To All Freedom Scientific Focus Braille Display Users

2013-02-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

If, like me, you are not happy that, as of the last iOS update, we cannot
use the left Wiz Wheel/Rocker to pan the Braille display in iBooks, please
send me a quick reply, off-list.

Just reply with something as simple as, me, too.  

My direct email address is:  mk...@ucla.edu

I'll explain more upon receipt of your reply.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Mark  

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RE: Trekker GPS App

2013-02-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hi,

I was one of those who paid 2000 plus dollars for the original Trekker
Maestro device.  It changed my life in so many ways.

Never before had I experienced such navigational independence.

I have been lobbying HumanWare for a Trekker iOS app ever since it became
clear that Code Factory was not going to port it's Mobile Geo to iOS.

Mark





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trekker GPS App

Maestro Trekker was back in 2005 and went belly up in 2007 when the Apple
iPhone changed the world.  I think companies wanting to remain in business
selling products and services to the Blind need to wake up and smell the
coffee.  The days of sticking it to the blind because they can are gone. 
Blind people today understand that they vote with their dollars.  No way
could they charge 2 grand for a Trekker app.  They probably could get 20
dollars for it if it had all the features of the Trekker.  
 
At this point in time, there aren't enough people asking Humanware for a
Trekker app.  They do listen though.  A good example is the survey that was
done about features people wanted on a book reader.  As a result of what
blind people wanted, the Victor Reader Stream is out with wireless
connectivity and lets you directly download NLS books, Bookshare.org content
and much more.  But it happened because enough people contacted them and
asked for it.  Humanware is awhere of the fact that there is some interest
by Trekker users in a Trekker app for iPhone but so far, not enough blind
people have made enough requests for even a survey to be put together for
usage and features.  That's why I gave the contact info.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Trekker GPS App

Hi Alan,

I am not sure if Humanware would be the right company to talk to. Their
Trekker product utilizes Sendero’s technology and as far as I know Sendero
is and has been working on a more complete GPS app geared towards the blind
for some time. I believe they are funded by Seeing Eye which of course is a
good thing because Seeing Eye has the money to back such a project.

I used to own a Trekker Maestro about 5 years ago and while I am sure there
are people who had good experiences with Humanware, their products and
customer service, I was never very impressed and I have a feeling if
Humanware was to come up with a GPS app they would try and charge through
the nose for it.
Remember Orator or whatever it was called? It was the screenreader they
developed for Blackberry and even though it only worked on a few devices
they were charging $450 which is more than half of the most expensive 64 Gig
iPhone without contract. I bet those very likely few people who did buy it
probably regretted the decision.
It’s really too bad Blackberry didn’t integrate accessibility into the
Blackberry 10 platform because the Z10 and Q10 really do sound like very
nice phones and the initial feedback I heard has been rather positive.

Anyhow, I don’t want to stray into another discussion of accessibility of
other platforms and so on, but maybe somebody on the list has heard
something new about Sendero’s GPS project for the iPhone and will share it.
It would really be nice if they came up with a really comprehensive GPS app
this year; if it had similar features to a Trekker or MobilGeo combined with
the stability of the iOS platform it would really be worth something.


Regards,
Sieghard
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A Quick Question About Accessing FaceBook

2013-10-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

This is Mark.

I am finally going to delve into the world of FaceBook on my iPhone 5 S.  

What is the preferred app of choice for accessing Facebook?  

I ask because, a year or so ago, the app put out by Facebook was either not
VoiceOver accessible or had some issues, if I remember correctly.

Any and all recommendations greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mark

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Text Messages, If Only

2013-10-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I just want to make certain I'm not missing something.  As of iOS 7.0.3,
there is still no way to save, lock, or organize SMS messages, right?  

I keep reading all these articles that talk about all the new features in
iOS 7 but there does not appear to be anything new about preserving text
messages.  

I know of an app called Copy Trans that allows one to back up SMS but I do
not know of one that allows one to read saved SMS messages on the iOS
device, itself..  

If anyone knows of anything like this, I would greatly appreciate hearing
about it.

Thank you,

Mark


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RE: To do list

2013-10-31 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Alex,

The native Reminders app can, indeed, sync just fine with MS Outlook 2007 or
later on a Windows computer.

I have all of my iCloud data being synced with both my Mac and my Windows
computers.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To do list

The native Reminders app can have both timed and un-timed reminders. It can
sync with Macs, but I don't know about Windows devices. Still, give it a
try. To sort things, just create new lists. I have several lists, and even a
shopping list my family shares so that we can all add to and check items off
on that list and our changes sync to the rest of the family members' iOS
devices and Macs.
On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, all. I am still having problems finding the to do list that I want.
Perhaps what I am looking for is not out there, but I am hoping it is.
 
 Third, one desirable feature would be to put tasks in categories such as
job-related, household, etc. This anyone know if such a possibility exists?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am sure I making this way too difficult. :-)
 
 Keith
 
 First of all, I do not want to have to associate each task with a specific
date and time. I want the opportunity to set reminders as needed with
specific times, but I also want a simple to do list where I can check off
tasks as they are accomplished. 
 
 
 I would like to be able to sync this list between the phone and the
computer. I would prefer the use of the Microsoft exchange server, but would
except something like dropbox or the cloud, if I could find a task list that
was fully accessible.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: To do list

2013-10-31 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Keith,  

Siri is excellent at adding reminders to whatever ToDo list you have setup.


For instance, I have created a ToDo list called Groceries.  This list lives
in iCloud so I have access to it from anywhere on any of my devices.

Now, when I want to add an item to my groceries list via Siri, I simply say
to Siri, Add milk to Groceries list or Add milk to my groceries list.

It's really that simple.  

By the way, to the Windows users out there, The Groceries list is merely a
named Task list that will appear in the iCloud section of the Outlook tree
assuming you have installed the iCloud add-in to MS Outlook 2007 or later.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Keith Bundy
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To do list

Thanks, Alex. I was unaware of being able to set a reminder without a time.
Well, come to think of it, I think I know how to do it from the keyboard,
but can it be done using Siri? When I think of something to do, I often just
grab my phone and tell Siri to remind me of what it is.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The native Reminders app can have both timed and un-timed reminders. It
can sync with Macs, but I don't know about Windows devices. Still, give it a
try. To sort things, just create new lists. I have several lists, and even a
shopping list my family shares so that we can all add to and check items off
on that list and our changes sync to the rest of the family members' iOS
devices and Macs.
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, all. I am still having problems finding the to do list that I
want. Perhaps what I am looking for is not out there, but I am hoping it is.
 
 Third, one desirable feature would be to put tasks in categories such as
job-related, household, etc. This anyone know if such a possibility exists?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am sure I making this way too difficult. :-)
 
 Keith
 
 First of all, I do not want to have to associate each task with a
specific date and time. I want the opportunity to set reminders as needed
with specific times, but I also want a simple to do list where I can check
off tasks as they are accomplished. 
 
 
 I would like to be able to sync this list between the phone and the
computer. I would prefer the use of the Microsoft exchange server, but would
except something like dropbox or the cloud, if I could find a task list that
was fully accessible.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Text Messages, If Only

2013-11-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Alan,

As always, it's good to hear from you.

No apologies necessaries.  

Allow me to explain.  

When you open the native iOS Messaging app, you are placed in the Inbox
which consist of Contact-Recipient based SMS conversation threads, similar
to the conversation view in many popular email clients.  

While you can delete, forward, and reply to various portions of the SMS
thread, unlike in an email client or the Android OS, you cannot create
custom-named folders, such as Important, Music, Pets, Proof of Payment, etc,
in which to store various conversations.  Further, there is no way, at least
not one of which I am aware, to lock a thread or in some way prevent it from
being accidentally deleted.

These days, more and more people are using SMS to both verify payments,
confirm contracts, and prove intent in a court of law.

In my opinion, this is yet another area where Apple needs to play catch-up
with Android.  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messages, If Only

I don't understand your question.  On my iPhone 4 and on my iPhone 5s, all I
need to do is to open Messages  In messages are folders.  Within those
folders are the text messages received and sent by a particular person. 
Each person I text with gets their own folder.  I can edit that folder and
delete  messages or delete the folder.  So I'm missing something here or
your referring to something else totally and I've missed the thread and if
that's the case I apologize in advance.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
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- Original Message -
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:01 PM
Subject: Text Messages, If Only


 Hello Everyone,

 I just want to make certain I'm not missing something.  As of iOS 7.0.3,
 there is still no way to save, lock, or organize SMS messages, right?

 I keep reading all these articles that talk about all the new features in
 iOS 7 but there does not appear to be anything new about preserving text
 messages.

 I know of an app called Copy Trans that allows one to back up SMS but I do
 not know of one that allows one to read saved SMS messages on the iOS
 device, itself..

 If anyone knows of anything like this, I would greatly appreciate hearing
 about it.

 Thank you,

 Mark


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A Quick FaceBook App Question

2013-11-02 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Okay, I think I'm getting the hang of facebook, slowly, very, very slowly.  

Here is my question, is there a VoiceOver gesture to refresh my news feed in
the Facebook app?  I thought that in order to refresh a page, one performed
a three-finger swipe down from the top of the display.  

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: Locking iPhone in portrait mode

2013-11-02 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Brian,

In iOS 7.x, open Control Center.  You will see the option to toggle lock
orientation on or off.  There are two ways to open the Control Center.  

The first way is to:
Place focus on the Status bar at the top of the display.  Next, perform a
three-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen.

The second way, which is my favorite, is to:
Perform a single-finger long-tap near either the top edged or the bottom
edge of the display until a double-pop is heard.  Next, simply perform a
single-finger swipe up on the display.

In iOS 6.x
Double-press the Home button in order to launch the list of running
applications.  At the extreme left side of this list, which will be located
at the bottom of the screen, you will see the lock orientation option.

Good Luck,

Mark





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Miller
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Locking iPhone in portrait mode

All,
My apologies for asking something that gets asked with some regularity, and
I know we've had a discussion on this regarding the iPad recently, but my
iPhone 5 somehow got unlocked in terms of its orientation, and I can't for
the life of me figure out how I locked it into portrait mode in the first
place... I've upgraded to IOS7, by the way, and that didn't help.  I tried
to lock it under IOS6 too, and no luck... Any help is much appreciated!
Having voiceover tell me the phone orientation every thirteen seconds is
getting a little old.

Brian Miller

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RE: getting turn-by-turn walking directions with Apple Maps

2013-11-02 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Anna, 

It is necessary to tap the Start button, located at the upper right of the
display in order to get verbal turn-by-turn directions.  

Did you tap the Start button?

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: getting turn-by-turn walking directions with Apple Maps

Hello,

I tried twice today to get turn-by-turn walking directions using Apple Maps,
but while the app listed good directions and a travel time that indicated
they were walking directions, I wasn't told when to make turns. I opened
Settings/Maps and chose Walking Directions. Then I opened Maps, chose
Directions, and entered start and end locations. Then I chose Route. I
confirmed that Voice Directions was set to normal volume. Is there anything
else you need to do to get this to work? I had the screen locked while
walking, but I thought this was supposed to work even when the screen is
locked. I'm using an iPhone 5S with iOS 7.0.3.

Thanks,
Anna

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RE: getting turn-by-turn walking directions with Apple Maps

2013-11-02 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Anna,

You know, it's funny, I've never intentionally locked the screen when using
any GPS app.  

I'll take a short walk tomorrow and test it out, as I am certain you will
do, as well.  

The only GPS application that continues to give turn-by-turn navigation, in
the background at least, that I've used is A T  T Navigator.  

I did install Google Maps on my phone a while ago but found that I prefer A
T  T Navigator and the native iOS GPS solutions.  My biggest issue with
Google Maps is that there is no Repeat button.  So, unless you are
sighted, there is no way to either confirm or have the TTS repeat its last
instruction.  

Despite countless request for this feature, as far as I know, Google has not
addressed this issue.  

As a side note, about 3 months ago I created a route on both my iPhone 4 S
and my Android phone both using Google Maps.  I wanted to see if there was
any significant difference in the app's performance.  

So, I started out on my route with Android in one pocket and iOS in the
other.  They were virtually identical.  As I traveled, it felt as though I
were hearing the instructions in stereo from two twins sisters.  It was a
lot of fun.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting turn-by-turn walking directions with Apple Maps

Hi Mark,

Yes, I pressed the Start button. Is it true that you have to keep the screen
unlocked the whole time?

Thanks,
Anna



On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Anna,
 
 It is necessary to tap the Start button, located at the upper right of 
 the display in order to get verbal turn-by-turn directions.
 
 Did you tap the Start button?
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
 Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 9:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: getting turn-by-turn walking directions with Apple Maps
 
 Hello,
 
 I tried twice today to get turn-by-turn walking directions using Apple 
 Maps, but while the app listed good directions and a travel time that 
 indicated they were walking directions, I wasn't told when to make 
 turns. I opened Settings/Maps and chose Walking Directions. Then I 
 opened Maps, chose Directions, and entered start and end locations. 
 Then I chose Route. I confirmed that Voice Directions was set to 
 normal volume. Is there anything else you need to do to get this to 
 work? I had the screen locked while walking, but I thought this was 
 supposed to work even when the screen is locked. I'm using an iPhone 5S
with iOS 7.0.3.
 
 Thanks,
 Anna
 
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A Question About Clearing The Notification Tab area in the Facebook App

2013-11-03 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

I posted a comment to Facebook using the Facebook app.

A while later, I touched the Facebook icon on the iPhone and it said I had
one unread message.  

I opened the app and selected the Notification tab near the bottom of the
screen.  

I read the notification and then I double-tapped on it.  At this point I was
taken to the original message complete with the comments.  Excellent.  

Now, the question is how do I clear the notification area in the app?  Even
though I read the notification, when I close the app and relaunch, the old
message is still in the area.

I'm very confused.  

Thank you for any help on this.

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RE: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Katey,

While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people who
have.  

A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
following:  

Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
cloud--especially in this kind of situation.  

1.
Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

2.
From the Settings menu, select General.

3.
Select Reset.

4.
Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

5.
Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the Rotor
until this bug is resolved.  

6.
From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

7.
Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should be
able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

8.
Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your latest
backup.  

If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
extent that it engages the bug.  

Good Luck,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Hello all,

Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
90%.

IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  

So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s
so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
of the roter?  

Any help and insights would be appreciated.  

Katey

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RE: iCloud Control Panel window seven

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Conrad,  

Your question is unclear in that your subject line already states the answer
to your question.  That is, you must install and configure the Windows
iCloud Control Panel in order to sync iCloud data to and from your PC.  

Please keep in mind that you must also have MS Outlook 2007 or later
installed on the same PC.  Assuming that you have 
Outlook up and running, the iCloud control panel will detect Outlook and
provide the necessary options.  

In Outlook make sure you have Folder Lists being displayed instead of the
usual Shortcuts list.  You will know that the Control Panel is working when
you see an iCloud parent folder appear in the Folder Tree on the left side
of the Outlook window.

It is sometimes necessary to uninstall and re-install the Windows iCloud
Control Panel in order to get the Control Panel to detect your Outlook
account.  

I had to uninstall and re-install twice, a couple of months ago in order to
get it working on my newest 64-bit version of Windows 7.  

Finally, if your PC is connecting to the Cloud wirelessly, depending upon
the amount of data to be synced, it may take some time in order to see the
data appear in Outlook.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Apple has not focused enough attention on
keeping this Control Panel updated with the various updates to Windows so
getting it to work is kind of a black art.  In short, it takes due
diligence.  

Hang in There,

Mark 
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Of Conrad Bennett
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:45 PM
To: Google Groups viphone
Subject: iCloud Control Panel window seven

How do I sink contacts from Outlook iCloud to my iPhone continuously? thanks
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RE: A Question About Clearing The Notification Tab area in the Facebook App

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Chris,

I opened the App and there is one notification listed in the notification
section of the app.  

When I double-tapped the Messages tab, located just to the left of the
Notifications Tab, I am placed in the messages area where I am told that I
don't have any messages.  

F Y I:
When I log into my Facebook account on my PC, and Click the Notifications
icon located in the upper right corner of the browser window, I see the same
notification listed.

Very curious.

There must be some way to clear this area.

Please keep in mind that the icon badge on my phone is no longer saying that
I have one unread notification.  

Simply stated, I just like to keep my various lists clear of clutter.  And
it seems to me that once a notification has been seen and/or acted upon, one
should be able to delete it; just like we can do with regard to text
messages.  

I hope I'm being clear.

All I want to do is clear out old notifications.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Clearing The Notification Tab area in the
Facebook App

Double tap messages and the notification should go away.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 04/11/2013 05:28, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello All,

 I posted a comment to Facebook using the Facebook app.

 A while later, I touched the Facebook icon on the iPhone and it said I 
 had one unread message.

 I opened the app and selected the Notification tab near the bottom of 
 the screen.

 I read the notification and then I double-tapped on it.  At this point 
 I was taken to the original message complete with the comments.
Excellent.

 Now, the question is how do I clear the notification area in the app?  
 Even though I read the notification, when I close the app and 
 relaunch, the old message is still in the area.

 I'm very confused.

 Thank you for any help on this.

 Mark




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RE: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Katey,

I strongly suspect that the glitch is one that is located in the software.

If you don't mind putting all your settings back again, definitely skip step
8.

I’m not certain if restoring the phone will put VO back in the rotor.  If it
does, then just remove it.  

Restoring the phone may set the volume level to its previous setting but it
should not expose the glitch.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Mark,

Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone with
my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back in the
rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was thinking of
doing was exactly what you said, going to settings general reset and the
first option reset all settings.  I know that all my accessibility settings
as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my 4s will be gone (and all
papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset them -- I still have my
4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and put back the ones I
want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I want to know is this a
software or hardware bug?  
Thanks again,  Katey 
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
Hi Katey,

While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people who
have.

A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
following:

Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

1.
Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

2.
From the Settings menu, select General.

3.
Select Reset.

4.
Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

5.
Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the Rotor
until this bug is resolved.

6.
From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

7.
Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should be
able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

8.
Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your latest
backup.

If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
extent that it engages the bug.

Good Luck,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Hello all,

Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
90%.

IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.

So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s
so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
of the roter?

Any help and insights would be appreciated.

Katey

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RE: Siri

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Tom,

I'm jumping in a bit late on this one so please forgive any redundant
information.  

Whenever I have a problem with Siri, the first thing I do is:

1.
Turn Siri off from within the Settings area of the device then,

2.
Turn it back on.

Mark





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri

Beverly, 
I have had the same issues. I also can not use the dictation feature, of
course.
I have tried restarting, and other things, but still a no go.

Thom
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Beverly
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri

For the past 2 days, Siri hasn't been able to fill any of my requests. I
keep getting the message I'm really sorry about this but I can't take any
requests right now. Please try again in a little while. Has anyone else had
this problem? I have turned the phone off and on again, but that didn't seem
to fix anything.
 
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RE: iPhone saying Locked more than twice

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Esther et al,

I, too, have experienced this phenomenon.  

I strongly suspect that this has something to do with the way the device is
refreshing either its WiFi or cell connection.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone saying Locked more than twice

Hi, Neal,

I also have noticed this.  I'd have the phone locked for some time and out
of the blue, I'll hear the message screen locked when I haven't used it
for a while.  Glad I'm not the only one.  Smiles!

Esther Levegnale

Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!

On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
Hi, we have already covered the fact that in the newest iOS, VoiceOver says
locked twice. But occasionally, I will be sitting here with the phone locked
an hour or so after I have used it and it will once again say Locked. I have
heard no notifications that would cause the phone to do anything but stay in
locked mode. Has anyone else had this issue?
 
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RE: Completely silent iPhone

2013-11-05 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Lisa,

Strangely enough, this exact same thing happened to me about 2 days ago.  I
pressed the power button to check the time, I think, and then lost VoiceOver
completely.  

Nothing I did would bring VoiceOver back.  I can't be certain, because it
was in the middle of the night and I was extremely sleepy, but I think the
phone was frozen, also.  That is, no hand gestures worked and pressing the
power button, again, did nothing.  

Finally, I reset the phone by pressing and holding the Home and Power
buttons for about 12 seconds.  When the phone restarted, VoiceOver was
working normally.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lisa belville
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 5:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Completely silent iPhone

Okay, just to verify, this would set VO back to some kind of default?  Just
checking because I can't tell if the screen is lit up or not.


if shopping burned calories I'd be invisible!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Completely silent iPhone


I would try a reset. Hold the home and power buttons for about 10 seconds. 
This should force a reboot.
On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:28 AM, Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com 
wrote:

 Hi, all.

 Using an iPhone 5 with the 7.03 OS.

 My phone was working fine as of around 12:30 this morning.  the last thing

 I did was check the weather and then replace the phone on my bedside 
 table. It's programmed to lock after three minutes.  The phone wasn't on 
 the charger because the battery was at around 80% the last time I checked.

 a couple of hours later, I tried checking the time by pressing the home 
 button once and got no speech at all.  I tried using SIRI and got no audio

 feedback.  I tried plugging the phone in even though I know the battery is

 about three quarters full.  I did here the phone tell me the battery was 
 at 75% and charging and then the phone went silent again.  I tried 
 pressing the home button and flicking the mute switch and the phone didn't

 vibrate.

 I've also tried using Bluetooth headphones and an external Bluetooth 
 speaker which have been paired with the phone for a while but I'm still 
 not hearing noises or speech.

 I now have the phone connected to my PC and according to iTunes, all is 
 well,  I made sure VO was running through the configure accessibility 
 menu, but still no speech.  I did feel the phone vibrate about 2 minutes 
 ago, but I'm not sure what this means as the battery isn't finished 
 charging.

 I've tried using my Bluetooth keyboard to mute/unmute, but still nothing.

 I've tried the triple click home several times and haven't gotten any 
 speech at all after that initial announcement of the charging battery.  I 
 also tried the three finger double tap and heard no indication of speech 
 being turned on or off.

 I don't think this is a case of volume being turned down as I could hear 
 the phone just fine when it talked last.

 I haven't dropped the phone or dropped my Bluetooth keyboard; the phone 
 was just sitting on my nightstand so I have no clue what caused this. 
 Like I said, it was working fine yesterday and once earlier this morning.

 I have no sighted help here and won't have any for a couple of days.  If I

 restore the phone, will I get the default volume settings back?


 TIA for the help.

 Lisa

 If shopping burned calories I'd be invisible!
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RE: still no wifi

2013-11-05 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Regina,

I'm on my way out of the house so cannot go into details as to possible
fixes but this is a known issue that has to do with the physical radio chip
on the device.  

If you have not resolved the problem by later tonight, post to the list and
I will give you some possible solutions.  Of course, Google is replete with
possible fixes on this.

I'm assuming your device is an iPhone 4, or 4 S?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

Well, I think my iPhone is possessed. I still have no wifi, all the things
suggested done including resetting all settings. When I asked Siri to turn
my wifi on, she said she did it, but then when I then asked her to turn it
ouf to see if there was any difference in the status bar, she told me wifi
was already off. Now when I tap the home button 3 times, it says app
switcher, but it is not in the app switcher. Cannot turn off VO any longer.
OMG, what in the world happened? I used it last night and it was fine. Now
it will not even reset? 
screaming in frustration and worry somehow I broke it and I have a month
until I can upgrade


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
wrote:

I assume you've tried asking siri to turn WI-FI on?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: still no wifi


This is driving me crazy! I have tried every reset except to literally
restore the phone. It worked on wifi last night fine. Is there a reset I can
do to just take iPhone out of wifi and reinstall it without doing a total
restore? Computers and iPad fine. My wifi is dimmed! Help, and thanks for
any help in advance. Seems iPhone in many ways has decided to give us a rumn
for the money!



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RE: still no wifi

2013-11-05 Thread M. Taylor
Regina,

Which iPhone do you have?  

Your previous message got cut off.

See below.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

My phone is a 


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

Hello Regina,

4s. Thanks for any help. I'm on my way out of the house so cannot go into
details as to possible fixes but this is a known issue that has to do with
the physical radio chip on the device.  

If you have not resolved the problem by later tonight, post to the list and
I will give you some possible solutions.  Of course, Google is replete with
possible fixes on this.

I'm assuming your device is an iPhone 4, or 4 S?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

Well, I think my iPhone is possessed. I still have no wifi, all the things
suggested done including resetting all settings. When I asked Siri to turn
my wifi on, she said she did it, but then when I then asked her to turn it
ouf to see if there was any difference in the status bar, she told me wifi
was already off. Now when I tap the home button 3 times, it says app
switcher, but it is not in the app switcher. Cannot turn off VO any longer.
OMG, what in the world happened? I used it last night and it was fine. Now
it will not even reset? 
screaming in frustration and worry somehow I broke it and I have a month
until I can upgrade


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
wrote:

I assume you've tried asking siri to turn WI-FI on?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: still no wifi


This is driving me crazy! I have tried every reset except to literally
restore the phone. It worked on wifi last night fine. Is there a reset I can
do to just take iPhone out of wifi and reinstall it without doing a total
restore? Computers and iPad fine. My wifi is dimmed! Help, and thanks for
any help in advance. Seems iPhone in many ways has decided to give us a rumn
for the money!



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RE: still no wifi

2013-11-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Regina,

I am so sorry to hear that your 4 S is still not working.  Rest assured that
this is consistent with a known issue regarding the 4 and the 4 S although
the problem seems to be more prevalent on the 4 S.  

Apparently, according to various sources on the web, Apple used a more
cheaply made WiFi chip in some of it's 4 S devices.  

A friend of mine had this problem with her 4 S last month.  

We resolved the issue by, as I learned from Google, simply renaming her
phone making sure not to use an apostrophe in the name.  So, for example,
instead of the name being Regina's, iPhone 4 S it would be Regina  4 S.

You can rename your phone in iTunes or on the device itself.  To rename the
phone on the device, itself, do the following:  

1.
From the Settings menu, select General.  

2.
Select About Phone.  The first item you will see is the name of the phone,
which is a button.  Simply activate the button and rename the phone.  

Next, turn off the phone.  

Then, Reboot your Wifi router.

Finally power on the phone.

Hopefully, this will get you up and running.

Regina, resolving this issue via software is a black art.  For some people
it will work and for others it will not.  

As I stated yesterday, there are plenty of suggestions on how to get this
working again but, keep in mind, there are no guarantees.  

Finally, if you do not have Apple Care on the phone and it is out of
warranty, you will have to pay in order to get it repaired.

Please understand that you did nothing to cause this malfunction.

Most Sincerely,

Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

It is a 4s Mark. Still not working this morning! 


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:50 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

Regina,

Which iPhone do you have?  

Your previous message got cut off.

See below.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

My phone is a 


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

Hello Regina,

4s. Thanks for any help. I'm on my way out of the house so cannot go into
details as to possible fixes but this is a known issue that has to do with
the physical radio chip on the device.  

If you have not resolved the problem by later tonight, post to the list and
I will give you some possible solutions.  Of course, Google is replete with
possible fixes on this.

I'm assuming your device is an iPhone 4, or 4 S?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: still no wifi

Well, I think my iPhone is possessed. I still have no wifi, all the things
suggested done including resetting all settings. When I asked Siri to turn
my wifi on, she said she did it, but then when I then asked her to turn it
ouf to see if there was any difference in the status bar, she told me wifi
was already off. Now when I tap the home button 3 times, it says app
switcher, but it is not in the app switcher. Cannot turn off VO any longer.
OMG, what in the world happened? I used it last night and it was fine. Now
it will not even reset? 
screaming in frustration and worry somehow I broke it and I have a month
until I can upgrade


reggie and Allegra

On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
wrote:

I assume you've tried asking siri to turn WI-FI on?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: still no wifi


This is driving me crazy! I have tried every reset except to literally
restore the phone. It worked on wifi last night fine. Is there a reset I can
do to just take iPhone out of wifi and reinstall it without doing a total
restore? Computers and iPad fine. My wifi is dimmed! Help, and thanks for
any help in advance. Seems iPhone in many ways has decided to give us a rumn
for the money!



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RE: no wifi or bluetooth and no triple tap home, grrr

2013-11-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Regina,

Please try not to be unhappy.  I, as do many others on this list, truly
understand about failed technology.

Last month, I lost both my router and one of my network attached storage
devices, taking with it over half a terabyte of data.  

But, sooner or later, things do get better.

In one month you will have a new iPhone that you are going to adore.  

I've seen so many reports of people having this dimmed WiFi button issue,
lately, on their 4 S phones.  It's so coincidental that it would occur at
the launch of what is, effectively, a new era on the iOS platform.  

Hang In There,

Mark  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no wifi or bluetooth and no triple tap home, grrr

So unhappy! I still get no wifi and cannot turn on bluetooth. I also cannot
triple tap home! One month before I can upgrade. Go figure!




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RE: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine

2013-11-09 Thread M. Taylor
Beautifully stated, Sieghard.  

Sounds like you did some serious tech support.  Regina was very fortunate to
have you walk her through that extremely stressful process.

Hopefully she will be up and running soon.

It's good to know that there are people, like you, who are willing to really
jump in there and dig in.

Most Sincerely,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine

Hi Anthony,

Sorry if I disagree, but cleaning your house or taking care of non-existing
children does not solve WiFi issues. I think you really can't generalize
this the way you do.

Reggie has a real and I mean real issue with her iPhone not connecting to
her WiFi and if your iPhone did that I am sure you would not decide to clean
your house in the hope it would fix the WiFi. I am saying this because I
talked to Reggie on the phone because the issue intriqued me and I was
hoping I could help her resolve it.

I heard Voiceover talking on her iPhone while we were talking on Facetime
Audio on her iPad which, by the way, connected happily to her WiFi.
I started out by getting her to remove all apps from her app switcher and
then to reboot the phone. This did not help.
The interesting thing is that if Reggie pulled up the control centre (she is
using a 4S with iOS 7.03, she can double tap WiFi and Bluetooth and it says
for both item that they are On. 
However, if she then goes into Settings, Bluetooth, it says Bluetooth is
off. If she goes to Settings, WiFi, it says WiFi is Off and on top of that
it says that the On/Off button is dimmed.
Next I asked Reggie to go to General, Reset and to double tap on Reset
Network Settings.
She did that and, by the way, Reggie seems to be a rather competent iPhone
user, and after the phone rebooted the problem was still there.
This left a factory reboot.
I asked Reggie to hook the iPhone up to her computer. We did an encrypted
backup and then started the restore process.
Once it was going I had to leave her with it since I had to get back to
work, but Reggie ended up finishing a factory restore and set up her phone
as a new device. I told her to try that first since she can restore from her
backup any time and I wanted to avoid a problem coming back because of a
corrupt backup.
Reggie later texted me that she completed the factory restore and the issue
was still there, she is not only unable to as much as turn on her WiFi let
along connect to a network, but even Bluetooth will not turn on.
In my book this is clearly a Hardwear issue and I believe that Reggie is
fortunately still covered by Apple Care and in any case plans to upgrade to
a 5S soon. However, it also is an example where a user has donew everything
possible to solve the issue and where the issue seems to be clearly a
Hardwear defect.

I haven't heard yet from Reggie as she was trying to line up a ride to an
Apple Store to see if they would replace her phone, but hopefully that was
the case. I consider myself to be somebody who knows what he is talking
about most of the time, and if this was my iPhone 4S I would certainly be on
the horn with Apple trying to get a replacement and I doubt washing her
floors would have fixed the problem *smile*


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine

I just never heard of so many people having so many problems.

I can't help but wonder how so many people are responsible for causing there
own problems.
If something is working, don't fix it.

Put the phone down and, do other things, I mean I know our phones do a lot
of tasks but, go clean your house or, take care of your children.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

 On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote:
 
 Regina,
 You might try resetting your modem and router.  I have had incidences 
 in which some of the many wifi devices around here get kicked off of 
 wifi and they won't go back on it.  During that same time, other 
 devices work fine on wifi.  When this happens, I turn off the router 
 and modem, for a minute or two, and turn them back on.  It usually 
 works
for me.
 HTH,
 Scott Duck
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
 Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
 
 Yes, in fact I did the reset twice, but thanks for the suggestion. 
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Did you do a reset of your phone?
 
 Hold down the power button and the 

FaceBook App Update Not Updating

2013-11-09 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I'm not certain if this has been posted but just in case it has not, as of
the date and time of this post, the most recent version of the Facebook app,
version 6.7.1 will not download from the app store.  Apparently, Facebook
submitted a corrupted cover art image with the app and the Apple servers are
not happy about it.  

So, should you, like apparently thousands of people around the world,
attempt to update your current version of the Facebook app and get an update
error message, just close the Dialog box containing the error message and
then cancel the download.  This will allow you to continue to use your
currently installed version of the app.

Mark, 

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RE: The Square root of IOS7

2013-11-09 Thread M. Taylor
Richard, this is  an excellent suggestion.  

I never would have thought of it.  

I don't know if your suggestion resolved the issue but I applaud your
critical thinking.

Mark 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7

I've seen things where a symbol or two is read very oddly, but nothing like
what you are describing.

Have you checked what the wall paper is in your settings?  It almost sounds
like you have some geometric pattern that is confusing VoiceOver.

Also, in settings, general, accessibility, try turning on reduce motion,
which stops the new feature of having the background animated.

For any low-vision users out there, I saw a tip about taking a picture of
something black like the side of a filing cabinet and then making that
picture your wall paper to improve the contrast.
Or, I suppose if one prefers a light background, taking a picture of a blank
sheet of paper would do the same thing.

HTH,
Richard


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Subject: The Square root of IOS7

All,

I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine
and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long
strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred
times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols.  

This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of
the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a
bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort.
This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless.  

I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set
it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue.  

I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to
see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new
landscape of IOS?  Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to
interact with my screen?  Or is there just something wrong with my specific
phone...

Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation
is extremely frustrating.  It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy
technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it.  

Thank you so much.

Brian Miller
Alexandria, VA


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RE: FaceBook App Update Not Updating

2013-11-09 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Victor,

Yes, my Facebook app finally updated as well.  It was just a major glitch
Facebook had this time around with the update.  

Last night, the web was all a buzz with people discussing/complaining about
the glitch.  It was a bit weird.  

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceBook App Update Not Updating

Hello Mark, I updated to version 6.7.1,  and it went well, I am using an
iPhone 5s, running iOS 7 03.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 9, 2013, at 1:10 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I'm not certain if this has been posted but just in case it has not, 
 as of the date and time of this post, the most recent version of the 
 Facebook app, version 6.7.1 will not download from the app store.  
 Apparently, Facebook submitted a corrupted cover art image with the 
 app and the Apple servers are not happy about it.
 
 So, should you, like apparently thousands of people around the world, 
 attempt to update your current version of the Facebook app and get an 
 update error message, just close the Dialog box containing the error 
 message and then cancel the download.  This will allow you to continue 
 to use your currently installed version of the app.
 
 Mark,
 
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RE: The Square root of IOS7

2013-11-10 Thread M. Taylor
Brian,  

Having Apple give you a new phone is as good as it gets.  

I'm curious, did VoiceOver read these strange symbols while you were in the
Apple store? That is to say, did a Apple Genius witness the problem?

I would give anything to have another VoiceOver user play with your phone to
see if the same phenomena occurs.  

I'm not suggesting anything, mind you, just thinking, on-list, as it were.  

Do me a favor, assuming that VoiceOver did not read weird symbols in the
Apple store, take your new device to a different location from where you are
experiencing this symbol reading problem; say a coffee shop, a supermarket,
any place and see what happens.  

Do you have any kind of screen protector on the phone?  If so, remove it.
Also, make sure the device is not housed in any kind of case.  Finally, make
sure you are not using any kind of Bluetooth or third-party accessory.

Keep us posted.

Mark


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Of Brian Miller
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7

Hi,

So I went a third time and they gave me a new phone... and... Same problem.
I still get the symbols.

I am utterly baffled.

I go to the bottom of the screen and I flick left through safari, mail,
phone, and then I get the string of symbols... one more flick left and more
symbols, then I get compass.  With a flick back right I get settings and
then symnbols again... It makes no sense.  And this is just one example.  It
is littered throughout all of my apps.  I've reset from scratch, and have a
brand new phone now and I still haven't escaped this issue.

Can I really be the only one?

Brian M


On 11/9/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always 
 has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded 
 mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be 
 littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root 
 repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other 
 nonsensical symbols.

 This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of 
 bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick 
 back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but 
 only with some effort.
 This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless.

 I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone 
 and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue.

 I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I 
 wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is 
 this just the new landscape of IOS?  Do I have to put up with all 
 this garbage in order to interact with my screen?  Or is there just 
 something wrong with my specific phone...

 Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this 
 situation is extremely frustrating.  It reminds me of how fragile our 
 spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it.

 Thank you so much.

 Brian Miller
 Alexandria, VA


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RE: TV Guide

2013-11-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Les and Melissa,

I use the TV Guide app on a daily basis.  I have the latest version running
on iOS 7.0.3.

We, that is to say VoiceOver users, can still change the date and time with
no problem.

The only VoiceOver challenge issue is that the menu button is not properly
labeled.  The menu button is located in the upper left corner of the
display.  VoiceOver reads this menu as Nav 7 Menu.  

To change the date and time of the channel listings grid:

1.
Locate the text that says Change Date and Time.  Even though it does not
read as a button, it is, in fact, a button.  This text/button is located
just below the iOS Status line near the center.

2.
Perform a single-finger double-tap on the Change date and time
text/button.  Visually, doing this causes the Change date and time tickers
to appear in the same location as the software keyboard, when sending a text
message.  That is to say, the lower half of the display.  At the same time,
the upper part of the screen is nearly dimmed.  It's a cool effect.  

If, however, you touch the upper part of the screen, while using VoiceOver,
VoiceOver will read the channel grid in that area because, technically, it
is still being displayed.  

All VoiceOver users need do is simply place focus in the lower half of the
display and they will have complete access to the ticker.  Once the desired
settings are configured:

3.
Simply double-tap the Go button which is located in the same location as the
Send button, when sending a text message.

Finally, double-tapping an actual channel number in the grid will take you
to that single channel's upcoming programming.

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark

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Of Melissa 
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TV Guide

There was an update on Friday for the TV Guide app, which set some of their
accessibility back a few steps.  Since this update, moving backwards in the
days listings doesn't seem to work, and it does keep refreshing,
particularly when one tries to move backwards in the listings.
You used to be able to change the date and time listing you are viewing by
double tapping on the time in the top center of the screen.  This would
bring up a selection list, where you could swipe up or down with one finger
to change the setting.
By double tapping on a channel's name/number, you can view listings
specifically for that channel for several weeks ahead.
Warm regards,
Melissa

Melissa Riley
jamand...@izoom.net
riley...@umn.edu


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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: TV Guide

I have the latest update running under IOS 7.03.  I can only view the
current day's program.  Is there a way to change the date being viewed?
Also, I recently noticed that while swiping through the day's events, the
screen often refreshes and I am taken back to the beginning of that day's
listing.  Can this be eliminated?  Thanks.

Les

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RE: Siri Not Able to Complete Calls

2013-11-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Bill,

Were I you, I would:

1.
Sign out of Siri, reboot the phone, then sign back in, again.  See if that
fixes the problem.

2.
Take a good look at the telephone numbers in my Contacts making sure that
there are no extraneous spaces or characters included.  Though rare, it is
possible for extraneous characters to be inserted in Contact telephone
numbers.  See if you can now use Siri to make a call.

3.
Create a test Contact with one phone number and attempt to call that
Contact.

Mark

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Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:02 PM
To: List, viPhone
Subject: Siri Not Able to Complete Calls

I suspect that I've got something terribly wrong on my iPhone 5 (iOS  7.0.3)
because when I ask Siri to call someone by name (from the Contacts list) I
get an error message that that cannot be done.  Yet, if I ask Siri to call a
specified telephone number it is completed without fail.

Where can I start trying to resolve this problem?

Holland's Boy, Bill
- Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes.
- Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought movement,
1883-1970 

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RE: FaceBook App Update Not Updating

2013-11-10 Thread M. Taylor
Glad you're up and running with the latest update, Sharonda.

Mark

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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceBook App Update Not Updating

Well wouldn't you know! As soon as I wrote the message about not being able
to  update, I closed  all the apps and shut down. When I rebooted, Facebook
updated just fine.

Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

 On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I have the iPhone 5 and cannot update to Facebook version 6.7.1. It's been
that way for at least two days.
 
 Sharonda
 
 Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes
 
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Victor Hugo Gallegos
hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Mark, I updated to version 6.7.1,  and it went well, I am using an
iPhone 5s, running iOS 7 03.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 1:10 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I'm not certain if this has been posted but just in case it has not, 
 as of the date and time of this post, the most recent version of the 
 Facebook app, version 6.7.1 will not download from the app store.  
 Apparently, Facebook submitted a corrupted cover art image with the 
 app and the Apple servers are not happy about it.
 
 So, should you, like apparently thousands of people around the 
 world, attempt to update your current version of the Facebook app 
 and get an update error message, just close the Dialog box 
 containing the error message and then cancel the download.  This 
 will allow you to continue to use your currently installed version of
the app.
 
 Mark,
 
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RE: TV Guide

2013-11-11 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Les,

You're more than welcomed.

With Sports selected, there is no option to change the date and time.  This
is not a VoiceOver glitch.  This option does not appear on the screen
because, based on my cursory exploration of the Sports view, it lists all
the events for a particular day.  

I suggest that you select Listings from the navigation menu, then change the
date and time, then switch back to Sports.  This may allow you to accomplish
your objective.

As an F Y I, just as there is a navigation menu in the upper left corner of
the display, there is also a filter secondary button located in the upper
right corner.  VoiceOver reads this button as Nav 7 Filter.  With Listings
selected from the main navigation menu, you can then activate the filter
button to streamline what type of items are displayed.  For example, I only
have my favorite channels displayed in the channel listings view.  This
saves me a lot of time as there are over 600 channels in my viewing area.  

The nice thing is, assuming you have setup a free TV Guide account, your
favorite channels are synced between whatever device is using the TV Guide
app, the web version of the site and the cloud.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TV Guide

Hi Mark,

I appreciate the assist.  Thus far, I am unable to locate the Change Date
and Time text.  Here's what I've done.
1.  I have Sports selected as the default view when I launch the App.

2.  I locate the Menu 7 Button and do a single finger double tap.

3.  I start exploring the screen just below the Status Barr.  So far, I
don't ever locate any text that says Change Date and Time.
What am I missing?  Thanks again.

Les
On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:04 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Les and Melissa,
 
 I use the TV Guide app on a daily basis.  I have the latest version 
 running on iOS 7.0.3.
 
 We, that is to say VoiceOver users, can still change the date and time 
 with no problem.
 
 The only VoiceOver challenge issue is that the menu button is not 
 properly labeled.  The menu button is located in the upper left corner 
 of the display.  VoiceOver reads this menu as Nav 7 Menu.
 
 To change the date and time of the channel listings grid:
 
 1.
 Locate the text that says Change Date and Time.  Even though it does 
 not read as a button, it is, in fact, a button.  This text/button is 
 located just below the iOS Status line near the center.
 
 2.
 Perform a single-finger double-tap on the Change date and time
 text/button.  Visually, doing this causes the Change date and time 
 tickers to appear in the same location as the software keyboard, when 
 sending a text message.  That is to say, the lower half of the 
 display.  At the same time, the upper part of the screen is nearly dimmed.
It's a cool effect.
 
 If, however, you touch the upper part of the screen, while using 
 VoiceOver, VoiceOver will read the channel grid in that area because, 
 technically, it is still being displayed.
 
 All VoiceOver users need do is simply place focus in the lower half of 
 the display and they will have complete access to the ticker.  Once 
 the desired settings are configured:
 
 3.
 Simply double-tap the Go button which is located in the same location 
 as the Send button, when sending a text message.
 
 Finally, double-tapping an actual channel number in the grid will take 
 you to that single channel's upcoming programming.
 
 Good Luck and Enjoy,
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Melissa
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: TV Guide
 
 There was an update on Friday for the TV Guide app, which set some of 
 their accessibility back a few steps.  Since this update, moving 
 backwards in the days listings doesn't seem to work, and it does keep 
 refreshing, particularly when one tries to move backwards in the listings.
 You used to be able to change the date and time listing you are 
 viewing by double tapping on the time in the top center of the screen.  
 This would bring up a selection list, where you could swipe up or down 
 with one finger to change the setting.
 By double tapping on a channel's name/number, you can view listings 
 specifically for that channel for several weeks ahead.
 Warm regards,
 Melissa
 
 Melissa Riley
 jamand...@izoom.net
 riley...@umn.edu
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:55 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: TV Guide
 
 I have the latest update running under IOS 7.03.  I can only view the 
 current day's program.  Is there a way to change the date being viewed?
 Also, I recently noticed that while swiping through the day's events

RE: Test, and questions

2013-11-11 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Tessa,

Your messages are getting through to the list.

I, for one, have never downloaded an entire album from iTunes Store.  I'm an
Amazon MP3 man.  

I did purchase a couple of episodes of the Twilight zone on my iPHone 4,
last year or so and it has been a pain in the you-know-what to keep the
files from reverting their meta data to the original configuration.  

Now, of course, in the new iOS, if one does not change the settings, one can
see everything they've ever purchased.  

This does not answer your question but rest assured that you're not the only
one having some concerns about transferring media from one device to
another.  

I'm certain there are many on the list who are well qualified to answer your
question.

As for me, I prefer to purchase from Amazon and then import into iTunes.  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tessa
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Test, and questions

Hi:
I'm wondering if my questions are actually reaching the list, I get them
back, but not a single responce, which is very unusual for this list.

One question was about incomplete albums downloaded to my phone, I
downloaded a large collection of christmas music and was told that 5 of the
songs could not be downloaded at this time. I synced my phone with my
computer and ended up with the incomplete album but now the rest of the
songs have turned up on my phone and I don't know how to get the whole thing
on to my computer.
I know next to nothing about moving music around and playlists and such so
very basic answers would be appreciated if anyone can help.
Thanks
Tessa 

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RE: Text messages in lock screen

2013-11-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Katey,

I am so sorry for your distress.  

You know, there are two more settings you should confirm in order to insure
that Text messages will not be automatically read by VoiceOver on the lock
screen.  

Do the following.

A.
1.
From the Settings menu, select Messages.

2.
Make sure the Show Subject Field option is set to off.

B.
1.
From within the Settings list, select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.  

2.
Just below the Fetch settings area, you will see the Preview option.  Make
sure this is set to none.

Hopefully that will do it.

Good Luck,

Mark


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Of Katey Glass
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text messages in lock screen

Good Afternoon all,

I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my
text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up
until today it just told me I had a notification or something.  

So I double checked in generalaccessibilityVoiceOver and read in lock
screen is set to off.  

I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again)
all my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock
screen.  

Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it and
it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed
those settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was not in the
App Switcher.  

I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone since I
got it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use iCloud
to restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like Pandora and
I had to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora back but lost
ringtones.  

I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a new
device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!  

Please help me.

thanks,

Katey 

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RE: has any one been having problems down loading the newesst audio boo app update that was released today?

2013-11-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Adrian,

Audioboo is working perfectly for me and I just updated.

Mark

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Subject: has any one been having problems down loading the newesst audio boo
app update that was released today?

has anny one beeen having problems down loading the newest audio boo update
that realeased today? i cannnt get mine to down load.. it says to oppen it
when i doo it doesn't show any thing.

```Sent from my iPad

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RE: Facebook on the iPhone

2013-11-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Simon,

The Facebook app is working just fine for me, today.

Mark



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Subject: Facebook on the iPhone

Hi there is anybody else having trouble with the Facebook on the iPhone
today

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Calorie Counter Wanted

2013-11-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I am looking for a  VoiceOver accessible Calorie Counting App that can do
any or all of the following:

help track how many calories you've burned,

Determine how many calories there are in your diet, and the number of
calories in the food you eat.

Be a food diary.

Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Calorie Counter Wanted

2013-11-17 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Frances,

I just downloaded that app and cannot make heads or taials of it.  To me, it
is VoiceOver inaccessible.  

As far as I can tell, there is only one app in the store by that company.  

When I tried to use it, none of the buttons were labeled correctly and I
could not get it to list any foods with their respective calories.  

Are you able to browse various foods and see their respective calories?  

If so, please write a tip and I will download the app again.

Thank you,

Mark

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Of Frances
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calorie Counter Wanted

Hello
I like the my fitness pal app 

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:45, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am looking for a  VoiceOver accessible Calorie Counting App that can 
 do any or all of the following:
 
 help track how many calories you've burned,
 
 Determine how many calories there are in your diet, and the number of 
 calories in the food you eat.
 
 Be a food diary.
 
 Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: Calorie Counter Wanted

2013-11-17 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Anna,

Okay, I'll give it a try.  

Thank you,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calorie Counter Wanted

Hi Mark,

I have this app, and it used to be very accessible. When I opened the latest
version for the first time, though, there were lots of inaccessible bits
telling about new features and changes. My son helped me get through all
that, and now I can use it again for the limited purposes I wanted it for.

To start, double-tap Add to Diary, which is on the right, a little way down
from the top of the screen. Now there's a column down the right edge of the
screen with Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, and Snack. Double-tap the one you
want. To search for a food, double-tap the Search button in the upper right
corner of the screen. You can now flick through the search results. I assume
that if you double-tap one, it gets added to your diary.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:12 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Frances,
 
 I just downloaded that app and cannot make heads or taials of it.  To 
 me, it is VoiceOver inaccessible.
 
 As far as I can tell, there is only one app in the store by that company.

 
 When I tried to use it, none of the buttons were labeled correctly and 
 I could not get it to list any foods with their respective calories.
 
 Are you able to browse various foods and see their respective calories?  
 
 If so, please write a tip and I will download the app again.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Frances
 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Calorie Counter Wanted
 
 Hello
 I like the my fitness pal app
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:45, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am looking for a  VoiceOver accessible Calorie Counting App that 
 can do any or all of the following:
 
 help track how many calories you've burned,
 
 Determine how many calories there are in your diet, and the number of 
 calories in the food you eat.
 
 Be a food diary.
 
 Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Calorie Counter Wanted

2013-11-17 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Anita,

Thanks for writing the developer.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gadget Girl Anita
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calorie Counter Wanted

I am on IOS 7 and it does not work.  The MyFitnessPal app used to work in
iOS 6.1 3, but since the update, the App seems to be broken.  I have written
the developer of the App and will keep you posted on any responses I
receive.

Regards,
Gadget Girl Anita

Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, take a bite, express yourself.

 On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Frances frances_magu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 I'm not on ios7 it works fine with VoiceOver for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Nov 2013, at 17:12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Frances,
 
 I just downloaded that app and cannot make heads or taials of it.  To 
 me, it is VoiceOver inaccessible.
 
 As far as I can tell, there is only one app in the store by that company.

 
 When I tried to use it, none of the buttons were labeled correctly 
 and I could not get it to list any foods with their respective calories.
 
 Are you able to browse various foods and see their respective calories?  
 
 If so, please write a tip and I will download the app again.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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 Behalf Of Frances
 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Calorie Counter Wanted
 
 Hello
 I like the my fitness pal app
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:45, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am looking for a  VoiceOver accessible Calorie Counting App that 
 can do any or all of the following:
 
 help track how many calories you've burned,
 
 Determine how many calories there are in your diet, and the number 
 of calories in the food you eat.
 
 Be a food diary.
 
 Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: iTunes: books tab is missing under the section for my iPhone

2013-11-17 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Theresa,

I am running the latest version of iTunes for Windows with my 5 S and there
is a Books tab on both the SideBar and across the devices Tab, just as
always.  

I don't sync my devices to iTunes on the Mac so don't know what's going on
there.

Mark


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Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes: books tab is missing under the section for my iPhone

You can't sync books with iTunes anymore, since iBooks became a Mac app. I
believe you can sync them with iCloud, however.

HtH,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Nov 17, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:

 The subject says it all. I'm using Windows 8.1 32-BIT with the latest
version of iTunes, and an iPhone 5S with the latest version of iOS.
  
 Bizarrely, when I select the iPhone button in iTunes to change settings
for my iPhone, the Books tab is now missing. There is summary, info, apps,
music, tones, iTunes U, and photos, but no books. iBooks and audiobooks that
I've synced to my iPhone are still on the phone, but I obviously can't sync
new ones or delete existing ones. Any idea what could be going on here?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Grant
 
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RE: How do you cancil an update that can't download

2013-11-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jen,

Cancelling a download is very easy.

Simply return to the same location from where you initiated either the
install or update.  For example, the button would have previously been
labeled Update or Download or Buy or Install.  

Once the download process begins, this button will show the percentage of
the download in progress.  Simply single-finger double-tap that percentage
button to cancel the process.

Good Luck,

Mark



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do you cancil an update that can't download

Hi,  
I need to know how to cancil an update that won’t download.  
Jen  
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RE: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

2013-11-20 Thread M. Taylor
You are absolutely correct on this, Brent.  And, by the way, I hate the new
sound levels.  I guess my hearing is not as good as those who work at Apple.


It took me weeks to get used to the new sound levels and it's still a
struggle.  

Mark

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Of Brent Harbolt
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

Hi all. Am observing that the alert sounds on the iPhone 5s seem to be a lot
quieter than on other devices like the 5 or the iPod. When I refer to alert
sounds I refer to sounds like when you initiate a dictation in an email or
text box by clicking the dictate button or by using a 2 finger double tap.
Does anyone else notice this or can confirm this? Also, I can't see that
there is a way to adjust this volume on these alerts.
 
Brent
 
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RE: Volume issue on 5S - but not just with VO

2013-11-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Robin,

I can definitely confirm this bug.  

I have experienced it several times.  The problem is that it is not
consistent and thus hard to verify.  At first, I thought it was my
imagination but, alas, it is not.  

I'm not sure what to do about it.  Generally, I just restart my phone and
the volume seems to reset properly.

Mark



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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Volume issue on 5S - but not just with VO

Dear listers
 
Apologies if this has been covered but on my 5S it seems that everything is
quiet and the max volume is very low. I’m not just talking about VO’s volume
as per recent msgs but ringtones, podcasts and everything. It may or may not
solely affect earbuds as I have them in my phone 99% of the time but my max
volume on earbuds is definitely quieter than before. By the way I upgrades
to iOS7 at the same time as getting the 5S so don’t know if it’s hardware or
software.
 
Thanks, Robin.
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RE: timer on BARD

2013-11-28 Thread M. Taylor
Perhaps I'm missing something here but when I want to use the sleep timer
with BARD or any media playback, I do the following either before or after
starting playback:

1.
Single-finger tap and hold near the bottom edge of the screen until a
double-pop is heard.  

2.
Release and then single-finger swipe up from the bottom edge of the screen.
This brings up Control Center.

3.
Double-tap the Clock button.

4.
Assuming you've already got the timer in focus and set to stop playing and
you've already set your countdown to a desired time, single-finger
double-tap Start.

5.
Press the Home button to return to the launch screen.

Generally speaking, this takes me less than 20 seconds to accomplish.  I do
it every day.  

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: timer on BARD

Yes, well, I use the timer for other things, cooking, baking, doing laundry
and much more, switching from stop to a sound is not something Siri can do
to my knowledge which is the reason I don't use it to stop Bard, I use it
often for various things during  day.  


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Of Don Breda
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: timer on BARD

Well not true really.

As  long as you set it for stop playng the first time you never need to
touch it again.

All you have to do is say set sleep timer for 30 minutes to siri and she
will say ok 30 minutes and counting.

It couldn't get any better then that.

Don



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FaceBook App Equivalent

2013-11-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I am so pleased with the Facebook app for my iPhone that I was wondering if
there is an equivalent app for the Mac?  

I will post a similar question on the Mac Mailing list but was hoping
someone here could make a suggestion as I have not yet re-upped my Mac List
email subscription.

Thank you,

Mark



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Calling All Focus 40 Blue Jaws Users For Help, Off-List

2012-09-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

In addition to being a loyal iPhone user, if you are a Focus 40 Blue Jaws
v13.x user, who occasionally creates documents in MS Word 2007, please
contact me off-list.  

I have a Braille display spellchecking problem that I cannot seem to resolve
and I don't know of any other lists to which to send a request for help.  

My direct email address is:  mk...@ucla.edu

I will explain my problem should you contact me.

Thank you all in advance.

Mark

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RE: increasing time before a call goes to voice mail

2012-09-03 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Don,

While I have only done this on the ATT Wireless network, in recent years,
I'm sure all of the major carriers allow the same customization.  

There is no setting on the iPHone that will allow you to set the number of
rings or the amount of time before a call goes to voicemail.  In order to do
this you must contact your wireless provider.  

Please be aware that many of the phone support people do not know how to do
this successfully on the iPhone.

Once, I had to call three times before they were able to save my settings
correctly.  

Mark



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: increasing time before a call goes to voice mail

Hi all,

Seems to me I remember there is a way to increase the time between when a
call comes in and it goes to email on the iphone.

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks,

Don

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Request an ATT iPhone Unlock Online Using This Form

2012-09-08 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Click the following URL if you wish to request that you're a T  T Wireless
iPhone be unlocked.  

http://m.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=24307

Mark

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RE: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Joe,

I totally and completely agree with you.

While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and
I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users.


The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes
playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation
than anything.

I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: i5 Underwhelming

Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an
Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a
Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The
hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form
factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these
whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it’s
because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from
other manufacturers, but then, maybe it’s because there is only one annual
update that the iPhone should make more of a splash.

Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, if you’re sitting on the 4S, my consumer
advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking
mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the
subject has already been covered.

Let’s hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more in
line with the cool factor it once enjoyed.

Joe
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RE: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Scott,

I agree with you that a new feature in iTunes and the lack of iPhone
innovation have little if anything to do with each other.  

When posting my original reply to the list, I was thinking about how much
time the speaker, during the keynote presentation, spent demonstrating the
new next up feature that will be in the next major release of iTunes.  

In a nut shell, there are those that will applaud whatever Apple does
regardless of how much or how little.  I am not one of them.

I think it's great that the new iPhone will be faster but the same can be
said of all of its predecessors, as well, at the time of their release.  

Given that they only release one new version of the device per year, I
suppose I was hoping for something new and tantalizing such as was the case
with the iPhone 4 S with Siri.  

Getting back to iTunes, I think it's getting a little late in the day for
Apple to act as though adding a feature to playlists is that big of a deal.


Of course, this is just my opinion but I stand by it.  The market has
matured and, as far as media managers are concerned, iTunes is sorely
lacking, at worst, and is average, at best.  Admittedly, I am not taking
into account, accessibility which, for blind and low vision users, is truly
a game changer.  

As I stated, I will purchase an iPhone 5 next week but I will do so because
I am a fan of Apple and I love having the latest and greatest but not
because of any must-have features.

Accessibility notwithstanding, while Apple may have reinvented the
proverbial Smartphone wheel, they no longer own the road upon which it
travels.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

Mark,

What do you mean by The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to
manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack
of innovation
How is manipulating playlists a lack of innovation? Since iTunes is really a
small part of the whole picture I'm not sure how it makes any real
difference.
Clearly there is only so much room to innovate currently in the hardware but
certainly the innovation will be in the software.
True innovation in hardware will come when someone manages to get 24 hours
runtime (surfing, streaming, and such) on their phone. Now that is going to
be innovative. :)

On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:05 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Joe,
 
 I totally and completely agree with you.
 
 While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor 
 and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users.
 
 
 The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes 
 playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of 
 innovation than anything.
 
 I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely
excited.
 
 Mark
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: i5 Underwhelming
 
 Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not 
 an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac 
 Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this 
 latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the 
 current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new 
 whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill 
 compared to other platforms. Maybe it's because there is only one 
 annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but 
 then, maybe it's because there is only one annual update that the iPhone
should make more of a splash.
 
 Anyway, for whatever it's worth, if you're sitting on the 4S, my 
 consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly 
 personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and 
 please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered.
 
 Let's hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple 
 more in line with the cool factor it once enjoyed.
 
 Joe
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A Tip for A T T Wireless Customers Who Are Thinking About Upgrading to iPhone 5

2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I went into the A T  T Wireless store a few hours ago to see if I am
eligible for an upgrade.  Somehow I knew I wouldn't be but I just wanted to
confirm (Smile).  Not that it matters as I have decided to purchase iPhone
5.

I was amazed at the fact that the store was jam-packed with customers.
While I no longer frequent the A T  T Wireless or Verizon Wireless stores
as much as I used to, I visit enough to have been truly surprised.  There
was a waiting list to enter the store.  

I asked the receptionist why the store was so busy and she said it was
because of all the people who are pre-ordering iPhone 5.  

It would appear that not everyone was underwhelmed by Apple's keynote
presentation.

After leaving the store, I decided to go over to the Verizon Wireless store
and, it too, was jam-packed with people preordering.  

All I can say is that there appears to be something magical about the
Apple-effect, as I have come to think of it.  

By the way, I decided not to wait at the A T  T wireless store.  The
receptionist reminded me that I can check to see if I am eligible for an
upgrade by doing the following from my iPhone:

1.
Open the Phone App.

2.
Switch to the Dial Pad.

3.
Dial *639#

4.
Tap the Call button.  By the way, 6 3  9 spells the word NEW.  You will
receive a text message stating your eligibility status.

Mark

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Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless

2012-09-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T  T Wireless.  In fact,
I preordered my iPhone 4.  

However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T  T
Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order
before its completion.  

I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one
needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right.


As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online
preorder process was a wise decision.  

Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T   T
Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S
preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not
include unlimited data.

Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I
can tell you that A T  T Wireless would love to remove all of those
remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to
accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that
one will simply agree without reading it.  

In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into
an A T  T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current
device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens
with my data plan.  

Good Luck To All,

Mark

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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Annie,

As a Focus user, I concur with you.

The best thing about the Focus is the Wiz Wheels and being able to use them
with either hand.

I read Braille with my Right hand and truly enjoyed using my left Wiz Wheel
to scroll through documents.  

Even allowing us to reverse the panning buttons would be an improvement over
the current situation.

Unfortunately, I updated both my 4 and my 4 S to iOS 6.  Would that I had
known such a key assignment change was in store, I would not have updated my
4.

Oh well.

I encourage all of you to send this issue to accessibil...@apple.com

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi.

I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.

 
What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.

Best regards Annie.

 
Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene
dash...@loveable.com:

 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver
behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is still
very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. 
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver focus 
 will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and after 
 a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
 
 Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into 
 this update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that 
 Braille is virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's 
 not practical. So, I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can figure
out where to get it.
 
 Cheryl
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 You can not change whiz wheels behaviour in IOS as far as I know.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 19, 2012 kl. 10:10 PM skrev Scott Davert
scottslistm...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Anney.
 Have you made sure that your wizwheels didn't get changed by accident?
 You know that if you press streight down on them, this will toggle 
 how they navigate, 

RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-19 Thread M. Taylor
Theresa,

How does one bring up the Rotor on the Braille display?  

For some reason, I just don't remember the command.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi, Mark,

Vertical navigation is in the rotor. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in
IBooks.

One thing I like about using the Focus 40 blue with IBooks now is that the
rotor switches to navigation mode when on the page chooser, so it's possible
to flip pages with the wheel. Then I just pan left once and I go to the top
of the page.

The new functionality is taking some getting used to, but I think it will
work for me. For me it's not a deal-breaker in any case.

Teresa

On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Jonathan,
 
 This is Mark Taylor.
 
 How does one set vertical navigation and how will this benefit we 
 Focus 40 Blue users?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Cheryl, could you not set the rotor to verticle navigation?
 
 Jonathan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:09 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver
behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is still
very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. 
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver focus 
 will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and after 
 a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
 
 Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into 
 this update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that 
 Braille is virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's 
 not practical. So, I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can figure
out where to get it.
 
 Cheryl
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 You can not change whiz wheels behaviour in IOS

Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-19 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you, Less.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi Mark,

I'm not certain if this is a generic command, but on my Braille Connect 32,
dots 23 chord and dots 56 chord cycle through the rotor settings.

Les
On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Theresa,
 
 How does one bring up the Rotor on the Braille display?  
 
 For some reason, I just don't remember the command.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi, Mark,
 
 Vertical navigation is in the rotor. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in 
 IBooks.
 
 One thing I like about using the Focus 40 blue with IBooks now is that 
 the rotor switches to navigation mode when on the page chooser, so 
 it's possible to flip pages with the wheel. Then I just pan left once 
 and I go to the top of the page.
 
 The new functionality is taking some getting used to, but I think it 
 will work for me. For me it's not a deal-breaker in any case.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Jonathan,
 
 This is Mark Taylor.
 
 How does one set vertical navigation and how will this benefit we 
 Focus 40 Blue users?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Cheryl, could you not set the rotor to verticle navigation?
 
 Jonathan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:09 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. 
 When I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a 
 practical way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not 
 flying off the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid 
 of something new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the 
 way VoiceOver
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand 
 what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still
 very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead.
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver 
 focus will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and 
 after a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
 
 Although I can appreciate

OK To Update To NEW TV Guide App

2012-09-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Gang,

The subject line says it all, 

A new version of the TV Guide app was released today.  

I am happy to report that VoiceOver accessibility was not broken.  The app
is as wonderful as always.

Even better, with iOS 6, you can launch it via Siri.  To do so, simply
activate Siri and say TV Guide.

Mark 

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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Annie,

I don't want to get off topic but I want to be clear on something as I was
toying with the idea of purchasing another Focus, the new model.

Are you saying that the new, smaller, model of the Focus 40 Blue no longer
has Wiz Wheels as they existed on the previous model?

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi Mark.

You are reading braille exactly as i am reading. I have asked apple for the
possibility to reverse paning buttons since IOS 4, but nothing hapens.

I am really disappointed with apple in this case. The only thing I really
like about focus 40 blue is these whiz wheels or a sort of rocker buttons
that they have been changed to in the new focus.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 2:36 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

 Hello Annie,
 
 As a Focus user, I concur with you.
 
 The best thing about the Focus is the Wiz Wheels and being able to use 
 them with either hand.
 
 I read Braille with my Right hand and truly enjoyed using my left Wiz 
 Wheel to scroll through documents.
 
 Even allowing us to reverse the panning buttons would be an 
 improvement over the current situation.
 
 Unfortunately, I updated both my 4 and my 4 S to iOS 6.  Would that I 
 had known such a key assignment change was in store, I would not have 
 updated my 4.
 
 Oh well.
 
 I encourage all of you to send this issue to accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems 
 to go to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun 
 that can go to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that 
 will course problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all
the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. 
 When I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a 
 practical way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not 
 flying off the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid 
 of something new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the 
 way VoiceOver
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand 
 what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still
 very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead.
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one

RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Scott,

To answer your first question, the Trekker, as does Mobile Speak,
automatically announces cross streets either with or without a route being
set.  This is a feature upon which I insist when traveling alone, in
unfamiliar areas.  

As to your second question, in my opinion, Apple is not in the business of
Map making and, while they may offer very good solutions, I suspect that A T
 T Wireless, with its vast nationwide telephone infrastructure has more
resources dedicated to maintaining POI updated listings.  This is just a
supposition; perhaps Apple will prove me wrong as they have on several
occasions.  (Smile).

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Mark,

First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most
significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that
device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of
POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to
remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the
Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be
forthcoming since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks
would use.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each 
 has been extremely painful.
 
 Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with 
 voice guided navigation.
 
 I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  
 
 One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.

 
 A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver
accessible.
 
 
 I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  
 
 Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware 
 Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to 
 unsubscribe from A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.
 
 One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of 
 interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.
 
 The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  
 
 So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new 
 turn-by-turn directions a spin.
 
 Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Tom,

Be sure to set navigation to Walking, rather than driving and see what
happens.

Mark



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Of Thom
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I tried to use the turn by turn directions yersterday. It would announce how
far away from my house I was, until I got close to my destination. Then it
told me that my destination was 250 feet on the right. I didn't see anything
useful in between. I only went 4 tenths of a mile, but I think I need to
play with it a bit more.

Thom

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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RE: Unable to update but why?

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kimberly,

Did you make certain that you have the latest version of iTunes installed
before beginning the update?

If you're using the Windows version of iTunes, you can check for updates by
first selecting the Help menu, then choose Check for Update.

Mark




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Of Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unable to update but why?

Last night I tried to update my phone. But after being plugged into itunes
for like three hours, I got a message saying the update could not be done
because the firnware was incompatible. What's that about? Anybody have any
suggestions? 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Michelle McQuigge michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Same good news over here - all systems go on my more responsive 3gs.
 That upgrade process was a cakewalk, albeit a slow one. :)
 
 
 
 matthew Dyer wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I am currently running iOS 6 and it is berry responceive on my 3GS.
 
 Matthew
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 I have also successfully updated here in the UK.
 Sandra
 Braille Greeting Cards
 www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:23 PM
 Subject: successfully updated
 
 
 Hi all.  Successfully updated from here.
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jim,

Please see the message I just posted to the list that describes how to get
turn-by-turn directions.

Mark



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Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Mark:

Where does one fine the walk option?


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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Tom,

Be sure to set navigation to Walking, rather than driving and see what
happens.

Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I tried to use the turn by turn directions yersterday. It would announce how
far away from my house I was, until I got close to my destination. Then it
told me that my destination was 250 feet on the right. I didn't see anything
useful in between. I only went 4 tenths of a mile, but I think I need to
play with it a bit more.

Thom

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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RE: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Neil,

I just performed several tests to see if I could reproduce your volume issue
but I cannot.

Regardless of whether I initiate or answer a call, when the call ends,
either via a double-tap on my part or the other party disconnecting,
VoiceOver acts just as it should, or rather, as it always has.

In short, I cannot reproduce your problem on my iPhone 4 S.

Mark

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Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

Hi All,

Since updating to iOS 6 on my iPHone 4S, when ending a call that I
instigated, Voice Over seems to be off, in fact, its volume has been reduced
to 0%.

Has anyone else experienced this at all.?

My resolution to date, has simply been, following the call, and the
seemingly now dead iPhone, to simply tap the screen anywhere and press and
hold the physical volume up key.

I also have experienced the same issue, although not every time, when using
Siri and the Dictate button within SMS / iMessage etc.

Any thoughts?

Neil

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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Scott,

I recall it announcing an intersection but I do not think it does announce
cross streets, at least, not in the way I have come to expect.

Later today, much later, I will use the app and see what happens.  I
apologize for such an evasive answer but fatigue has gotten the better of me
and I want to confirm any conclusions regarding software solution
comparisons.  

Now that I think about it, another reason why I will continue to use my
Trekker Breeze, is to conserve iPhone battery life.  NO one can dispute that
using GPS navigation on iPhone is a proverbial gas guzzler.  

When using A T  T Navigator, 95% of the time, I have iPHone plugged into a
power jack in the car.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Mark,

I have not taken Maps for a walk yet; however, just standing in my house it
seems that streets may be spoken. So, are you saying that as you approach an
intersection the cross street is not announced?

On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:10 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Scott,
 
 To answer your first question, the Trekker, as does Mobile Speak, 
 automatically announces cross streets either with or without a route 
 being set.  This is a feature upon which I insist when traveling 
 alone, in unfamiliar areas.
 
 As to your second question, in my opinion, Apple is not in the 
 business of Map making and, while they may offer very good solutions, 
 I suspect that A T  T Wireless, with its vast nationwide telephone 
 infrastructure has more resources dedicated to maintaining POI updated 
 listings.  This is just a supposition; perhaps Apple will prove me 
 wrong as they have on several occasions.  (Smile).
 
 Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far
 
 Mark,
 
 First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most 
 significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over 
 that device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have 
 the level of POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that 
 everyone has to remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt 
 improve and enhance the Maps application. I am sure transit 
 information for example will be forthcoming since that is a pretty 
 significant piece that I am sure folks would use.
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each 
 has been extremely painful.
 
 Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with 
 voice guided navigation.
 
 I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  
 
 One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list
mode.
 
 
 A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver
 accessible.
 
 
 I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  
 
 Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware 
 Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to 
 unsubscribe from A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.
 
 One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of 
 interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.
 
 The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  
 
 So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new 
 turn-by-turn directions a spin.
 
 Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.
 
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Mark's iOS 6.0 Map App Walking Navigation Extended Results Report

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,  

NOTE 1:
I just returned from over 90 minutes of using the iOS 6.0 Maps App, via
VoiceOver, on my iPhone 4 S.  I am extremely tired and uncomfortable as
today is a particularly hot day here in southern California.  Normally, I
would post my results after a rest but want to report while the experience
is still fresh in my mind.  So, if the following comes across as curt,
please accept my apology; I just want to get the facts, as I experienced
them, to you.  

NOTE 2:
Before heading out the door, I made sure my iPHone reported 100% battery
level.  I turned my WiFi off and rebooted the phone for good measure.  

NOTE 3:
During the entire experience, my phone reported that I had a 4G connection.
This connection was never lost as I live in a part of town that, for better
or worse, is replete with A T  T Wireless cell towers.  

NOTE 4:
I only experimented with creating and using walking directions, not driving
directions.

NOTE 5:
I did not use any Bluetooth connected accessories but, rather, only the
included Apple headset that ships with the 4 S.

NOTE 6:
My initial positive test results, yesterday, were based on the fact that
Siri correctly announced my approach to a street at the beginning of a short
route.  

NOTE 7:
While it is not my intention to draw comparisons between the iOS 6.0 Maps
App and the Trekker Breeze, I will refer to the Breeze if for no other
reason than to informs those who may not know, that such features exist in a
GPS solution designed for the blind and low vision.

Now that all that is out of the way let's get to it, shall we?  

1.
I live about a quarter of a mile from the nearest street that is mapped.  As
a result, when using my current location as the starting point, I could only
create a route when standing in a certain position in my driveway.  In order
to consistently create a route, I had to walk up to the street that is
mapped.  While this is not a deal breaker, by any means, Trekker can provide
off-map guidance.  

2.
My first experiment was to not create a route but, instead, set tracking to
on plus headings and then just walk down the street.  While Maps, as I will
refer to it from this point forward, reported that I was approaching an
intersection, it did not do so consistently.  In fact, it inconsistently
listed some streets while omitting others.  I should also let you know that
the accuracy of the street name announcements were dismal, at best.  That is
to say, as a low vision person, I could see the intersections and compare
what I saw to when information was reported.  It appeared to me that the
longer I walked, the more inaccurate and/or sluggish Maps became.  Please
note that I conducted some experiments multiple times in order to discern
any patterns.

NOTE 8:
Just in case you're wondering, there were no tall building, clouds, or any
kind of obstructions blocking my view of the sky.  

NOTE 9:
The compass, during all my experiments, was dead on.  It was perfectly
accurate and the most responsive.  

3.
Next, I created several walking routes.  I deliberately chose destinations
by which one may only travel in one direction.  That is to say, all of the
streets, along the route, dead-end into others.  To my astonishment, Maps
got them all wrong.  In one test, the directions were reversed.  For example
instructing me to turn left when I could only turn right.  In another
experiment, it listed streets that were simply not there.

4.
Whenever I attempted to view the list of directions, which by the way did
not dynamically update, tracking would switch to off.  This was maddening,
to put it nicely. 

5.
When reporting my current location, compass headings notwithstanding, the
only thing Maps consistently got right was the city.  Sometimes it reported
the correct street but not enough to trust, were I totally blind and in an
unfamiliar environment. 

6.
Even though I have my screen brightness set to only 40%, at the end of the
90 minutes of walking, my battery level was 62%.

In conclusion, based on what I experienced today, I would not recommend Maps
as a GPS walking navigation solution for the blind and low vision on iPhone
4 S.  It will be interesting to see how iPHone 5 does in comparison.

I hope some of you find this report useful.  As is always the case, your
mileage may vary.

Making a Joyful Noise,

Mark

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RE: Passbook issues

2012-09-21 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jenifer,

Relax; it's not you.  I, and countless others are having the exact same
issue.  

There is a so-called workaround for this but the workaround did not work for
me.  

Apple is well aware of this and I'm certain that a fix is in the works.  

Google the problem and you will discover the workaround which involves a
couple of steps.

This is not an accessibility issue.

Mark




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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:10 PM
To: The iPhone List List
Subject: Passbook issues

Hi all. I'm having an issue with the passbook app. Every time I go to
connect to the app store, it says it can't connect. Yet, I am able to
connect using other apps like the iTunes or the regular app store app.
Anyone else having this issue? Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

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Mark On iPhone 5 and 4 S

2012-09-22 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Yesterday, at 4:30am I was in a line at my local A T  T Wireless store.  I
was 32nd in line.  It was dark as the sun was not out but pleasant.  I
Learned that the first person in line had gotten their at 8:00pm the
previous night.  

The store opened at 8:00am sharp and, surprisingly, I was in the store by
8:20am.  

I was all set to purchase a black 64GB iPhone 5.  

While the sales person was reviewing my account, etc, I took a look at the
display model of the device.  I held it next to my 4 S and, after turning
VoiceOver on, began comparing various tests such as startup time, shutdown
time, display scrolling, sound quality, etc.  I was truly disappointed in
what I discovered.  

I told the sales person to hold my iPhone 5 and help another customer while
I spent some time with iPHone 5.  I spent a total of 2 hours exploring the
device.  

In the end, I decided not to buy the phone at this time, given that I am not
eligible for the full upgrade discount and the facts that I could see no
discernible different in phone speed between the 5 and the 4 S.  Both the
sales person and I were surprised at my decision.  

As I left the store, I expected to feel a pang of regret at not buying
iPhone 5.  To date, no such regret has been experienced (smile).

One thing I've noticed since upgrading to iOS 6.0 on my 4 S, however, is the
massive drain on battery power in comparison to iOS 5.x.  Now this could be
a game changer but not quite yet.  

I think I will wait to see if they fix this battery drain issue in the
next/first update to iOS 6.0.  If they do, great; if not, then I will
definitely purchase iPhone 5.

Congratulations to all you who have iPHone 5, it is truly the best device
made by Apple, so far. I may join your number but, at present, I am content
to remain a lowly iPhone 4 S man (Smile).

Making a Joyful Noise,

Mark

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An Interesting Article for your Consideration: Has Apple Peaked?

2012-09-22 Thread M. Taylor
Has Apple Peaked?
By JOE NOCERA
Published: September 21, 2012 

If Steve Jobs were still alive, would the new map application on the iPhone
5 be such an unmitigated disaster? Interesting question, isn't it? 

As Apple's chief executive, Jobs was a perfectionist. He had no tolerance
for corner-cutting or mediocre products. The last time Apple released a
truly substandard product - MobileMe, in 2008 - Jobs gathered the team into
an auditorium, berated them mercilessly and then got rid of the team leader
in front of everybody, according to Walter Isaacson's biography of Jobs. The
three devices that made Apple the most valuable company in America - the
iPod, the iPhone and the iPad - were all genuine innovations that forced
every other technology company to play catch-up. 

No doubt, the iPhone 5, which went on sale on Friday, will be another hit.
Apple's halo remains powerful. But there is nothing about it that is
especially innovative. Plus, of course, it has that nasty glitch. In rolling
out a new operating system for the iPhone 5, Apple replaced Google's map
application - the mapping gold standard - with its own, vastly inferior,
application, which has infuriated its customers. With maps now such a
critical feature of smartphones, it seems to be an inexplicable mistake. 

And maybe that's all it is - a mistake, soon to be fixed. But it is just as
likely to turn out to be the canary in the coal mine. Though Apple will
remain a highly profitable company for years to come, I would be surprised
if it ever gives us another product as transformative as the iPhone or the
iPad. 

Part of the reason is obvious: Jobs isn't there anymore. It is rare that a
company is so completely an extension of one man's brain as Apple was an
extension of Jobs. While he was alive, that was a strength; now it's a
weakness. Apple's current executive team is no doubt trying to maintain the
same demanding, innovative culture, but it's just not the same without the
man himself looking over everybody's shoulder. If the map glitch tells us
anything, it is that. 

But there is also a less obvious - yet possibly more important - reason that
Apple's best days may soon be behind it. When Jobs returned to the company
in 1997, after 12 years in exile, Apple was in deep trouble. It could afford
to take big risks and, indeed, to search for a new business model, because
it had nothing to lose. 

Fifteen years later, Apple has a hugely profitable business model to defend
- and a lot to lose. Companies change when that happens. The business model
becomes a gilded cage, and management won't do anything to challenge it,
while doing everything they can to protect it, says Larry Keeley, an
innovation strategist at Doblin, a consulting firm. 

It happens in every industry, but it is especially easy to see in technology
because things move so quickly. It was less than 15 years ago that Microsoft
appeared to be invincible. But once its Windows operating system and Office
applications became giant moneymakers, Microsoft's entire strategy became
geared toward protecting its two cash cows. It ruthlessly used its Windows
platform to promote its own products at the expense of rivals. (The
Microsoft antitrust trial took dead aim at that behavior.) Although
Microsoft still makes billions, its new products are mainly me-too
versions of innovations made by other companies. 

Now it is Apple's turn to be king of the hill - and, not surprisingly, it
has begun to behave in a very similar fashion. You can see it in the patent
litigation against Samsung, a costly and counterproductive exercise that has
nothing to do with innovation and everything to do with protecting its turf.


And you can see it in the decision to replace Google's map application. Once
an ally, Google is now a rival, and the thought of allowing Google to
promote its maps on Apple's platform had become anathema. More to the point,
Apple wants to force its customers to use its own products, even when they
are not as good as those from rivals. Once companies start acting that way,
they become vulnerable to newer, nimbler competitors that are trying to
create something new, instead of milking the old. Just ask BlackBerry, which
once reigned supreme in the smartphone market but is now roadkill for Apple
and Samsung. 

Even before Jobs died, Apple was becoming a company whose main goal was to
defend its business model. Yes, he would never have allowed his minions to
ship such an embarrassing application. But despite his genius, it is
unlikely he could have kept Apple from eventually lapsing into the ordinary.
It is the nature of capitalism that big companies become defensive, while
newer rivals emerge with better, smarter ideas. 

Oh my god, read one Twitter message I saw. Apple maps is the worst ever.
It is like using MapQuest on a BlackBerry. 

MapQuest and BlackBerry. 

Exactly. 

A version of this op-ed appeared in print on September 22, 2012, on page A23
of the New York edition with the headline: Has 

iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected

2012-09-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

While I'm almost certain this has been discussed here on the list, I just
noticed a VoiceOver Bug.  

If you can reproduce the bug, I strongly encourage you to either send a
comment to accessibil...@apple.com or to call their accessibility number
which is:  877-204-3930.

Feel free to use any part of the following should you decide to send them an
email:

Mark

iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected

Hello,

In iOS 6.0, there is a VoiceOver bug on the recent Call screen in the Phone
App.  

The bug is that VoiceOver mistakenly announces missed call items as being
Unsuccessful call items.

To reproduce the bug, do the following:  

1.
Do not answer an incoming call.  

2.
Open the Phone App.

3.
Select the Recent tab.

4.
Browse the call list and VoiceOver will announce that the call you did not
answer was Unsuccessful instead of Missed.


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To Those Who Could Not Access Passbook in iOS 6.0

2012-09-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Just a short note to let you know that those of us who could not access the
Passbook App at the launch of iOS 6.0, should now be up and running.  

Apple has been steadily updating the back end of the App Store so give it a
try.  

If you are still denied access, give it another day or so then try again,
OK?  

Mark

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A Comment On The Passbook App

2012-09-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Everyone,

You know, when Apple announced Passbook, I thought, among other things, one
would be able to take whatever store reward cards, currently in one's
possession, such as those issued by CVS Pharmacy, Krogers, The Vitamin Shop,
etc, and either scan them into the App or enter any ID numbers that were
associated with the Rewards card into the App.  This is the case with one of
my favorite free Apps called Key Ring.  

Passbook, however, requires that a company have some kind of association
with the App Store.  This makes things much more complicated and less
desirable, in my opinion.  I don't want to have to download a bunch of store
apps that add all kinds of notifications and overhead to my phone just so I
can save 10 cents.  

I realize that for all the automatic display features to work, some kind of
infrastructure has to be maintained by the vendor and Apple but such an
infrastructure is not necessary if one is content to manually open the
Passbook in order to display the reward cards.  

In my local area, many restaurants offer rewards cards that I use on a
regular basis.  These mom and pop shops simply don't have enough time and/or
money to invest in developing an App Store app. 

Allowing the manual entering and editing of a rewards card would have been a
nice feature.  

Fortunately, there are apps such a Key Ring.   

Mark

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RE: iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected

2012-09-25 Thread M. Taylor
Scott, to date, I have not engaged the Do Not Disturb Feature.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected

Mark,

I see the same thing, but I wonder (and would have to do some additional
testing), but perhaps there is some relationship to the do not disturb
feature? As I looked at the log of calls it appeared some unsuccessful
numbers may have been during the time I was trying the DN feature out.
I am going to do some tests and see what happens. If my tests do not provide
the anticipated results, then I will also file a bug report with Apple.

On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:41 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 While I'm almost certain this has been discussed here on the list, I 
 just noticed a VoiceOver Bug.
 
 If you can reproduce the bug, I strongly encourage you to either send 
 a comment to accessibil...@apple.com or to call their accessibility 
 number which is:  877-204-3930.
 
 Feel free to use any part of the following should you decide to send 
 them an
 email:
 
 Mark
 
 iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected
 
 Hello,
 
 In iOS 6.0, there is a VoiceOver bug on the recent Call screen in the 
 Phone App.
 
 The bug is that VoiceOver mistakenly announces missed call items as 
 being Unsuccessful call items.
 
 To reproduce the bug, do the following:  
 
 1.
 Do not answer an incoming call.  
 
 2.
 Open the Phone App.
 
 3.
 Select the Recent tab.
 
 4.
 Browse the call list and VoiceOver will announce that the call you did 
 not answer was Unsuccessful instead of Missed.
 
 
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RE: keyring

2012-09-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Paula,

Please accept my apology for not disclosing that the Key Ring app is
currently not VoiceOver accessible.  

Sometimes, when writing posts, I neglect to mention that I use an app via
the Zoom feature.  

I didn't used to do that but I'm getting older and ...  (Smile).

Anyway please forgive me and I will be much more careful in the details of
my posts to the list.

Most Sincerely,

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyring

Hi Mark and anyone else out there In ViPhone land, I just downloaded the
keyring app and when I opened it I first got the questions about
notifications and said no to that, but yes to the location services.  After
that I got a welcome message, but can’t do anything with it.  There’s just
the word Welcome.  I’ve tried double tapping, flicking and swiping and about
anything else I can think of.  Any thoughts.  Maybe I should have left the
notifications alone.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
God bless!

Paula and Babe
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RE: A Comment On The Passbook App

2012-09-25 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you, Scott.  A website that allows one to create a passbook coupon is
certainly a step in the right direction.

Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Comment On The Passbook App

Mark,

There actually is a website that will allow you to create your own coupons.
Check out http://www.passsource.com. This site may be something smaller
vendors could use. I created a pass for grins and it was pretty accessible
and easy to send to myself.
I am sure with time APple will find a way to work around having to download
all these apps for various businesses just to allow users access via
PassBook. I agree that having to download these apps would not make the
experience very pleasant.

On Sep 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 You know, when Apple announced Passbook, I thought, among other 
 things, one would be able to take whatever store reward cards, 
 currently in one's possession, such as those issued by CVS Pharmacy, 
 Krogers, The Vitamin Shop, etc, and either scan them into the App or 
 enter any ID numbers that were associated with the Rewards card into 
 the App.  This is the case with one of my favorite free Apps called Key
Ring.
 
 Passbook, however, requires that a company have some kind of 
 association with the App Store.  This makes things much more 
 complicated and less desirable, in my opinion.  I don't want to have 
 to download a bunch of store apps that add all kinds of notifications 
 and overhead to my phone just so I can save 10 cents.
 
 I realize that for all the automatic display features to work, some 
 kind of infrastructure has to be maintained by the vendor and Apple 
 but such an infrastructure is not necessary if one is content to 
 manually open the Passbook in order to display the reward cards.
 
 In my local area, many restaurants offer rewards cards that I use on a 
 regular basis.  These mom and pop shops simply don't have enough time 
 and/or money to invest in developing an App Store app.
 
 Allowing the manual entering and editing of a rewards card would have 
 been a nice feature.
 
 Fortunately, there are apps such a Key Ring.   
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Translation app.

2012-09-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Allison,

My favorite totally VoiceOver accessible Translation App for iOS is Jibbigo.


I was a beta tester years ago when it was first developed and I am so happy
to report that they have maintained accessibility for the blind and low
vision.

I use both the English to Spanish and English to Japanese translators on a
weekly basis and find it truly amazing.  In fact, just last night I was
talking to someone who is a native Spanish speaker.  She was trying to
express a particularly complex sentence; so, I whipped out my iPhone 4 S
running iOS 6.0, launched the app, tapped the appropriate button, had her
speak into the iPhone and, bam, her words came to me in English.

The website for the company which provides all the info, including video
tutorials, is located at:
http://www.jibbigo.com

Enjoy,

Mark

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Of Allison Mervis
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:29 PM
To: Viphone@Googlegroups.Com Viphone@Googlegroups.Com
Subject: Translation app.

Hi everyone.
I work as a rehabilitation counselor in California, and I'd like to find a
translation app which will help me to communicate with monolingual Spanish
speaking clients. Ideally, I'd like to find something in which  I could type
an English phrase, and have it read in correctly pronounced Spanish. This
way they'll know what I'm trying to say without me mangling it, and I can
work on my Spanish at the same  time. Does such an app exist, and if so, is
it accessible? Thanks.
Allison

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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Iona,  

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a couple of
days ago.

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark



 











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Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


Sent from my iPhone

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Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark


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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
No, it only happens in the given scenario I described, that is to say
initiating siri from either a locked screen or the launch pad.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

Hi Mark,

I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, does this
happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
 matter how long the auto-lock is set.
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
 you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
 subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
 will time out before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark
Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like 
 it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and 
 Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Richard,


It happens even when I have auto-lock set to never.  

I wonder if this just occurs on iPHone 4 S?

After I installed iOS 6.0, I restored my phone from a previous backup.
Perhaps this could be the culprit?

Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

It sounds like he has the auto lock feature turned on.
For those not having this problem, do you have auto lock enabled?

I never use auto lock, so this isn't an issue for me.

Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

Hi Mark,

I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, does this
happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
 matter how long the auto-lock is set.
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
 you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
 subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
 will time out before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark
Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like 
 it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and 
 Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Raul,

Wow!  That did it.  I turned off VoiceOver before initiating the text
message and Siri worked like a charm.  In fact, the entire process is
automated.  There is no need to press the button to reply to Siri prompts.  

Thank you for this workaround.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

I've had better success in turning off voice over first and then using Siri
like a sighted person to send texts. So, if I really want to use her, I turn
off voice over, I press and hold home. When it beeps I say text blah and the
message. she responds with the message and if she should send it, I simply
say yes without having to tap the listen button and it gets sent.

Although i like Siri very much for many things, I can honestly say that
texting isn't one of them. But as I said, when I do, this is what works
better.

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On 9/27/2012 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello Iona,

 Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a 
 couple of days ago.

 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
 matter how long the auto-lock is set.

 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
 you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
 subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
 will time out before the message can be sent.

 To create the bug, do the following:

 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.

 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark
Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like 
 it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and 
 Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.

 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.

 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.

 Please feel free to use any part of this post.

 Mark















 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

 Hi,

 Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having 
 trouble telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


 Sent from my iPhone


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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Kawal,

The launch pad is the icon grid that is displayed after unlocking the
screen, assuming that no apps are in focus.

Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

What do you mean the Launch pad Mark?
On 27 Sep 2012, at 21:22, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Richard,
 
 
 It happens even when I have auto-lock set to never.  
 
 I wonder if this just occurs on iPHone 4 S?
 
 After I installed iOS 6.0, I restored my phone from a previous backup.
 Perhaps this could be the culprit?
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0
 
 It sounds like he has the auto lock feature turned on.
 For those not having this problem, do you have auto lock enabled?
 
 I never use auto lock, so this isn't an issue for me.
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, 
 does this happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
 matter how long the auto-lock is set.
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
 you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
 subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
 will time out before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to 
 Mark
 Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you 
 like it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is 
 displayed and Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: How about a new use for Seri.

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Richard,

What is the phrase sequence to get Siri to create/save a note?

Mark

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How about a new use for Seri.

Unless I am completely missing your point, you have been able to dictate
notes to Siri since the beginning.

Assuming you have Notes syncing with the Cloud, that is a done deal.

Richard
 

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How about a new use for Seri.

Hello everyone.

How about a new use for Seri when he/she is in a mood to work!

How about if Apple introduced a new feature where you dictated notes to Seri
and then Seri saved your note for you in your notes in the Cloud rather than
you having to type your notes?  Just a thought.

Kawal.

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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Ioana,

 

I have enough residual vision to see the display screen.

 

Mark  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for the detailed explanation. 

How did you know that the screen locked? I am completely blind and did not
hear a screen locked announcement.

Basically what happens is I get to the prompt where siri asks if she should
send and I say send. More often  than not not she says something like:

you said send. I did not understand send. 

It is in fact like she forgot the previous conversation.





Wil definitely report this to apple.





Best,





Ioana









Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online
stores. 

 

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:





Hello Iona,  

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a couple of
days ago.

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark















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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello John,

Thanks for reporting in.  

I can reproduce this issue time and time again.  

I am so glad that virtually no one, besides iOana and I, is experiencing
this.  

Frankly, given how well Siri creates and sends messages with VoiceOver
turned off, I'll probably use that method until all works well.  

All I can add is that I had some serious problems installing iOS 6.0 on my 4
S; perhaps some unknown gremlin found his way into my device.  

When I have enough energy and time, I will probably reinstall iOS 6.0 via
iTunes instead of over-the-air and see what happens.  

Mark 




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Panarese
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

   I am not seeing this.  I just tried it twice without the screen locking.
I am having a strange issue in which I sometimes tell SIRI to send a text
and the screen to cancel, send or reply is shown again.  I then have to tell
her to send it a second time before it will go.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
Twitter, @macfortheblind

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On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 No, it only happens in the given scenario I described, that is to say 
 initiating siri from either a locked screen or the launch pad.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, 
 does this happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
 matter how long the auto-lock is set.
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
 you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
 subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
 will time out before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to 
 Mark
 Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you 
 like it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is 
 displayed and Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Scott,

You're a genius

You are absolutely correct  

It never occurred to me to try sending without my headset.  When I removed
the headset and used the speaker phone, I got the same results as everyone
else.  

So, the bug clearly exists with the headphones plugged in.  

I'm hoping that all those who said they could not produce the bug will
attempt to do so with their headphones plugged in and then, perhaps, they
will report to Apple.

Thank you, Scott.

Most Sincerely,

Mark





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

I have found this problem only exists when using headphones. I have
conducted tests with and without headphones and I am using a pair of Bose
headphones. I suspect the problem exists only with headphones unless someone
has found something different.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

   I am not seeing this.  I just tried it twice without the screen locking.
I am having a strange issue in which I sometimes tell SIRI to send a text
and the screen to cancel, send or reply is shown again.  I then have to tell
her to send it a second time before it will go.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 No, it only happens in the given scenario I described, that is to say 
 initiating siri from either a locked screen or the launch pad.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, 
 does this happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
 message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does 
 not matter how long the auto-lock is set.
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri 
 may successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first 
 time you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  
 However, subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 
 words or so, will time out before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
 interact with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  
 Siri will reply with something like, You said, send a message to 
 Mark
 Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you 
 like it to say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is 
 displayed and Siri will say something like, To, Mark Taylor.
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is 
 your day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something 
 like, You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
 updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
 can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
 after initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with 
 something like, You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only 
 to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
 to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
 their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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Siri Now Works In iOS 6.0 In Allowing ATT Wireless Subscribers To Selectively Display Caller ID

2012-09-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

The following article was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG.  I hope you
find it useful.

Mark


ARTICLE:
Siri Now Works In iOS 6.0 In Allowing ATT Wireless Subscribers To
Selectively Display Caller ID
By Mark Taylor

Hello All,

I am delighted to report that with the release of Apple's iOS 6.0, Siri
enabled devices such as iPhone 4S and iPhone 5, can now dial Contacts whose
telephone numbers contain special symbols, such as those used to selectively
display Caller ID on the ATT Wireless network.

Although I do not recommend it, ATT Wireless customers can now send text
messages to telephone numbers containing the Display Caller ID symbols, as
well.  

The following are updated instructions that describe how to implement
selective Caller ID on the ATT Wireless network:

At the time of this post, there are only two privacy settings from which you
may choose when making a telephone call in iOS 6.0, to either show your
outgoing Caller ID or to BLOCK/hide your outgoing Caller ID.  Whichever you
choose, there is no officially supported method to override the selected
setting for each person in your Contacts list.  

For the record, I, like thousands of others, strongly urge Apple to tame
this particular white elephant that has taken up residence in its proverbial
orchard.

To override iOS 6.0 Caller ID settings, do the following:  

NOTE 1:
The following assumes that iOS 6.0 is set to BLOC/hide outgoing Caller ID.

NOTE 2:
The following has been verified for iOS 6.0.

NOTE 3:
The following has been verified on the ATT Wireless Network, only.

1.
From the Contact List, select a Contact to whom you wish to display your
Caller ID.

2.
In the telephone number Edit Field, insert the prefix *31# before the
telephone number.  For example, *31#(888) 555-1212

3.
Save the changes.

NOTE 4:
You may direct dial a telephone number using this prefix, as well.

NOTE 5:
Although not recommended, after adding the above listed prefix to a Contact
telephone number, you will still be able to send a text message to that
telephone number.

NOTE 6:
Since using a prefix in a Contact telephone number will prevent the Contact
from being displayed during an incoming call, I suggest that you add an
additional telephone number to the Contact mirroring the original telephone
number but without the prefix.  For example:

Contact Name:  Mark Taylor
Mobile:  *31#(888) 555-1212
Other:  (888) 555-1212

This will allow the Contact to be displayed during an incoming call and
provide a valid (recommended) number to which you may send text messages.

NOTE 7:
At the time of this post, you can now use Siri to dial a telephone number
containing [*31#].

NOTE 8:
If Siri is turned off on your iPhone, then you can, as always, use the
standard iOS Voice Commander, found in both the current and previous
versions of iOS, to auto-dial a Contact's telephone number even if said
telephone number includes the [*31#] prefix.

Mark

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ARTICLE: ATT's off-contract iPhone 5 can be unlocked with an easy reset

2012-09-29 Thread M. Taylor
ATT's off-contract iPhone 5 can be unlocked with an easy reset

Off-contract ATT iPhone owners can skip waiting for the carrier to unlock
their smartphones

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET ) One would think that if you bought an iPhone
5 at full price and off-contract that it would already be unlocked.
Apparently, that is only partially correct. 

While Verizon sells Apple's next-generation smartphone at full price already
unlocked out of the box, that is apparently not the case with ATT.
Normally, ATT customers who opt to pay the full $649 price instead of
agreeing to a two-year contract for a subsidized iPhone must follow a
lengthy process to get handset unlocked. 

Those ATT customers must fill out a Web form, send a fax to ATT, and wait
as long as a week for word on whether it will allow the device to be
unlocked. 

However, it now appears that unsubsidized ATT iPhones ship unlocked and
that off-contract customers can save a lot of hassle and time by simply
restoring the device in iTunes. 

This little bypass was first reported by Tech Crunch, which says it
confirmed the process with ATT technical support and successfully reset an
iPhone 5 with a T-Mobile SIM card, getting the usual unlock message:
Congratulations, your iPhone has been unlocked. 

iPhone users can confirm the unlock by swapping in another GSM-compatible
SIM card, Tech Crunch's Romain Dillet explained: 


After receiving the notification my new iPhone was unlocked, I cut a
micro-SIM card into the shape of a nano-SIM by using the ATT SIM card that
was already in the iPhone 5 as a guide. The most difficult part was to make
it narrower so that you can close the tiny nano-SIM tray, though some have
reported that this step may be optional. In a couple of seconds, the iPhone
was able to pick up the T-Mobile network, and calls and EDGE data
connectivity worked as expected.

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article: iPhone 5 honeymoon over already?

2012-09-29 Thread M. Taylor
article:  iPhone 5 honeymoon over already?

week in review Owners of the new smartphone find a litany of fault with the
new device, while Apple grapples with map miscues.
CNET News:

After just a week on the market, the iPhone 5 has owners writing up a
laundry list of faults with the new device. 

Soon after the iPhone 5 went on sale last Friday, users started filling up
discussion forums and social networks with reports of scratches and nicks on
their brand-new phones. People say they've noticed the defects around the
aluminum band surrounding the phone, with the issue more visible on the
black version of the new iPhone. 

Those complaints don't appear to bother Apple. Any aluminum product may
scratch or chip with use, exposing its natural silver color, Apple Senior
Marketing VP Phil Schiller said in an e-mail, according to 9to5Mac. That is
normal. 

Apple seems much more taken aback by the flap over its iOS 6 Maps app -- so
much so that CEO Tim Cook on Friday took the startling step, for Apple, of
issuing a major mea culpa for falling short of delivering the best possible
experience. We are extremely sorry, Cook wrote, for the frustration this
has caused our customers and we are doing everything we can to make Maps
better. 

But back to the iPhone: A purple halo also seems to plaguing some iPhone 5
owners, reportedly occurring on photographs if you aim your iPhone 5 camera
toward a bright light source such as the sun or an incandescent light. If
you then move the camera so the light source is off-screen, a purple halo
effect can be seen through the camera. That effect also shows up on any
pictures that are taken. 

Users are also complaining of lines of static appearing across their
keyboard as they type. But the problem seems to occur only when they enter
their passwords at the App Store or iTunes store. 


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Aluminum versus Glass iPHone, Just a Comment

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I was in my local A T  T Wireless Store assisting a friend in upgrading her
iPhone 4 to an iPHone 4 S.  While we were waiting for a representative, I
took the opportunity to explore iPHone 5, again.  

You know what?  NO matter how much Apple tries to spin it, the iPHone 5
feels like a more cheaply made device than the 4 or the 4 S.  

Say what you will but there is something special about that glass finish
that is lost with iPHone 5.  

Perhaps most people keep their phones in a case so it matters little to them
but to me, what put iPHone a cut above the rest has been lost with iPhone 5,
in terms of tactile satisfaction.  

Also, from a visual perspective, the aluminum, to my poor old eyes anyway,
lacks that special sparkling gleam that made me so glad I own an iPhone.

For the first time in my wireless life, I am so happy I do not have the
latest and greatest.

As is always the case, this is just my opinion so please be kind (Smile).

Making a Joyful Noise,

Mark

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RE: Face TIme over 3G for those who live in the U.S

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Bravo, Scott.

I will file a complaint, as well.

Mark






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face TIme over 3G for those who live in the U.S

Hi all,

Anyone who has ATT without a shared data plan is likely aware they cannot
use Face TIme over the 3G network. Although I do not believe I would use
Face TIme for general conversation, I believe there are cases where it may
be valuable. Obviously there are services such as Skype which apparently
ATT does not block. Now with that said I decided to file a complaint with
the FCC which is the regulatory agency for all things related to
communications such as wireless etc. in the United States. I decided to file
the complaint because there is no technical reason for ATT to block Face
TIme over the 3G network and especially if they do not block Skype.
My understanding is that Verizon Wireless does not block Face Time and mor
does Sprint. I believe that ATT has taken this position for one of two
reasons and one of which is surely monetary. So, why do I bring this up?
Because I wanted to let anyone who has considered filing a complaint that
ATT will respond. The best part is I have received an initial verbal
response which is exactly what I expected. THe conversation can be best
summed up as to bad. There was absolutely no point in having a
conversation with ATT because despite the fact I pointed out the obvious
fact they do not block Skype or any other VOIP service or placed any special
restrictions on such services, they have blocked Face Time. I even pointed
out how Face TIme could be useful in some circumstances for an individual
with a visual impairment which  incidentally is a true statement. So, I
anticipate that although ATT has taken this position for now they will
continue to face a great deal of pressure from individuals and groups to
change their position.
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RE: Aluminum versus Glass iPHone, Just a Comment

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Phillip,

You know, I have heard so many people say that they used to drop their glass
finished iPhones.  In fact, the web is replete with such complaints from all
over the world.  

To date, I have yet to drop my glass finished iPhone.  

I am clearly the odd-man out on this issue.  (smile).

Oh well, it's nice to be unique (even bigger smile).

Mark




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of PHILLIP TRACY
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aluminum versus Glass iPHone, Just a Comment

I'm sorry to say, that my opinion is exact and completely opposite yours.
Everything you said about the 4S, I didn't like. I am extremely happy with
the new iPhone 5's design.  I dropped my 4S all the time, and I have yet to
drop the five. I believe it's much lighter and much better design. It is not
flimsy, but very sturdy. I'm sorry you felt differently.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I was in my local A T  T Wireless Store assisting a friend in 
 upgrading her iPhone 4 to an iPHone 4 S.  While we were waiting for a 
 representative, I took the opportunity to explore iPHone 5, again.
 
 You know what?  NO matter how much Apple tries to spin it, the iPHone 
 5 feels like a more cheaply made device than the 4 or the 4 S.
 
 Say what you will but there is something special about that glass 
 finish that is lost with iPHone 5.
 
 Perhaps most people keep their phones in a case so it matters little 
 to them but to me, what put iPHone a cut above the rest has been lost 
 with iPhone 5, in terms of tactile satisfaction.
 
 Also, from a visual perspective, the aluminum, to my poor old eyes 
 anyway, lacks that special sparkling gleam that made me so glad I own an
iPhone.
 
 For the first time in my wireless life, I am so happy I do not have 
 the latest and greatest.
 
 As is always the case, this is just my opinion so please be kind (Smile).
 
 Making a Joyful Noise,
 
 Mark
 
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Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via their
new iPhone 5s.  

I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as heard
from my end.  Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they were not on a
land-line.

Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 is, in my
opinion, a superior product in terms of wireless call quality.

Bravo to Apple on this feature.

Mark 

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RE: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Grant,

Well, that is a good question, my friend.  

I can definitely say A T  T Wireless and Verizon Wireless.  I don't know if
any of them have Sprint.

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the interesting observation. Can you give us an idea of which
carriers the people were using?

Grant

On 10/1/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 Hello Les,

 I can only speak from the perspective of being on the listening end of 
 an iPhone 5 connection as I do not own one.

 I have experienced superior call quality when the iPhone 5 caller is 
 or is not using the iPhone 5 speaker phone.

 By the way, I noticed a vast improvement when iPhone 5 caller uses the 
 new Ear Pods, as well.  This weekend, I went to the Apple store and 
 purchased a pair for my iPhone 4 S.

 Those with whom I have spoken, via my new Ear Pods report a definite 
 increase in both call volume and quality as a result.

 Mark



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

 Mark, I'm curious. How do you find the quality of the call when you 
 are on speaker. I have a for ass and I've had many difficulties using 
 the speakerphone. Thanks.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via 
 their new iPhone 5s.

 I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as 
 heard from my end.  Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they 
 were not on a land-line.

 Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 
 is, in my opinion, a superior product in terms of wireless call quality.

 Bravo to Apple on this feature.

 Mark

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RE: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Lynn,

Assuming that you are not eligible for a full upgrade, I would suggest, that
before investing in iPhone 5, you consider purchasing a pair of the new
Earpods, for approximately 30 USD.  The Earpods have a bigger microphone and
may increase your recording success.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn Schneider
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

Gosh Mark, your message makes me curious to know if the improved volume and
sound quality would apply to recordings made with the iphone 5 as well as
the call quality.  I wonder about this because I tend to be a bit softspoken
and on my 4S, I could never get my recordings to be loud enough, no matter
which recording app I tried.  I too am on the fence about whether or not to
upgrade, but if I could make better recordings with the 5 than I can
currently with the 4S, that might be at least one more selling point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 18:24, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Les,
 
 I can only speak from the perspective of being on the listening end of 
 an iPhone 5 connection as I do not own one.
 
 I have experienced superior call quality when the iPhone 5 caller is 
 or is not using the iPhone 5 speaker phone.
 
 By the way, I noticed a vast improvement when iPhone 5 caller uses the 
 new Ear Pods, as well.  This weekend, I went to the Apple store and 
 purchased a pair for my iPhone 4 S.
 
 Those with whom I have spoken, via my new Ear Pods report a definite 
 increase in both call volume and quality as a result.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality
 
 Mark, I'm curious. How do you find the quality of the call when you 
 are on speaker. I have a for ass and I've had many difficulties using 
 the speakerphone. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via 
 their new iPhone 5s.
 
 I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as 
 heard from my end.  Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they 
 were not on a land-line.
 
 Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 
 is, in my opinion, a superior product in terms of wireless call quality.
 
 Bravo to Apple on this feature.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
You are quite welcome, Les.

I suggest that you invite an iPHone 5 owner to give you a call so you can
judge the call quality for yourself.  

Like beauty is to the eye, call quality is to the ear of the beholder
(smile).

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

Thanks Mark.  I have a 4S and am eligible to upgrade to the 5.  I'm really
on the fence, but if the call quality was that much better, especially using
speaker, that could be the difference maker to spring for it.

Les
On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:24 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Les,
 
 I can only speak from the perspective of being on the listening end of 
 an iPhone 5 connection as I do not own one.
 
 I have experienced superior call quality when the iPhone 5 caller is 
 or is not using the iPhone 5 speaker phone.
 
 By the way, I noticed a vast improvement when iPhone 5 caller uses the 
 new Ear Pods, as well.  This weekend, I went to the Apple store and 
 purchased a pair for my iPhone 4 S.
 
 Those with whom I have spoken, via my new Ear Pods report a definite 
 increase in both call volume and quality as a result.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality
 
 Mark, I'm curious. How do you find the quality of the call when you 
 are on speaker. I have a for ass and I've had many difficulties using 
 the speakerphone. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via 
 their new iPhone 5s.
 
 I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as 
 heard from my end.  Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they 
 were not on a land-line.
 
 Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 
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 Bravo to Apple on this feature.
 
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A Question About The Latest Version of the Messaging App on Both iOS and Mac

2012-10-07 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,  

I am posting this to both lists.

I just updated my Mac, today, to the latest version.  

In the release notes, it states that the latest version of the Messaging App
now allows for people to send messages to your phone number and you will see
them on your Mac.

I Interpret this to mean that, assuming you are using iMessage on your iOS
device and, assuming that you are signed into the same iCloud account on
both your Mac and iOS device, you should see incoming messages sent to your
iOS phone number, on the Mac, in the Messages app, as well as on your phone.


Am I wrong?  

I just received a text message from a fellow iOS iMessage user on my phone
but it did not show up in the Messages app on my Mac.  

Do I need to enable something new in order to get this to work?

All feedback welcomed.

Mark

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Re: A Question About The Latest Version of the Messaging App on Both iOS and Mac

2012-10-08 Thread M. Taylor
Neil,

In which Messages app are you referring? the one on the Mac or the one on the 
phone.

Mark
On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:07 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com 
wrote:
 
 Mark.
 
 In the Messages App preferences you have to check the box for your cell 
 number to receive them on your Mac, I have done this and now when someone 
 SMS's me using my cell number it comes through on my Mac as well.
 On 8 Oct 2012, at 04:17, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I am posting this to both lists.
 
 I just updated my Mac, today, to the latest version.  
 
 In the release notes, it states that the latest version of the Messaging App
 now allows for people to send messages to your phone number and you will see
 them on your Mac.
 
 I Interpret this to mean that, assuming you are using iMessage on your iOS
 device and, assuming that you are signed into the same iCloud account on
 both your Mac and iOS device, you should see incoming messages sent to your
 iOS phone number, on the Mac, in the Messages app, as well as on your phone.
 
 
 Am I wrong?  
 
 I just received a text message from a fellow iOS iMessage user on my phone
 but it did not show up in the Messages app on my Mac.  
 
 Do I need to enable something new in order to get this to work?
 
 All feedback welcomed.
 
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Test Message: Please ignore

2012-10-10 Thread M. Taylor
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