Apple accessibilityagain and again!

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Malcolm Parfitt
Verzonden: donderdag 25 januari 2024 0:40
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

 

I have one major problem with iOS17 that has not been fixed.

 

If I choose to use British Siri voice three or four with Voiceover when I 
charge my phone the voices are deleted and the device, an iPhone 15 Pro Max 
reverts to using Daniel.  I know I’m not alone in experiencing this issue and 
until recently the same behaviour occurred with my Apple Watch Series 7.

 

Other than that, iOS7 has been working well for me.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 24 Jan 2024, at 23:32, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, I installed it and have seen nothing new either.  I have had no problems 
with it at all.

 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 1/24/2024 5:51 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,
 
I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
 
Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? Or
any issues that we should know?
 
All replies greatly appreciated.
 
Mark
 
 

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RE: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a stopwatch is running

[davycuppens]

Bill, OK understood but Jennie is right here, we have to leave the app get out 
of i tand play in the background and so I can find my information, its great!
Davy 

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Onderwerp: Re: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a 
stopwatch is running

No, you are not doing anything wrong. I am not exactly sure what it will be 
used for, but Dynamic Island is something available for app developers to use 
for certain functions. It just hasn’t been taken advantage of yet. 
So time will tell if will prove to be useful or a hindrance to us. 
Bill Outman 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2024, at 12:37 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> 
> My good old XR has become slow and sluggish and so I bought myself the 
> 15 pro max, so smooth and what a speed performance!
> 
> I did my homework read a lot about it but for me, the dynamic island, 
> which is new for me, always stays empty even when collapsing or 
> expanding it with the rotor setting.
> 
> When i Play music, normally notifications like elapsed time or the 
> artists name should appear for some apps like spotify or apple music, 
> tunein, but really it is always empty.
> 
> I know you cannot flick you have to swipe up until you find the 
> dynamic island but I cannot do anything with it!
> Am I doing or understanding something wrong?
> Davy
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RE: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a stopwatch is running

[davycuppens]

Jennie 

You did the trick, this is the solution!!!
Many thanx!
Davy 

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Verzonden: donderdag 25 januari 2024 3:08
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Onderwerp: Re: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a 
stopwatch is running

Hi,

ONe use of Dynamic Island is for when you are not in the app and you want to 
see what is playing.

1. Start some music playing
2. Get completely out of the music app. Don’t close it, just go to your home 
screen or another app.
3. Now touch the Dynamic Island and see if it tells you what is playing.
Same with the timer
1. Start a timer
2. Go home
3. Touch the Dynamic Island. It should tell you how much time you have left in 
the timer.

If you cannot see it, call Apple accessibility. They may be able to screen 
share and tell you how to use it.

Jenn

Jennie Facer

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:02 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> No, you are not doing anything wrong. I am not exactly sure what it will be 
> used for, but Dynamic Island is something available for app developers to use 
> for certain functions. It just hasn’t been taken advantage of yet. 
> So time will tell if will prove to be useful or a hindrance to us. 
> Bill Outman
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2024, at 12:37 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> 
>> My good old XR has become slow and sluggish and so I bought myself 
>> the 15 pro max, so smooth and what a speed performance!
>> 
>> I did my homework read a lot about it but for me, the dynamic island, 
>> which is new for me, always stays empty even when collapsing or 
>> expanding it with the rotor setting.
>> 
>> When i Play music, normally notifications like elapsed time or the 
>> artists name should appear for some apps like spotify or apple music, 
>> tunein, but really it is always empty.
>> 
>> I know you cannot flick you have to swipe up until you find the 
>> dynamic island but I cannot do anything with it!
>> Am I doing or understanding something wrong?
>> Davy
>> 
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RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[davycuppens]

There are no problems or bugs reported.
Davy 

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Onderwerp: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet. 
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> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
> 
> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? 
> Or any issues that we should know?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Quick Nav Announcements

[thom3of5]

I know that I can use quick nav  when using my Bluetooth keyboard. This is done 
with VO Q to toggle. Then H will be heading , T for table, and so on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Quick Nav Announcements

 

Hi Sieghard,

Well, I’m not sure I can give a lot of examples because I only use it to set it 
to speak because the default is to play a sound which I have a hard time 
telling if the tone means QuickNav is on or off.  So having it speak tells me 
exactly which state it is in.

This is both for when you toggle it manually or when it changes automatically 
like when you enter an edit field.

I will assume that braille would show it on a braille display.

I also assume that Change Pitch would only apply if speak was on, but I don’t 
bother since the speech option makes it quite clear, 

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 10:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Quick Nav Announcements

 

Hi, just curious if somebody can give an explanation maybe with example of 
exactly what Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Verbosity > Quick Nav 
Announcements does.

It can be set to the typical options like speak, play sound, change pitch, 
braille or do nothing.

 

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Quick Nav Announcements

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sieghard,

Well, I’m not sure I can give a lot of examples because I only use it to set it 
to speak because the default is to play a sound which I have a hard time 
telling if the tone means QuickNav is on or off.  So having it speak tells me 
exactly which state it is in.

This is both for when you toggle it manually or when it changes automatically 
like when you enter an edit field.

I will assume that braille would show it on a braille display.

I also assume that Change Pitch would only apply if speak was on, but I don’t 
bother since the speech option makes it quite clear, 

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 10:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Quick Nav Announcements

 

Hi, just curious if somebody can give an explanation maybe with example of 
exactly what Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Verbosity > Quick Nav 
Announcements does.

It can be set to the typical options like speak, play sound, change pitch, 
braille or do nothing.

 

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'll stick with iTunes.  I use it all the time to get audio books and
audio dramas on to my iPhone.  I use the file sharing option in
iTunes.

On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sorry, forgot to include the link for the app, here it is:
>
> Ringtones Maker - the ring
> app
> The app is free to use, there is a “Remove Ads” button and for $2.99 US or
> $3.99 Canadian you can support the developer and get rid of ads.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band
> apps
>
> Hello,
>
> I haven’t used iTunes for a long time and on my laptop I have been playing
> around a little with the new Windows app which eventually will replace
> iTunes, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices. Basically the functionality
> of iTunes which allows you to manage and listen to the various media types
> as well as provide a device section where you could update/restore your
> iPhone or add ringtones to be synced to your connected iPhone is now divided
> up among these apps similar to how it is on a Mac.
> Unfortunately at this stage the Apple Devices app which is accessible for
> things like updating/restoring your phone, making encrypted backups, turn
> Voiceover on/off etc. does not include an option to sync ringtones to your
> device. Maybe it does not yet include this feature as the app is still in
> Beta testing phase, but either way since I did a complete reset of my
> iPhonelast night I was looking for a way to at least get some of my
> favourite songs back as ringtones.
> After listening to a YouTube video, I downloaded the app the guy was using
> and found that it is a pretty simple app and it is accessible. I am
> including a link later. Basically when I opened the app I was able to import
> a song from my computer into the app which is achieved by entering an IP
> address into a browser, this takes you to a simple website where you can
> browse to your song and import it. This worked well and the song was then in
> the app.
> Here I was able to clip the song so it’s only 30 seconds long and setting
> start time and end time as well as enabling a fade in and fade out effect
> was easy to do. Then I tapped the “Make” button which created the ringtone
> with the correct M4R extension.
> After that I I found a “Share” option under “More” and I was able to select
> Garage Band which I also installed on my iPhone before, for those who don’t
> know it, this app is a free app from Apple which allows you to create and
> work with all sorts of audio. After I shared it, I opened Garage Band,
> tapped on “My songs” and my ringtone was there.
> Flicking down on the song gave me a bunch of options and again one of them
> was “Share”. After tapping it, I had several options including “Ringtone”.
> When I tapped it I was told the length of the song had to be adjusted, It
> said “Your ringtone needs to be 30 seconds or less and will be automatically
> shortened to the appropriate length”.
> I tapped continue and then had only two options, “Cancel” and “Export”. I
> tapped on export and then when I went to Settings > Sounds and Haptics >
> Ringtones it was right there and I was able to select it.
>
> This method is not as easy and quick as copying a bunch of already existing
> ringtones and simply pasting them into the appropriate section in iTunes,
> but it is not very difficult and one can certainly make some ringtones based
> on songs this way.
> There is also an option where you can select a video from yoru photo library
> on the iPhone if you have one which includes audio. The audio is then
> extracted and you can make a ringtone from this.
> Lastly, you do of course have options in Garage Band to create your own
> music or record yourself if you are a musician, but that is one thing I am
> not.
>
> I will once again leave feedback for Apple in the next little while asking
> them to hopefully add the ability to sync ringtones via the Apple Devices
> app or even better would be if they allows for some other way to simply
> import them from a place like Dropbox or other cloud storage service. You
> can do just about anything nowadays from the iPhone and I am sure iTunes
> will probably be a thing of the past sooner rather than later and this is
> one area where Apple should give customers an option to do this just using a
> phone.
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RE: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a stopwatch is running

[pdllogan77]

Dynamic Island works as expected on my IP 15P ..  it also worked on previous 
phone and varying IOS versions.  Not every app supports it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a 
stopwatch is running

You wrote " Dynamic Island is something available for app developers to use for 
certain functions" and this is true, but after the developer utilizes its 
capabilities it is for everybody to get information about whatever might be 
going on on your iPhone.
For example, you may have a timer going or you might be playing some music and 
want to know what is playing. You can check in the dynamic island and it will 
give you the timer's countdown or tell you what is playing.
I believe Uber may have already integrated it so if you had a car ordered, the 
dynamic island would give you information about how far away it is etc.
I don't have an iPhone which has the dynamic island, but to my knowledge 
whatever is shown in there is read by Voiceover and is accessible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
Outman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dynamic island is always empty even when music is playing or a 
stopwatch is running

No, you are not doing anything wrong. I am not exactly sure what it will be 
used for, but Dynamic Island is something available for app developers to use 
for certain functions. It just hasn’t been taken advantage of yet. 
So time will tell if will prove to be useful or a hindrance to us. 
Bill Outman 

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> On Jan 23, 2024, at 12:37 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> 
> My good old XR has become slow and sluggish and so I bought myself the
> 15 pro max, so smooth and what a speed performance!
> 
> I did my homework read a lot about it but for me, the dynamic island, 
> which is new for me, always stays empty even when collapsing or 
> expanding it with the rotor setting.
> 
> When i Play music, normally notifications like elapsed time or the 
> artists name should appear for some apps like spotify or apple music, 
> tunein, but really it is always empty.
> 
> I know you cannot flick you have to swipe up until you find the 
> dynamic island but I cannot do anything with it!
> Am I doing or understanding something wrong?
> Davy
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Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Star Gazer]

They still haven’t fixed the jam issue on 
Spotify where you can’t get off the invite friends to a jam screen. 
Nonvoiceover users can just swipe down to get to the jam details screen, that 
does nothing with VoiceOver on, and no this isn’t a scrub which also doesn’t 
work, the swipe down gets you to an entirely new screen. And yes I’ve been 
talking to Apple on this.

> On Jan 25, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Are you on iOS 17.3 yet? I used to see this as well, but not so much lately, 
> in fact, can't remember when it last happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I've noticed a couple of times so far when dictating something in an email, 
> my dictation entry is posted twice. Don't know if it's just one of those 
> random things or possibly a bug. Have only experienced in the message field 
> of an email. Nowhere else.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet. 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
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> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? 
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
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RE: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, forgot to include the link for the app, here it is:

Ringtones Maker - the ring 
app
The app is free to use, there is a “Remove Ads” button and for $2.99 US or 
$3.99 Canadian you can support the developer and get rid of ads.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

Hello,

I haven’t used iTunes for a long time and on my laptop I have been playing 
around a little with the new Windows app which eventually will replace iTunes, 
Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices. Basically the functionality of iTunes 
which allows you to manage and listen to the various media types as well as 
provide a device section where you could update/restore your iPhone or add 
ringtones to be synced to your connected iPhone is now divided up among these 
apps similar to how it is on a Mac.
Unfortunately at this stage the Apple Devices app which is accessible for 
things like updating/restoring your phone, making encrypted backups, turn 
Voiceover on/off etc. does not include an option to sync ringtones to your 
device. Maybe it does not yet include this feature as the app is still in Beta 
testing phase, but either way since I did a complete reset of my iPhonelast 
night I was looking for a way to at least get some of my favourite songs back 
as ringtones.
After listening to a YouTube video, I downloaded the app the guy was using and 
found that it is a pretty simple app and it is accessible. I am including a 
link later. Basically when I opened the app I was able to import a song from my 
computer into the app which is achieved by entering an IP address into a 
browser, this takes you to a simple website where you can browse to your song 
and import it. This worked well and the song was then in the app.
Here I was able to clip the song so it’s only 30 seconds long and setting start 
time and end time as well as enabling a fade in and fade out effect was easy to 
do. Then I tapped the “Make” button which created the ringtone with the correct 
M4R extension.
After that I I found a “Share” option under “More” and I was able to select 
Garage Band which I also installed on my iPhone before, for those who don’t 
know it, this app is a free app from Apple which allows you to create and work 
with all sorts of audio. After I shared it, I opened Garage Band, tapped on “My 
songs” and my ringtone was there.
Flicking down on the song gave me a bunch of options and again one of them was 
“Share”. After tapping it, I had several options including “Ringtone”.
When I tapped it I was told the length of the song had to be adjusted, It said 
“Your ringtone needs to be 30 seconds or less and will be automatically 
shortened to the appropriate length”.
I tapped continue and then had only two options, “Cancel” and “Export”. I 
tapped on export and then when I went to Settings > Sounds and Haptics > 
Ringtones it was right there and I was able to select it.

This method is not as easy and quick as copying a bunch of already existing 
ringtones and simply pasting them into the appropriate section in iTunes, but 
it is not very difficult and one can certainly make some ringtones based on 
songs this way.
There is also an option where you can select a video from yoru photo library on 
the iPhone if you have one which includes audio. The audio is then extracted 
and you can make a ringtone from this.
Lastly, you do of course have options in Garage Band to create your own music 
or record yourself if you are a musician, but that is one thing I am not.

I will once again leave feedback for Apple in the next little while asking them 
to hopefully add the ability to sync ringtones via the Apple Devices app or 
even better would be if they allows for some other way to simply import them 
from a place like Dropbox or other cloud storage service. You can do just about 
anything nowadays from the iPhone and I am sure iTunes will probably be a thing 
of the past sooner rather than later and this is one area where Apple should 
give customers an option to do this just using a phone.

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RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my iPhone 13 Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I know you love to hord audio books, but I sure hope you do have them backed up 
somewhere because having them downloaded all to your phone would make for a not 
very good situation if something ever happened to it. I also love audio books, 
but I am way too lazy to download them from multiple sources so for some years 
Audible has pretty much been my only source and by now my Audible library is a 
little over 1,100 books. But for me that is what the cloud is for, I have 
access to any of the books in my Audible library, but except for a few which I 
am listening to or planning to listen to, they are just living happily on 
Audible's server and if I want to listen to something again I can either stream 
it or tap the download button and less than a minute later it's done. But to 
each their own, I am in this sense also too cheap for having them all on my 
phone because ethen I'd have to spend hundreds of Dollars more to get a 1 Tb 
phone where for me the phone with the smallest capacity is just fine. So there 
you go, cheap and lazy, but it just means I can spend my money for whatever 
other toy or at times useful item I would like and lazy means I have time for 
work and other stuff.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my 
iPhone 13 Pro

I have way to many audio books I have put on my iPhone to want to completely 
wipe my iPhone and set it up from scratch.  When I get my next iPhone, I'll 
just do phone to phone transfer and that should work for me.

On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> One of the new features of iOS 17.3 is “stolen device protection”.
> You find it in Settings > Face Id and Passcode.
> I actually fell victim to it yesterday as I decided that the iOS 17.3 
> update might be a good time to do a complete reset of my iPhone and to 
> set up as a new device completely from scratch. I felt lately my 
> battery performance and a few other things weren’t what they should be 
> and it’s been many years isnce I did this. One thing I must say is 
> that nowadays for most iPhone users who use their phone for things 
> like email, banking, home automation, as a trusted device for 2-factor 
> authentication and more doing this is a real pain in the you know where and 
> it involves hours and hours of time.
> Anyhow, after I wiped my phone, went through the setup process and all 
> that I upgraded to iOS 17.3 and after the update it asked me if I 
> wanted to turn stolen device protection on. I did so since I was 
> actually running the iOS
> 17.3 Beta prior to this and already had it on. Then came the surprise. 
> I wanted to set my work email which is an Exchange account. When I 
> started I was informed that in order to do this I had to temporarily 
> turn off stolen device protection. So over to Settings I went, but 
> when I tried to turn it off I was informed that I wasn’t in a known 
> location hence a 1 hour delay would be put in place before I could 
> turn it off and there was a button to proceed and start the 1 hour 
> countdown. This of course was because I had wiped my iPhone and it had 
> not yet build up a history of my usual locations like my home and 
> work. I then received a notification when the hour was up, but I was 
> doing other stuff so I ignored it for a while, not sure how long, but 
> probably another hour or so and then when I went back to turn off 
> stolen device protection I guess too much time had passed and I had to 
> do it all over again. Next time I went back maybe 15 minutes after receiving 
> the notification and I then was able to turn it off.
> The other thing one should remember is that if you don’t have any 
> other trusted devices things can get complicated with 2-factor authentication.
> Even for some Apple stuff I had to go through 2-factor authentication 
> and enter the 6-digit code, fortunately we also have an iPad where I 
> was able to receive said code.
> As for setting up my Microsoft and some other accounts, I use the 
> Microsoft Authenticator app and of course you need to authenticate to 
> set up the authenticator app. Fortunately this was possible with a 
> combination of getting a code at one of my emails and text, but I tell 
> you it can get complicated and hopefully it will be many years until I 
> wish to do this again.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
>
>
> Yep, I installed it and have seen nothing new either.  I have had no 
> problems with it at all.
>
>
>
> Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
> On 1/24/2024 5:51 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>
>
>
> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? 
> Or
>
> any issues 

Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

I haven't used iTunes for a long time and on my laptop I have been playing 
around a little with the new Windows app which eventually will replace iTunes, 
Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices. Basically the functionality of iTunes 
which allows you to manage and listen to the various media types as well as 
provide a device section where you could update/restore your iPhone or add 
ringtones to be synced to your connected iPhone is now divided up among these 
apps similar to how it is on a Mac.
Unfortunately at this stage the Apple Devices app which is accessible for 
things like updating/restoring your phone, making encrypted backups, turn 
Voiceover on/off etc. does not include an option to sync ringtones to your 
device. Maybe it does not yet include this feature as the app is still in Beta 
testing phase, but either way since I did a complete reset of my iPhonelast 
night I was looking for a way to at least get some of my favourite songs back 
as ringtones.
After listening to a YouTube video, I downloaded the app the guy was using and 
found that it is a pretty simple app and it is accessible. I am including a 
link later. Basically when I opened the app I was able to import a song from my 
computer into the app which is achieved by entering an IP address into a 
browser, this takes you to a simple website where you can browse to your song 
and import it. This worked well and the song was then in the app.
Here I was able to clip the song so it's only 30 seconds long and setting start 
time and end time as well as enabling a fade in and fade out effect was easy to 
do. Then I tapped the "Make" button which created the ringtone with the correct 
M4R extension.
After that I I found a "Share" option under "More" and I was able to select 
Garage Band which I also installed on my iPhone before, for those who don't 
know it, this app is a free app from Apple which allows you to create and work 
with all sorts of audio. After I shared it, I opened Garage Band, tapped on "My 
songs" and my ringtone was there.
Flicking down on the song gave me a bunch of options and again one of them was 
"Share". After tapping it, I had several options including "Ringtone".
When I tapped it I was told the length of the song had to be adjusted, It said 
"Your ringtone needs to be 30 seconds or less and will be automatically 
shortened to the appropriate length".
I tapped continue and then had only two options, "Cancel" and "Export". I 
tapped on export and then when I went to Settings > Sounds and Haptics > 
Ringtones it was right there and I was able to select it.

This method is not as easy and quick as copying a bunch of already existing 
ringtones and simply pasting them into the appropriate section in iTunes, but 
it is not very difficult and one can certainly make some ringtones based on 
songs this way.
There is also an option where you can select a video from yoru photo library on 
the iPhone if you have one which includes audio. The audio is then extracted 
and you can make a ringtone from this.
Lastly, you do of course have options in Garage Band to create your own music 
or record yourself if you are a musician, but that is one thing I am not.

I will once again leave feedback for Apple in the next little while asking them 
to hopefully add the ability to sync ringtones via the Apple Devices app or 
even better would be if they allows for some other way to simply import them 
from a place like Dropbox or other cloud storage service. You can do just about 
anything nowadays from the iPhone and I am sure iTunes will probably be a thing 
of the past sooner rather than later and this is one area where Apple should 
give customers an option to do this just using a phone.

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Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone? - also my thought son completely resetting my iPhone 13 Pro

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have way to many audio books I have put on my iPhone to want to
completely wipe my iPhone and set it up from scratch.  When I get my
next iPhone, I'll just do phone to phone transfer and that should work
for me.

On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> One of the new features of iOS 17.3 is “stolen device protection”.
> You find it in Settings > Face Id and Passcode.
> I actually fell victim to it yesterday as I decided that the iOS 17.3 update
> might be a good time to do a complete reset of my iPhone and to set up as a
> new device completely from scratch. I felt lately my battery performance and
> a few other things weren’t what they should be and it’s been many years
> isnce I did this. One thing I must say is that nowadays for most iPhone
> users who use their phone for things like email, banking, home automation,
> as a trusted device for 2-factor authentication and more doing this is a
> real pain in the you know where and it involves hours and hours of time.
> Anyhow, after I wiped my phone, went through the setup process and all that
> I upgraded to iOS 17.3 and after the update it asked me if I wanted to turn
> stolen device protection on. I did so since I was actually running the iOS
> 17.3 Beta prior to this and already had it on. Then came the surprise. I
> wanted to set my work email which is an Exchange account. When I started I
> was informed that in order to do this I had to temporarily turn off stolen
> device protection. So over to Settings I went, but when I tried to turn it
> off I was informed that I wasn’t in a known location hence a 1 hour delay
> would be put in place before I could turn it off and there was a button to
> proceed and start the 1 hour countdown. This of course was because I had
> wiped my iPhone and it had not yet build up a history of my usual locations
> like my home and work. I then received a notification when the hour was up,
> but I was doing other stuff so I ignored it for a while, not sure how long,
> but probably another hour or so and then when I went back to turn off stolen
> device protection I guess too much time had passed and I had to do it all
> over again. Next time I went back maybe 15 minutes after receiving the
> notification and I then was able to turn it off.
> The other thing one should remember is that if you don’t have any other
> trusted devices things can get complicated with 2-factor authentication.
> Even for some Apple stuff I had to go through 2-factor authentication and
> enter the 6-digit code, fortunately we also have an iPad where I was able to
> receive said code.
> As for setting up my Microsoft and some other accounts, I use the Microsoft
> Authenticator app and of course you need to authenticate to set up the
> authenticator app. Fortunately this was possible with a combination of
> getting a code at one of my emails and text, but I tell you it can get
> complicated and hopefully it will be many years until I wish to do this
> again.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
>
>
> Yep, I installed it and have seen nothing new either.  I have had no
> problems with it at all.
>
>
>
> Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
> On 1/24/2024 5:51 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>
>
>
> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? Or
>
> any issues that we should know?
>
>
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
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